Bradfud
Bradfud
I never liked them when they were League 2 rivals, but fair fucking play to them. 3-1 up in the closing minutes of the League Cup semi-final first leg.
On Sunday April 29, 2012 at 10:25 pm, Darlo Cockney wrote:Sadly some people have nothing better to do that invent rumours.
We will be playing at the arena again next season - fact.
Quakerz - if you actually attended games and spoke to people you might actually find our facts, rather than spreading s*** on this board.
DC
Re: Bradfud
Villa have showed a lack of ambition for the last few years now, selling the likes of Barry, Milner, Downing ect.....not Suprised they got stuffed really.
Re: Bradfud
I don't really like Bradford either and how they are still in that league is beyond me given their playing budgets in recent years.
I developed a lot of hate for Bradford a couple of seasons ago. Decided to travel down to their place for Darlo game and they called it off just as we got into Bradford. There were snow blizzards though I suppose but even so it was a long drive back.
Fair play to them for having Villa's lives
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
I developed a lot of hate for Bradford a couple of seasons ago. Decided to travel down to their place for Darlo game and they called it off just as we got into Bradford. There were snow blizzards though I suppose but even so it was a long drive back.
Fair play to them for having Villa's lives
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
-
- Posts: 360
- Joined: Sun Sep 13, 2009 7:48 pm
- Team Supported: Darlington
Re: Bradfud
Hope they get through, love an underdog!
On another note I've always rated Gary Jones as a player, who was playing for Bradford tonight, from when we came across him in his Rochdale days. Surprised he's never really had a chance at a higher level.
On another note I've always rated Gary Jones as a player, who was playing for Bradford tonight, from when we came across him in his Rochdale days. Surprised he's never really had a chance at a higher level.
Re: Bradfud
There's a bit of a difference between selling promising (or not in Downing's case) England Internationals to bigger clubs, and expecting to lose to a club 3 divisions below.Big Tim wrote:Villa have showed a lack of ambition for the last few years now, selling the likes of Barry, Milner, Downing ect.....not Suprised they got stuffed really.
On Sunday April 29, 2012 at 10:25 pm, Darlo Cockney wrote:Sadly some people have nothing better to do that invent rumours.
We will be playing at the arena again next season - fact.
Quakerz - if you actually attended games and spoke to people you might actually find our facts, rather than spreading s*** on this board.
DC
- Quakers1883
- Posts: 577
- Joined: Sat Jul 25, 2009 3:45 pm
- Team Supported: Quakers
- Location: Darlington
-
- Posts: 12155
- Joined: Sat Jul 25, 2009 3:08 pm
- Team Supported: Darlington
- Location: Darlington
Re: Bradfud
Fair bloody play to them and well done
- MaddosMilkman
- Posts: 465
- Joined: Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:07 pm
- Team Supported: Darlington
Re: Bradfud
Is the "away goal" rule used in that competition?
-
- Posts: 1928
- Joined: Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:55 pm
- Team Supported: Darlington
Re: Bradfud
MaddosMilkman wrote:Is the "away goal" rule used in that competition?
Yes, but only after extra time.
Re: Bradfud
Was impressed with Bradford last night. I hope they make the final-would be a great story.
- Darlo Till I Die
- Posts: 679
- Joined: Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:42 pm
- Team Supported: Darlington
- Location: Darlington
Re: Bradfud
Would be nice for a Chelsea-Bradford final. Simply because Chelsea will already qualify for the champions league, which will mean Bradford will get a Europe spot! Is their ground up to scratch for it though???
Our Football Clubs Are For Life Not Just For Business
- fozzovmurton
- Posts: 1458
- Joined: Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:33 pm
- Team Supported: Darlington
- Location: Murton, Co. Durham
- Contact:
Re: Bradfud
As far as I am aware the League Cup Runners Up do not get offered the Europa League Slot, if Chelsea win the League Cup, it will more than likely go to the next team in the Premiership rather than Bradford, probably 7th in thr Prem.Darlo Till I Die wrote:Would be nice for a Chelsea-Bradford final. Simply because Chelsea will already qualify for the champions league, which will mean Bradford will get a Europe spot! Is their ground up to scratch for it though???
The only competition where runners up may qualify is the FA Cup.
If Bradford were to get in Europe I am sure Valley Parade would meet the criteria to host Euro Matches
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e using Tapatalk 2
Re: Bradfud
This is true, which I was disappointed about - they will just have to beat Chelsea in the final now - well should they get there.fozzovmurton wrote:As far as I am aware the League Cup Runners Up do not get offered the Europa League Slot, if Chelsea win the League Cup, it will more than likely go to the next team in the Premiership rather than Bradford, probably 7th in thr Prem.
Villa have a lot more of a concern with the league I think, if they lose the fixtures before the 2nd leg then they really are in relegation territory, they really don't need league cup games to be worrying about at the moment, will they rest players for the return leg to save them for more important league games?
Best stat ever Bradford City have beaten more Premier League clubs than QPR this season.
I don't dislike Bradford, they are quite an honest, well supported club. Once they sort themselves out they should be a Championship side.
- fozzovmurton
- Posts: 1458
- Joined: Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:33 pm
- Team Supported: Darlington
- Location: Murton, Co. Durham
- Contact:
Re: Bradfud
lo36789 wrote:This is true, which I was disappointed about - they will just have to beat Chelsea in the final now - well should they get there.fozzovmurton wrote:As far as I am aware the League Cup Runners Up do not get offered the Europa League Slot, if Chelsea win the League Cup, it will more than likely go to the next team in the Premiership rather than Bradford, probably 7th in thr Prem.
Villa have a lot more of a concern with the league I think, if they lose the fixtures before the 2nd leg then they really are in relegation territory, they really don't need league cup games to be worrying about at the moment, will they rest players for the return leg to save them for more important league games?
Best stat ever Bradford City have beaten more Premier League clubs than QPR this season.
I don't dislike Bradford, they are quite an honest, well supported club. Once they sort themselves out they should be a Championship side.
As should we when you look at the size of Darlo and the catchment area we serve, sure we had the biggest catchment areas in the FL a few years ago.
If Swansea beat Chelsea and
!qBradford beat Villa, then I would fancy Bradford to lift the cup.
I think Villa will do enough to see off Bradford at Villa Park though, do away goals count in the League Cuoq
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e using Tapatalk 2
Re: Bradfud
You'd fancy Bradford to beat Swansea?fozzovmurton wrote: If Swansea beat Chelsea and
!qBradford beat Villa, then I would fancy Bradford to lift the cup.
I don't.
On Sunday April 29, 2012 at 10:25 pm, Darlo Cockney wrote:Sadly some people have nothing better to do that invent rumours.
We will be playing at the arena again next season - fact.
Quakerz - if you actually attended games and spoke to people you might actually find our facts, rather than spreading s*** on this board.
DC
- fozzovmurton
- Posts: 1458
- Joined: Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:33 pm
- Team Supported: Darlington
- Location: Murton, Co. Durham
- Contact:
Re: Bradfud
Fair Enough good point Spyman, I would give them more chance over Swansea than ChelseaSpyman wrote:You'd fancy Bradford to beat Swansea?fozzovmurton wrote: If Swansea beat Chelsea and
!qBradford beat Villa, then I would fancy Bradford to lift the cup.
I don't.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e using Tapatalk 2
-
- Posts: 1928
- Joined: Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:55 pm
- Team Supported: Darlington
Re: Bradfud
Bradford City might not get into Europe even if they do win the League Cup Final.
Likewise, Swansea City will probably not get into Europe either.
Likewise, Swansea City will probably not get into Europe either.
- DarloOnTheUp
- Posts: 6346
- Joined: Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:35 am
- Team Supported: Darlington
Re: Bradfud
Well yeah, Chelsea have got better players on paper, but you said that you "fancy Bradford to lift the cup" if they faced Swansea, which is a ridiculous comment.fozzovmurton wrote:Fair Enough good point Spyman, I would give them more chance over Swansea than ChelseaSpyman wrote:You'd fancy Bradford to beat Swansea?fozzovmurton wrote: If Swansea beat Chelsea and
!qBradford beat Villa, then I would fancy Bradford to lift the cup.
I don't.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e using Tapatalk 2
Re: Bradfud
Why would Swansea not get in to Europe if they won the League Cup? Because they're not English?Fibonacci0112358 wrote:Bradford City might not get into Europe even if they do win the League Cup Final.
Likewise, Swansea City will probably not get into Europe either.
I'd fancy Swansea to fare pretty well if they did get in to the Liverpool Trophy.
On Sunday April 29, 2012 at 10:25 pm, Darlo Cockney wrote:Sadly some people have nothing better to do that invent rumours.
We will be playing at the arena again next season - fact.
Quakerz - if you actually attended games and spoke to people you might actually find our facts, rather than spreading s*** on this board.
DC
-
- Posts: 1928
- Joined: Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:55 pm
- Team Supported: Darlington
Re: Bradfud
Spyman wrote:Why would Swansea not get in to Europe if they won the League Cup? Because they're not English?Fibonacci0112358 wrote:Bradford City might not get into Europe even if they do win the League Cup Final.
Likewise, Swansea City will probably not get into Europe either.
I'd fancy Swansea to fare pretty well if they did get in to the Liverpool Trophy.
Correct. Swansea City can never play in Europe under the current set-up.
Re: Bradfud
So similarly if they finished in a Champions League / Europa League spot they wouldn't get in? What's the point then?Fibonacci0112358 wrote:Spyman wrote:Why would Swansea not get in to Europe if they won the League Cup? Because they're not English?Fibonacci0112358 wrote:Bradford City might not get into Europe even if they do win the League Cup Final.
Likewise, Swansea City will probably not get into Europe either.
I'd fancy Swansea to fare pretty well if they did get in to the Liverpool Trophy.
Correct. Swansea City can never play in Europe under the current set-up.
- fozzovmurton
- Posts: 1458
- Joined: Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:33 pm
- Team Supported: Darlington
- Location: Murton, Co. Durham
- Contact:
Re: Bradfud
Ok, that is a good point, maybes I have not fully thought through what I am saying, I would love to see Bradford lift the cup thoughDarloOnTheUp wrote:Well yeah, Chelsea have got better players on paper, but you said that you "fancy Bradford to lift the cup" if they faced Swansea, which is a ridiculous comment.fozzovmurton wrote:Fair Enough good point Spyman, I would give them more chance over Swansea than ChelseaSpyman wrote:You'd fancy Bradford to beat Swansea?fozzovmurton wrote: If Swansea beat Chelsea and
!qBradford beat Villa, then I would fancy Bradford to lift the cup.
I don't.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e using Tapatalk 2
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e using Tapatalk 2
- fozzovmurton
- Posts: 1458
- Joined: Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:33 pm
- Team Supported: Darlington
- Location: Murton, Co. Durham
- Contact:
Re: Bradfud
Why not, weren't Cardiff told last year UEFA would bend over backwards to get them into Europe if they beat Liverpool last year.Fibonacci0112358 wrote:Spyman wrote:Why would Swansea not get in to Europe if they won the League Cup? Because they're not English?Fibonacci0112358 wrote:Bradford City might not get into Europe even if they do win the League Cup Final.
Likewise, Swansea City will probably not get into Europe either.
I'd fancy Swansea to fare pretty well if they did get in to the Liverpool Trophy.
Correct. Swansea City can never play in Europe under the current set-up.
And why wouldn't Bradford be allowed to Enter if they won
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e using Tapatalk 2
Re: Bradfud
You're wrong.Fibonacci0112358 wrote:Spyman wrote:Why would Swansea not get in to Europe if they won the League Cup? Because they're not English?Fibonacci0112358 wrote:Bradford City might not get into Europe even if they do win the League Cup Final.
Likewise, Swansea City will probably not get into Europe either.
I'd fancy Swansea to fare pretty well if they did get in to the Liverpool Trophy.
Correct. Swansea City can never play in Europe under the current set-up.
Swansea and Cardiff were told last year by UEFA that they could not qualify for Europe by entering the Welsh Cup. They could only qualify for Europe through the English League, or the 2 major English domestic cup competitions, because they played in the English league.
On Sunday April 29, 2012 at 10:25 pm, Darlo Cockney wrote:Sadly some people have nothing better to do that invent rumours.
We will be playing at the arena again next season - fact.
Quakerz - if you actually attended games and spoke to people you might actually find our facts, rather than spreading s*** on this board.
DC
-
- Posts: 1928
- Joined: Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:55 pm
- Team Supported: Darlington
Re: Bradfud
Hilly wrote:So similarly if they finished in a Champions League / Europa League spot they wouldn't get in? What's the point then?Fibonacci0112358 wrote:Spyman wrote:Why would Swansea not get in to Europe if they won the League Cup? Because they're not English?Fibonacci0112358 wrote:Bradford City might not get into Europe even if they do win the League Cup Final.
Likewise, Swansea City will probably not get into Europe either.
I'd fancy Swansea to fare pretty well if they did get in to the Liverpool Trophy.
Correct. Swansea City can never play in Europe under the current set-up.
They were fully aware of the rules and their consequences when The Welsh Premier League was formed.
They, along with Cardiff City and Wrexham etc, all decided to remain with The FA.
Off course, The FA may move the goalposts. Because they have done in the past you know!
-
- Posts: 1928
- Joined: Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:55 pm
- Team Supported: Darlington
Re: Bradfud
Spyman wrote:You're wrong.Fibonacci0112358 wrote:Spyman wrote:Why would Swansea not get in to Europe if they won the League Cup? Because they're not English?Fibonacci0112358 wrote:Bradford City might not get into Europe even if they do win the League Cup Final.
Likewise, Swansea City will probably not get into Europe either.
I'd fancy Swansea to fare pretty well if they did get in to the Liverpool Trophy.
Correct. Swansea City can never play in Europe under the current set-up.
Swansea and Cardiff were told last year by UEFA that they could not qualify for Europe by entering the Welsh Cup. They could only qualify for Europe through the English League, or the 2 major English domestic cup competitions, because they played in the English league.
Yes, that is UEFA's stance.
But all European entrants have to be nominated by The FA.
And they have said on numerous occasions, that they will not nominate a welsh team to represent England in Europe!
Similar for Bradford City, they will not nominate a League 2 team either!
- fozzovmurton
- Posts: 1458
- Joined: Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:33 pm
- Team Supported: Darlington
- Location: Murton, Co. Durham
- Contact:
Re: Bradfud
Although they play in the English Leagues, do Cardiff, Swansea, Wrexham etc come under the jurisdiction of the FAW???Fibonacci0112358 wrote:Hilly wrote:So similarly if they finished in a Champions League / Europa League spot they wouldn't get in? What's the point then?Fibonacci0112358 wrote:Spyman wrote:Why would Swansea not get in to Europe if they won the League Cup? Because they're not English?Fibonacci0112358 wrote:Bradford City might not get into Europe even if they do win the League Cup Final.
Likewise, Swansea City will probably not get into Europe either.
I'd fancy Swansea to fare pretty well if they did get in to the Liverpool Trophy.
Correct. Swansea City can never play in Europe under the current set-up.
They were fully aware of the rules and their consequences when The Welsh Premier League was formed.
They, along with Cardiff City and Wrexham etc, all decided to remain with The FA.
Off course, The FA may move the goalposts. Because they have done in the past you know!
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e using Tapatalk 2
-
- Posts: 1928
- Joined: Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:55 pm
- Team Supported: Darlington
Re: Bradfud
This from The FA. Although it refers to The FA Cup, I think the point is clear!
Part of the problem is – shock – the English FA’s inflexibility. Here’s what an FA representative had to say.
Our position remains unchanged and should a welsh win the FA Cup this season they would not be chosen as the FA’s nomination for European competition.
Welsh teams enter into English domestic competitions on this understanding and they are fully aware of the rules and regulations under which they take part.
These rules remain the same and there would be no scope for any of the Welsh clubs in the English system, to qualify for Europe as England’s representative.
Part of the problem is – shock – the English FA’s inflexibility. Here’s what an FA representative had to say.
Our position remains unchanged and should a welsh win the FA Cup this season they would not be chosen as the FA’s nomination for European competition.
Welsh teams enter into English domestic competitions on this understanding and they are fully aware of the rules and regulations under which they take part.
These rules remain the same and there would be no scope for any of the Welsh clubs in the English system, to qualify for Europe as England’s representative.
- fozzovmurton
- Posts: 1458
- Joined: Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:33 pm
- Team Supported: Darlington
- Location: Murton, Co. Durham
- Contact:
Re: Bradfud
But hasn't Cardiff been told on more than one occasion if they win an English Cup, UEFA would find a place for them.
If the FA are that unwilling to let Welsh teams represent England in Europe, then why let them play in the League in the first place
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e using Tapatalk 2
If the FA are that unwilling to let Welsh teams represent England in Europe, then why let them play in the League in the first place
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e using Tapatalk 2
-
- Posts: 1928
- Joined: Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:55 pm
- Team Supported: Darlington
Re: Bradfud
fozzovmurton wrote:But hasn't Cardiff been told on more than one occasion if they win an English Cup, UEFA would find a place for them.
If the FA are that unwilling to let Welsh teams represent England in Europe, then why let them play in the League in the first place
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e using Tapatalk 2
Yes UEFA have said things similar to this. This is why I believe that The FA are on a collision course with UEFA!
The decision to play in an English league competition was Swansea's and Cardiff's.
And they made this decision fully aware of the consequences. So basically. they have no argument.