Brazil v England

[fozzovmurton]

Just seen on BBC News 24 Brazil v England has been cancelled due to saftey issues, although the CBF are trying to get it on.

Not looking good for the Confederations Cup or World Cup next year

[Bogratsteve]

That would be great if you have just landed in Rio and shelved out for flights, tickets, hotels etc

Mind you a few days on the beach would make up for it

[fozzovmurton]

That would be great if you have just landed in Rio and shelved out for flights, tickets, hotels etc

Mind you a few days on the beach would make up for it

A few days on the drink on the Copacabana would not be too bad

Marxista Fozz

[Jazz Maverick]

I've been to Rio and confirm there are worse places to kill a few days!

In fact, the England game being cancelled is surely a bonus

[fozzovmurton]

I've been to Rio and confirm there are worse places to kill a few days!

In fact, the England game being cancelled is surely a bonus

I would love to goto Rio one day, heard the women are easy on the eyes and the Copacabana is a good area to kill time with a few beers

Marxista Fozz

[Jazz Maverick]

I've been to Rio and confirm there are worse places to kill a few days!

In fact, the England game being cancelled is surely a bonus

I would love to goto Rio one day, heard the women are easy on the eyes and the Copacabana is a good area to kill time with a few beers

Marxista Fozz

Both copacabana and ipanema are exactly how you'd imagine.

I was only there a few days (came up from São Paulo to watch a game with some Palmeiras supporting friends I was staying with - almost got killed by ultras the evening after the game but that's another story!) and although Rio is an amazing place, the people seemed more up their own arse and less cool than those from São Paulo.

[Ash_Quaker]

I've been to Rio and confirm there are worse places to kill a few days!

In fact, the England game being cancelled is surely a bonus

I would love to goto Rio one day, heard the women are easy on the eyes and the Copacabana is a good area to kill time with a few beers

Marxista Fozz

Both copacabana and ipanema are exactly how you'd imagine.

I was only there a few days (came up from São Paulo to watch a game with some Palmeiras supporting friends I was staying with - almost got killed by ultras the evening after the game but that's another story!) and although Rio is an amazing place, the people seemed more up their own arse and less cool than those from São Paulo.

Top class review Jazz, expect to see that quote in a Thomas Cook brochure soon!

[fozzovmurton]

Looks like game is now back on

[davidcorks 40yard OG]

Game on

Not that it matters as I cant see anything but a hammering coming

Brazil 4 England 0 my prediction

[fozzovmurton]

Game on

Not that it matters as I cant see anything but a hammering coming

Brazil 4 England 0 my prediction

After the Ireland game, I can also see a hammering coming, that team is so much of a waste of space, I am confident enough we will get beat that I got a bet on with a mate, I gave him England...and the Draw

Marxista Fozz

[Spyman]

Brazil aren't the force they once were, and England are not the farce people are making out.

They'll flatter to deceive with lots of tricks and flicks, we'll be dull and dogged. I expect a Brazil win, but I don't think they'll steam-roller us.

[loan_star]

I reckon we will win and all the fuss over the Ireland game will be forgotten about and we will be classed as potential world cup winners again, such is the fickleness of the press and fan base when it comes to the national team!

[Jazz Maverick]

Brazil aren't the force they once were, and England are not the farce people are making out.

They'll flatter to deceive with lots of tricks and flicks, we'll be dull and dogged. I expect a Brazil win, but I don't think they'll steam-roller us.

Pretty much agree with this.

Brazil have swung between competent and shite over the last couple of years, I think either side could get a result although agree it would be more likely to be Brazil.

My money is on a dog-shit 1-1 draw.

[MaddosMilkman]

Brazil are basically a more skillful version of our very own "Golden Generation".

A side pretty much packed with world class players who for some reason can't seem to gel as a team. Having said that, it wouldn't surprise me if they smashed everyone out of sight at the World Cup next year.

[cameron-darlo]

After our performance against Ireland, i can he us getting a tanking. Yes Brazil aren't what they used to be, but we're just fucking shite.

[Spyman]

After our performance against Ireland, i can he us getting a tanking. Yes Brazil aren't what they used to be, but we're just fucking shite.

No, we're not.

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[cameron-darlo]

After our performance against Ireland, i can he us getting a tanking. Yes Brazil aren't what they used to be, but we're just fucking shite.

No, we're not.

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Yes, we are

[Spyman]

1 defeat in 16 says otherwise, including draws with Italy and France.

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[cameron-darlo]

1 defeat in 16 says otherwise, including draws with Italy and France.

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And also wins over teams like San Marino & moldova, not exactly accurate mate. maybe 'shite' was a little bit harsh, but we're not great. we have good individual players but we've never been able to play as a team. we've been disjointed for years and watching England feels like a chore rather than a pleasure

[fozzovmurton]

1 defeat in 16 says otherwise, including draws with Italy and France.

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And also wins over teams like San Marino & moldova, not exactly accurate mate. maybe 'shite' was a little bit harsh, but we're not great. we have good individual players but we've never been able to play as a team. we've been disjointed for years and watching England feels like a chore rather than a pleasure

Sounds like Holland in the early/mid 90's, cracking players, should have won things, but could never seemingly gel, a case of 11 players playing for themseves instead of each other

Marxista Fozz

[Spyman]

1 defeat in 16 says otherwise, including draws with Italy and France.

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And also wins over teams like San Marino & moldova, not exactly accurate mate. maybe 'shite' was a little bit harsh, but we're not great. we have good individual players but we've never been able to play as a team. we've been disjointed for years and watching England feels like a chore rather than a pleasure

Nobody said England are great. We are solid, hard to beat, but lacking in attacking threat. Certainly not shite, as you say, we beat teams like Moldova and San Marino with ease.

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[DTID]

1 defeat in 16 says otherwise, including draws with Italy and France.

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And also wins over teams like San Marino & moldova, not exactly accurate mate. maybe 'shite' was a little bit harsh, but we're not great. we have good individual players but we've never been able to play as a team. we've been disjointed for years and watching England feels like a chore rather than a pleasure

Nobody said England are great. We are solid, hard to beat, but lacking in attacking threat. Certainly not shite, as you say, we beat teams like Moldova and San Marino with ease.

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The problem we've had for years is having managers who start players on their reputation rather than form players. For example, why are the likes of Lambert and Le Fondre being called up? They play for below par Premier League sides and score regularly. I just don't understand why they are never given a chance in friendlies.

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[DarloOnTheUp]

The problem we've had for years is having managers who start players on their reputation rather than form players. For example, why are the likes of Lambert and Le Fondre being called up? They play for below par Premier League sides and score regularly. I just don't understand why they are never given a chance in friendlies.

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Fucking Adam Le Fondre?

Have you ever wondered why these players are playing for below par Premiership sides in the first place, and why the likes of Rooney et al are playing for the top Premiership sides?

These players are generally not called up because they aren't as good as the ones who are, which happens to be the same reason why said players are still stuck at second-rate Premiership sides.

I agree that it can't harm to give the likes of Lambert a chance, since he is in-form, but he isn't the fucking saviour. And he's certainly not a better footballer than Defoe, Sturridge, Rooney, or Welbeck.

[Spyman]

The problem we've had for years is having managers who start players on their reputation rather than form players. For example, why are the likes of Lambert and Le Fondre being called up? They play for below par Premier League sides and score regularly. I just don't understand why they are never given a chance in friendlies.

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Fucking Adam Le Fondre?

Have you ever wondered why these players are playing for below par Premiership sides in the first place, and why the likes of Rooney et al are playing for the top Premiership sides?

These players are generally not called up because they aren't as good as the ones who are, which happens to be the same reason why said players are still stuck at second-rate Premiership sides.

I agree that it can't harm to give the likes of Lambert a chance, since he is in-form, but he isn't the fucking saviour. And he's certainly not a better footballer than Defoe, Sturridge, Rooney, or Welbeck.

Exactly. I constantly read comments from people having a pop at the likes of Wellbeck, Cleverley, Milner etc, suggesting that because Lambert or Holt have scored more goals they must be better players.

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[Stan_Darlo]

I actually think England are decent value at 11/2 tonight, two pretty average sides and we beat them only a few months back, Brazil slight favorites but 11/2 is very generous imo.

[Spyman]

I actually think England are decent value at 11/2 tonight, two pretty average sides and we beat them only a few months back, Brazil slight favorites but 11/2 is very generous imo.

That does seem decent value actually.

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[fozzovmurton]

Just watching the game now...

When it comes to the National Anthems, I thought it was traditional to play the visitors anthem before the hosts

Marxista Fozz

[cameron-darlo]

Harts having a blinder!

[DarloOnTheUp]

Another typical ultra negative Hodgson performance.

[Jazz Maverick]

Another typical DOTU post.