I'm not cherry picking the best forwards, that (if you include Rooney) covers a history of forwards, and it’s a fair comparison, picking the best of what we had to the best of what we have. Why is it ill thought out? Your throwing in other parameters such as potential. Potential is not for tournaments. We have qualified and should be going to win not blood endless youngsters for the future, that’s what your development ages are for.Darlogramps wrote: Or you get ill-thought out nonsense like this:
If you're going to compare, you can't cherry-pick the best England strikers from the past 20 years and compare them against a smaller group of individuals, particularly when the current crop are young players, yet to realise their full potential and with fewer international matches under their belts.BaronsCourtQuaker wrote: Forwards again the consensus seems to be that we are blessed up front. I tend to disagree, again all decent forwards but are they really in the bracket of Owen, Shearer, Wright, Fowler, Sheringham, Ferdinand who never brought anything home.
When BCQ picks Owen, Shearer etc, he's thinking of them in their pomp, at their best. Kane, Sturridge, Vardy and Rashford have played in one major tournament between them. Their best days are still to come. (Yes I must also include Rooney, and he has generally been underwhelming at major tournaments, although he is a our record goalscorer so clearly has something about him).
To compare the two groups of players is ludicrous and unfair because it's not a balanced comparison.
If I'm not mistaken I said I'm looking forward to the competition and we have decent forwards whilst the sum may well equal more of the parts, all positive. Likewise you can't say that we haven't on paper (cue played on grasss...) had better squads in the past.
Similar to Spyman I’d like to see us set up as below, think Drinkwater just brings a little more cover the defence where both Clyne and Rose will help provide the width.
Vardy / Sterling (if he finds any form)
Which is also what I said in my state of negativity and ill-though out nonsense?Darlogramps wrote: Anything beyond the quarters would be above expectation.