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Re: can any one confirm spennys application for promotion?

Post by jarramel » Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:33 pm

northernlad73 wrote:Spenny are in year 4 of a 5 year plan
Thanx. Seems unlikely they will apply until the fifth
year is upon them methinks.

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Re: can any one confirm spennys application for promotion?

Post by bertbanger » Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:53 pm

wot we'll probably find is Spenny will officially say they are going for promotion even if their not, just so to keep their players motivated and the season alive, no-one wants to think their playing effectively for the title for no reason

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Re: can any one confirm spennys application for promotion?

Post by quakersam » Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:23 pm

They'd be no point as we'll soon find out when the FA release the list of the clubs who've applied
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Re: can any one confirm spennys application for promotion?

Post by Quakerz » Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:19 am

bertbanger wrote:wot we'll probably find is Spenny will officially say they are going for promotion even if their not, just so to keep their players motivated and the season alive, no-one wants to think their playing effectively for the title for no reason
Surely Spenny would have been playing for the title for no reason for the last three years if we apply your logic? Surely playing to be champions is motivation enough and reason enough? Four in a row, that's good enough motivation if you're not taking promotion.

I actually think they will go for promotion this season anyway, because Celtic Nation and Bedlington will attempt to buy the league next year - this is the year to get out. We need to get out.
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Re: can any one confirm spennys application for promotion?

Post by AIDO » Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:16 am

All three clubs you mention have actually tried to buy the league this year .....

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Re: can any one confirm spennys application for promotion?

Post by northernlad73 » Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:55 am

Does that include yourselves?
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Re: can any one confirm spennys application for promotion?

Post by Christophano » Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:59 am

northernlad73 wrote:Does that include yourselves?
I would class our budget as competitive. We've got the attendances to support it, of course.

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Re: can any one confirm spennys application for promotion?

Post by northernlad73 » Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:03 am

And if the other teams have got "an income" from somewhere without the club going into debt then they can support it also.
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Re: can any one confirm spennys application for promotion?

Post by northernlad73 » Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:04 am

What do you think your budget is?
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Post by MikeinBlack » Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:14 am

northernlad73 wrote:And if the other teams have got "an income" from somewhere without the club going into debt then they can support it also.
Our infamous Chairman assured us we were debt free, we believed we were debt free, but lo and behold we suddenly found we weren't debt free after all.....and where are we now?

No club is truly debt free if they rely on a rich benefactor as any monies invested in the club could turn out to be a loan and not a gift at the whim of the said benefactor, who then becomes a creditor to be paid back.
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Re: can any one confirm spennys application for promotion?

Post by northernlad73 » Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:28 am

Was your Chairman doing it for a love of football and the community or because he wanted to make money?
I don't think the Northern League is the place for any business man who thinks he will get rich.
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Post by Bogratsteve » Sat Nov 10, 2012 10:06 am

northernlad73 wrote:Was your Chairman doing it for a love of football and the community or because he wanted to make money?
I don't think the Northern League is the place for any business man who thinks he will get rich.
I would imagine being a Chairman of a NL team will be take on for one of the following reasons

1. Deep seated love of the club
2. Massage the Ego
3. Tax fiddle
4. Glory hunter i.e FA Vase, winning the league
5. Loss of marbles

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Post by Quakerz » Sat Nov 10, 2012 10:29 am

northernlad73 wrote:What do you think your budget is?
£2,800 per week.
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Re: can any one confirm spennys application for promotion?

Post by northernlad73 » Sat Nov 10, 2012 10:34 am

Quakerz wrote:
northernlad73 wrote:What do you think your budget is?
£2,800 per week.
Not a chance Quakerz unless that's the manager and back room staff only.
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Post by Jazz Maverick » Sat Nov 10, 2012 10:40 am

northernlad73 wrote:
Quakerz wrote:
northernlad73 wrote:What do you think your budget is?
£2,800 per week.
Not a chance Quakerz unless that's the manager and back room staff only.
You going to show us the figures to prove otherwise?

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Post by Bogratsteve » Sat Nov 10, 2012 10:40 am

northernlad73 wrote:
Quakerz wrote:
northernlad73 wrote:What do you think your budget is?
£2,800 per week.
Not a chance Quakerz unless that's the manager and back room staff only.
Bear in mind the majority of the coaching staff work for MG's academy and will be paid through that, the Darlo setup i would imagine is purely an extension of that academy in effect, the Physio is a volunteer I think and the stewards and board members are so players are the main wage bill.

But that is all guess work

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Post by Darlofan97 » Sat Nov 10, 2012 10:53 am

northernlad73 wrote:
Quakerz wrote:
northernlad73 wrote:What do you think your budget is?
£2,800 per week.
Not a chance Quakerz unless that's the manager and back room staff only.
Players and management team combined matey.

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Re: can any one confirm spennys application for promotion?

Post by northernlad73 » Sat Nov 10, 2012 10:58 am

Jazz Maverick wrote:
northernlad73 wrote:
Quakerz wrote:
northernlad73 wrote:What do you think your budget is?
£2,800 per week.
Not a chance Quakerz unless that's the manager and back room staff only.
You going to show us the figures to prove otherwise?
Not at all, just asking as I'd heard something last night from someone who know MG.
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Post by Quakerz » Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:48 am

There's all sorts of rumours going around about what we are allegedly spending - I've been told 5k, 7k, 7.5k off other people who truly believe their sources - bottom line is there is just no way we can afford those figures.

The 2.8k figure I was told was from a very well respected (I know, I know!) NLZ member who knows the managers and inside gen - to lend extra credibility to his figures, he also told me Spenny were spending about 4.5k a week, NOT the 6K that was going around. Funnily enough the report the other day had one club spending 180k a year (40 weeks x 4.5k)...

By the way, our budget of 2.8k would blow everyone out of the water, if it was not for several bankrolled clubs.

People are starting to make up all sorts of fantastic Darlo budget figures because we have big crowds and are doing so well - they cannot accept that we don't have the best budget. I'll tell you now that we have non contract players on 60-80 quid a week.
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Re: can any one confirm spennys application for promotion?

Post by northernlad73 » Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:58 am

I was told that the wages were between £100-£200 and that MG was on 35k a year. I'm not saying I believe it before anyone starts to get in their high horse.
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Post by Quakerz » Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:04 pm

northernlad73 wrote:I was told that the wages were between £100-£200 and that MG was on 35k a year. I'm not saying I believe it before anyone starts to get in their high horse.
No way is MG on 35k a year, this is a part time job that runs around his business.

And 20 regular players on 100-200 a week (150 average) = 3 grand, and bear in mind you only pay the matchday 16 plus any contracted players not in the 16, so it might be 16-18 x 150 average in any given week, just backs up what figure I gave.
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Post by northernlad73 » Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:06 pm

Yeah backs up your playing staff. Do your coaches and scouts work of free?
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Post by Quakerz » Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:08 pm

northernlad73 wrote:Yeah backs up your playing staff. Do your coaches and scouts work of free?
No but I can't see why they'd be on mega money either, it's part time.
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Post by Bogratsteve » Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:33 pm

Also bear in mind the staff are mainly ex Darlo players who love the club and are all passionate about the club, for many it gave them a good start or a long term full time job, there will be a long term plan in place here for when we go full time in a few years and it also gives the old CV a major boost

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Post by northernlad73 » Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:37 pm

Bogratsteve wrote:Also bear in mind the staff are mainly ex Darlo players who love the club and are all passionate about the club, for many it gave them a good start or a long term full time job, there will be a long term plan in place here for when we go full time in a few years and it also gives the old CV a major boost
So are you saying that these people will be doing it for free being ex Darlo, love of the club etc as that what it reads like.
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Post by Quakerz » Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:44 pm

Nobody is saying they will be doing it for free, they will be on decent part time NL money.

Which clubs pay their staff considerably more than their main players? Bear in mind you've told me you heard our players are on 100-200 a week - in that case I'd expect the coaches to be earning similar amounts - and that would be decent part time NL money.
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Post by Bogratsteve » Sat Nov 10, 2012 3:23 pm

no not free but probs less than if the coaches did not work for MG academy and also were ex Darlo players, these guys will want to stick around and a lot of bigger clubs will be watching with interest.

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Re: can any one confirm spennys application for promotion?

Post by NonBrainZone » Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:47 pm

Everyone knows that the Darlo budget is £18,000 a week, and that's just for the ball boys and the lass that does the match day announcements. I heard that Gray (from an impeccable source) is on a SEVEN FIGURE bonus for finishing top 6 - which to be honest he'll struggle to achieve. It's all the talk in the Shildon club house and their directors know everything about the Darlo finances and would not resort to making stuff up.

You really are a despicable club, throwing that sort of cash around, when all of your opposition players play for free. Just who do you think you are?
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Post by Tori_Gill » Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:55 pm

northernlad73 wrote:I was told that the wages were between £100-£200 and that MG was on 35k a year. I'm not saying I believe it before anyone starts to get in their high horse.
Whoever told you were soooo wrong!

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Post by NonBrainZone » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:25 pm

As Tori said, wrong!

Gray would not get out of bed for 35k an hour never mind a year, and is on a seven figure bonus!
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