The future

Open now for discussion of all things Darlo!

Moderators: mikkyx, uncovered

sada8022
Posts: 195
Joined: Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:17 am
Team Supported: Darlington

The future

Post by sada8022 » Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:05 pm

I wait to be shot down but, how are we going to relocate to darlington and build a stadium. I think we are living in a dream world as were is the massive influx of money going to come from under the CIC scheme.
We may have 3 sites in mind but i bet they are not free, if we are going to move up the leauges as quick as they want we will need millions quickly and i cant see were this will come from.
You can all shoot me down now but if you do please let me know where the millions are comming from to buy land and build a stadium suitable for Confrence prem.

User avatar
Darlo.For.Life
Posts: 1667
Joined: Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:57 pm
Team Supported: Darlington
Location: Newcastle

Re: The future

Post by Darlo.For.Life » Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:11 pm

A possible scenario may be that the council step in and create a sports hub which will allow us to return to Darlington at a much lower cost.

User avatar
MKDarlo
Posts: 1059
Joined: Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:39 pm
Team Supported: Darlington

Re: The future

Post by MKDarlo » Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:12 pm

I think we might have kind have figured this point out

sada8022
Posts: 195
Joined: Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:17 am
Team Supported: Darlington

Re: The future

Post by sada8022 » Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:17 pm

Darlo.For.Life wrote:A possible scenario may be that the council step in and create a sports hub which will allow us to return to Darlington at a much lower cost.


The council have just announced massive cuts

princes town
Posts: 4127
Joined: Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:14 pm
Team Supported: Darlington/Blackburn

Re: The future

Post by princes town » Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:20 pm

sada8022 wrote:
Darlo.For.Life wrote:A possible scenario may be that the council step in and create a sports hub which will allow us to return to Darlington at a much lower cost.


The council have just announced massive cuts

True but the council do have different pots of money. However, I suspect their prioritie may be more targeted towards finding accommodation for Mowden Hall staff and projects like that where there is a clear jobs dividend.

sada8022
Posts: 195
Joined: Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:17 am
Team Supported: Darlington

Re: The future

Post by sada8022 » Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:23 pm

I think a lot of people dont live in the real world.it will cost millions.

User avatar
Ash_Quaker
Posts: 975
Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:09 pm
Team Supported: Darlington
Location: Thirsk/Southampton

Re: The future

Post by Ash_Quaker » Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:26 pm

Huge grants available, especially with us being a community club.

sada8022
Posts: 195
Joined: Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:17 am
Team Supported: Darlington

Re: The future

Post by sada8022 » Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:29 pm

What huge grants, can someone please explain what huge grants are available that are worth millions. we may be community owned but you wont get grants when you are employing proffesional footballers on big wages which you will need in the confrence prem

User avatar
Ash_Quaker
Posts: 975
Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:09 pm
Team Supported: Darlington
Location: Thirsk/Southampton

Re: The future

Post by Ash_Quaker » Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:37 pm

sada8022 wrote:What huge grants, can someone please explain what huge grants are available that are worth millions. we may be community owned but you wont get grants when you are employing proffesional footballers on big wages which you will need in the confrence prem
Well Lincoln received grants not so long ago...

User avatar
Darlo.For.Life
Posts: 1667
Joined: Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:57 pm
Team Supported: Darlington
Location: Newcastle

Re: The future

Post by Darlo.For.Life » Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:45 pm

FC United of Manchester funding plan:

The development fund target was originally £500,000 with fans having raised £446,000 at the time of the planning decision – but £250,000 of this had been spent on that planning procedure.

The overall cost of the Moston scheme is higher than originally planned at Ten Acres Lane and the development fund target is now £600,000.

A community share scheme target is now also £100,000 higher at £1.6m – with £1.3m raised before the scheme was put on hold following the uncertainty of the original proposal.

The club had applied for grants in the region of £1.5m, with £650,000 originally agreed by the City Council, plus a further £850,000 coming from the Football Foundation, Sport England & other grant bodies.

The current funding package is in place to raise the £4.5m required:
- £1,600,000 FC United Community Shares scheme (target reached on 16 March 2012)
- £300,000 Development Fund (£486,000 raised, but £250,000+ spent on fees – a further £114,000 to raise)
- £550,000 Manchester City Council (approved January 2012)
- £750,000 Sport England (Iconic facilities fund, stage one approval given. Funding approved in principle December 2011)
- £150,000 Football Foundation Stadia Improvement Fund (Decision March 2012)
- £500,000 Football Foundation Community Facilities Fund (Decision March 2012)
- £300,000 Other grants and confidential identified funder (decision expected November 2011)
- up to £500,000 Manchester City Council loan (approved January 2012 to bridge any funding gap if required)

Image

User avatar
davidcorks 40yard OG
Posts: 1119
Joined: Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:44 pm
Team Supported: Darlington

Re: The future

Post by davidcorks 40yard OG » Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:50 pm

sada8022 wrote:I wait to be shot down but, how are we going to relocate to darlington and build a stadium. I think we are living in a dream world as were is the massive influx of money going to come from under the CIC scheme.
We may have 3 sites in mind but i bet they are not free, if we are going to move up the leauges as quick as they want we will need millions quickly and i cant see were this will come from.
You can all shoot me down now but if you do please let me know where the millions are comming from to buy land and build a stadium suitable for Confrence prem.
sada8022 wrote:What huge grants, can someone please explain what huge grants are available that are worth millions. we may be community owned but you wont get grants when you are employing proffesional footballers on big wages which you will need in the confrence prem

Yet another Arena Bummer/worshipper surfaces
:roll:
Image

Fatty eats roadkill
Posts: 3664
Joined: Thu May 12, 2011 7:31 pm
Team Supported: Darlington
Location: On top of a 29 year old big chested woman

Re: The future

Post by Fatty eats roadkill » Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:18 pm

I've heard we have been buying a thousand scratch cards each week and been banking the profits!

Fucking chill out sadda!
Waiting for Raj to shaft them!

andi_darlo
Posts: 164
Joined: Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:38 am
Team Supported: Darlington

Re: The future

Post by andi_darlo » Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:24 pm

Maybe Martin's business is going really well, and he has decided if he can have 20 outdoor training pitches and half the money they will generate he will stump up the cash !

:lol:

Bogratsteve
Posts: 4025
Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:57 am
Team Supported: Darlington

Re: The future

Post by Bogratsteve » Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:25 pm

andi_darlo wrote:Maybe Martin's business is going really well, and he has decided if he can have 20 outdoor training pitches and half the money they will generate he will stump up the cash !

:lol:
He had 3 or 4 vans there last night................

User avatar
Spyman
Posts: 12693
Joined: Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:04 pm
Team Supported: Darlington

Re: The future

Post by Spyman » Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:28 pm

Ash_Quaker wrote:Huge grants available, especially with us being a community club.
Yes, but who in Darlington is really interested in him? 4 Weddings was quite good, but Love Actually won't have endeared him to many football supporters - not really a man-film. I'm not convinced this will raise millions.
On Sunday April 29, 2012 at 10:25 pm, Darlo Cockney wrote:Sadly some people have nothing better to do that invent rumours.

We will be playing at the arena again next season - fact.

Quakerz - if you actually attended games and spoke to people you might actually find our facts, rather than spreading s*** on this board.

DC

Bogratsteve
Posts: 4025
Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:57 am
Team Supported: Darlington

Re: The future

Post by Bogratsteve » Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:29 pm

Spyman wrote:
Ash_Quaker wrote:Huge grants available, especially with us being a community club.
Yes, but who in Darlington is really interested in him? 4 Weddings was quite good, but Love Actually won't have endeared him to many football supporters - not really a man-film. I'm not convinced this will raise millions.
woof woof :lol: :lol:

User avatar
Ash_Quaker
Posts: 975
Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:09 pm
Team Supported: Darlington
Location: Thirsk/Southampton

Re: The future

Post by Ash_Quaker » Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:32 pm

Spyman wrote:
Ash_Quaker wrote:Huge grants available, especially with us being a community club.
Yes, but who in Darlington is really interested in him? 4 Weddings was quite good, but Love Actually won't have endeared him to many football supporters - not really a man-film. I'm not convinced this will raise millions.
Image

Mowden1883
Posts: 9
Joined: Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:40 am
Team Supported: Darlington

Re: The future

Post by Mowden1883 » Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:35 pm

There are grants available but a lot of the money is going to have to come from the club i.e. the fans.

The cost of building a stadium up to BSP/L2 standards is approx £1m per 1,000 spectators which means £5-6m for a 5,000 to 6,000 capacity stadium. This is in addition to the land cost.

Two of the 3 sites must be Blackwell Meadows and Eastbourne. If I was to speculate on the 3rd "exciting" option, I would go for either Central Park or part of the South Park field.

Surely it will be in the interests of all for the club to take its time to get this right i.e. secure the right site and raise the funds rather than rushing into some quick fix which ultimately may prove inadequate for the club's long-term needs.

carver30
Posts: 774
Joined: Sat Jul 11, 2009 7:30 am
Team Supported: Darlington

Re: The future

Post by carver30 » Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:45 pm

Think it will take 2-3 years at least and be a mixture of grants, CIC and maybe on the back of a development of some kind. The more mix in the pot I think makes it achievable over the long term.

User avatar
Darlobp
Posts: 103
Joined: Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:20 pm
Team Supported: Darlington

Re: The future

Post by Darlobp » Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:41 pm

Most posters on here already know how hard it is going to be to get back to Darlo, I am pleased this is something that is starting to dawn on more people. The hated Arena looks like a no go as no one from the club or DMPRFC look to be interested in some sort of ground share to create a sporting HUB, so it looks like our best hope will be grants and council help, the problem with grants is they need some matching funds so for us to ask for millions in grants we need hundreds of thousands of matching funds from fans, the big question is this doable and how long will it take.

I would not rule out a return to the town, but I hear Brinkburn road is favourite to Neasham road, is this good enough for us, is this what the town expects for its football club, I suppose time will tell.
Ding,ding home time...somehow DFC have to get back to Darlo.

BUSHEAD
Posts: 1558
Joined: Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:02 pm
Team Supported: Darlington

Re: The future

Post by BUSHEAD » Thu Nov 22, 2012 4:14 pm

Darlobp wrote:I hear Brinkburn road is favourite to Neasham road, is this good enough for us, is this what the town expects for its football club, I suppose time will tell.

Where exactly on Brinkburn Road do you mean ?
If your talking about the RA ground, then its bollocks.
Think before posting

Quakerz
Posts: 20958
Joined: Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:32 pm
Team Supported: Darlington

Re: The future

Post by Quakerz » Thu Nov 22, 2012 4:20 pm

Oh, you not heard then BUSHEAD?

All the gaps, fill in with cheap terracing/seating, Bob's your uncle.
Image

“Everybody knows where that club is going now, so I’m out of the way. They can carry on, it’s their club, they can keep it." - Raj Singh, 2017

BUSHEAD
Posts: 1558
Joined: Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:02 pm
Team Supported: Darlington

Re: The future

Post by BUSHEAD » Thu Nov 22, 2012 4:27 pm

Sure us cricket lads wouldn't mind being relocated due to a new stand & 700 space car park......
Think before posting

Quakerz
Posts: 20958
Joined: Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:32 pm
Team Supported: Darlington

Re: The future

Post by Quakerz » Thu Nov 22, 2012 4:28 pm

There's plenty of parks to play cricket on.
Image

“Everybody knows where that club is going now, so I’m out of the way. They can carry on, it’s their club, they can keep it." - Raj Singh, 2017

BUSHEAD
Posts: 1558
Joined: Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:02 pm
Team Supported: Darlington

Re: The future

Post by BUSHEAD » Thu Nov 22, 2012 4:31 pm

The denes aren't quite up to NYSD standard ...
Think before posting

carver30
Posts: 774
Joined: Sat Jul 11, 2009 7:30 am
Team Supported: Darlington

Re: The future

Post by carver30 » Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:16 pm

Darlobp wrote:Most posters on here already know how hard it is going to be to get back to Darlo, I am pleased this is something that is starting to dawn on more people. The hated Arena looks like a no go as no one from the club or DMPRFC look to be interested in some sort of ground share to create a sporting HUB, so it looks like our best hope will be grants and council help, the problem with grants is they need some matching funds so for us to ask for millions in grants we need hundreds of thousands of matching funds from fans, the big question is this doable and how long will it take.

I would not rule out a return to the town, but I hear Brinkburn road is favourite to Neasham road, is this good enough for us, is this what the town expects for its football club, I suppose time will tell.
Think any council help will be verbal or planning certainly won't be financial, some major cuts on the horizon by DBC.

Mowden1883
Posts: 9
Joined: Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:40 am
Team Supported: Darlington

Re: The future

Post by Mowden1883 » Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:52 pm

I can't see the RA ground being an option as the cricket pitch would have to be sacrificed to allow the development of a stadium up to the standard required. This would be preclude a groundshare with the RA.

I suppose that buying the RA ground could be an option, but my guess is that developers may have an option on it. Bushead, obviously being an RA cricket member, may know?

There are also traffic issues with the RA ground. The Brinkburn Road / West Auckland Road junction is a nightmare at the best of times. I'm sure the council planners would have concerns with this.

If an existing ground was to be developed, the old athletics track next to Longfield school may be a better option. The club already has its training base there and I'm sure any new facilities could be shared with the school which I believe specialises as a sports academy.

User avatar
Big Tim
Posts: 2425
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2010 12:11 pm
Team Supported: Darlington

Re: The future

Post by Big Tim » Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:05 pm

Mowden1883 wrote:I can't see the RA ground being an option as the cricket pitch would have to be sacrificed to allow the development of a stadium up to the standard required. This would be preclude a groundshare with the RA.

I suppose that buying the RA ground could be an option, but my guess is that developers may have an option on it. Bushead, obviously being an RA cricket member, may know?

There are also traffic issues with the RA ground. The Brinkburn Road / West Auckland Road junction is a nightmare at the best of times. I'm sure the council planners would have concerns with this.

If an existing ground was to be developed, the old athletics track next to Longfield school may be a better option. The club already has its training base there and I'm sure any new facilities could be shared with the school which I believe specialises as a sports academy.
Longfield Road area is already chock a block with cars so that would be a no go, Access would be a problem aswell.

User avatar
DIRTYDAVE
Posts: 1290
Joined: Sat Jul 11, 2009 3:24 pm
Team Supported: Darlington

Re: The future

Post by DIRTYDAVE » Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:35 pm

Think Central Park site would be the best site its near to the railway station and near to the centre of town for passing fans to pop along.

Neil_Heaneys_Pace
Posts: 379
Joined: Tue Nov 01, 2011 2:14 pm
Team Supported: Darlington

Re: The future

Post by Neil_Heaneys_Pace » Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:45 pm

Wheres the central park again? havent lived in darlo for about ten years

Post Reply