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Re: Commercial manager

Post by Roadrunner1 » Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:32 pm

charlie wrote:If you have valid questions why dont you email the CIC board?
Why when this is not a CIC board appointment. Or have i got that wrong?

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Re: Commercial manager

Post by charlie » Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:35 pm

Roadrunner1 wrote:
charlie wrote:If you have valid questions why dont you email the CIC board?
Why when this is not a CIC board appointment. Or have i got that wrong?

Because we own the CIC and the CIC own the majority share in DFC, so if decisions are being made it should be run by the CIC board

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Re: Commercial manager

Post by Roadrunner1 » Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:38 pm

charlie wrote:
Roadrunner1 wrote:
charlie wrote:If you have valid questions why dont you email the CIC board?
Why when this is not a CIC board appointment. Or have i got that wrong?

Because we own the CIC and the CIC own the majority share in DFC, so if decisions are being made it should be run by the CIC board
That's the theory.

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Re: Commercial manager

Post by charlie » Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:46 pm

Roadrunner1 wrote:
charlie wrote:
Roadrunner1 wrote:
charlie wrote:If you have valid questions why dont you email the CIC board?
Why when this is not a CIC board appointment. Or have i got that wrong?

Because we own the CIC and the CIC own the majority share in DFC, so if decisions are being made it should be run by the CIC board
That's the theory.
Yea an having met with the some of the CIC board this week, I have found them to be approachable and willing to answer questions, instead of scare mongering, go and find out the answers

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Re: Commercial manager

Post by Roadrunner1 » Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:57 pm

charlie wrote:
Roadrunner1 wrote:
charlie wrote:
Roadrunner1 wrote:
charlie wrote:If you have valid questions why dont you email the CIC board?
Why when this is not a CIC board appointment. Or have i got that wrong?

Because we own the CIC and the CIC own the majority share in DFC, so if decisions are being made it should be run by the CIC board
That's the theory.
Yea an having met with the some of the CIC board this week, I have found them to be approachable and willing to answer questions, instead of scare mongering, go and find out the answers
Sorry, scaremongering?
I'm happy to put questions to those in charge. But I also like to discuss DFC on our Forum. Surely that's what it's all about?

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Re: Commercial manager

Post by charlie » Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:28 pm

Is it a mere coincidence that your from poolie land?

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Re: Commercial manager

Post by Roadrunner1 » Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:36 pm

charlie wrote:Is it a mere coincidence that your from poolie land?
Me? Im in Hartburn Stockton at this time. But why that matters I do not know. :|
Oh and I live in Darlington for the record.

Sorry you think I'm scaremongering but not able to point out how.

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Re: Commercial manager

Post by charlie » Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:37 pm

Roadrunner1 wrote:
charlie wrote:Is it a mere coincidence that your from poolie land?
Me? Im in Hartburn Stockton at this time. But why that matters I do not know. :|
Oh and I live in Darlington for the record.

Sorry you think I'm scaremongering but not able to point out how.

Not what your IP says

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Re: Commercial manager

Post by Roadrunner1 » Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:38 pm

charlie wrote:
Roadrunner1 wrote:
charlie wrote:Is it a mere coincidence that your from poolie land?
Me? Im in Hartburn Stockton at this time. But why that matters I do not know. :|
Oh and I live in Darlington for the record.

Sorry you think I'm scaremongering but not able to point out how.

Not what your IP says
Go on then tell me what it says? I'm intrigued.

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Re: Commercial manager

Post by charlie » Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:41 pm

is located @ United Kingdom Hartlepool Hartlepool

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Re: Commercial manager

Post by Roadrunner1 » Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:43 pm

charlie wrote:is located @ United Kingdom Hartlepool Hartlepool
Which site gives that?

I just did a search on iplocation.net that thinks I'm in Ferryhill, also wrong.

Whois actually states my IP is in Middlesbrough, more accurate.

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Re: Commercial manager

Post by charlie » Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:48 pm

Not justifying myself, you have a low post count which is allowed, answers to your questions are out there yet instead of finding out answers your making a lot of noise which to me was sus, so I checked your ip, it says your from Hartlepool. Now we do have Darlo supporters living in that wasteland but I know what I believe.

I think I`ve had enough entertainment from you

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Re: Commercial manager

Post by shawry » Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:50 pm

charlie wrote:
Roadrunner1 wrote:
charlie wrote:If you have valid questions why dont you email the CIC board?
Why when this is not a CIC board appointment. Or have i got that wrong?

Because we own the CIC and the CIC own the majority share in DFC, so if decisions are being made it should be run by the CIC board
This is where I get confused tbh.

Through the trust I am a member of the cic, which in turn is the major shareholder in darlo fc.

I thought the darlo fc board would be elected by the club investors, so the cic would get the most seats essentially, but the supporters club would be represented too.

I thought it would be them that would be responsible for running dfc, yet it seems all decisions go back to the cic.

Tbh im not massively liking how this appears to run, and I really would like a proper statement clarifying this at some stage, its not the sort of question you should need to ask, it should of been something released as a formal communication.

I hope when things settle down we will get some proper communication.

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Re: Commercial manager

Post by divas » Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:52 pm

Think we just have to accept that the board will appoint who they like and we'll just have to get on with raising funds for the club.

Pretty much how it's always been apart from we get to do bits and pieces to generate cash in other ways than just attending matches.

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Re: Commercial manager

Post by charlie » Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:54 pm

shawry wrote:
charlie wrote:
Roadrunner1 wrote:
charlie wrote:If you have valid questions why dont you email the CIC board?
Why when this is not a CIC board appointment. Or have i got that wrong?

Because we own the CIC and the CIC own the majority share in DFC, so if decisions are being made it should be run by the CIC board
This is where I get confused tbh.

Through the trust I am a member of the cic, which in turn is the major shareholder in darlo fc.

I thought the darlo fc board would be elected by the club investors, so the cic would get the most seats essentially, but the supporters club would be represented too.

I thought it would be them that would be responsible for running dfc, yet it seems all decisions go back to the cic.

Tbh im not massively liking how this appears to run, and I really would like a proper statement clarifying this at some stage, its not the sort of question you should need to ask, it should of been something released as a formal communication.

I hope when things settle down we will get some proper communication.

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That was the original plan, what the CIC board said on Tuesday is that the club have to show the CIC board that the money is being spent responsibly, and with direction. The way it was described is DFC has the current account with an overdraft maxed out, the CIC have the savings account and pays the bills

The CIC board are accountable to its members

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Re: Commercial manager

Post by divas » Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:05 am

quakersam wrote:Nobody would of put themselves forward anyway
Wouldn't they?

Given we had a full team working for a year for free....

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Re: Commercial manager

Post by Roadrunner1 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:17 am

divas wrote:
quakersam wrote:Nobody would of put themselves forward anyway
Wouldn't they?

Given we had a full team working for a year for free....
Exactly and the commercial team did a decent job.
A paid position (mainly by commission?) was always going to eventually be needed to further that success.

Just a shame we knew nothing of it until it has been filled.

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Re: Commercial manager

Post by AndyPark » Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:24 am

Welcome to the club.

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Re: Commercial manager

Post by loan_star » Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:37 am

Why is it that people who put themselves forward, whether for free or for commission only, seem to get slagged off before they even start the job? It's like some on here are being deliberately divisive just because it doesn't suit their idea of how the club should be run.

Lets hope they take no notice of the views of this minority of stirrers.

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Re: Commercial manager

Post by Roadrunner1 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:49 am

loan_star wrote:Why is it that people who put themselves forward, whether for free or for commission only, seem to get slagged off before they even start the job? It's like some on here are being deliberately divisive just because it doesn't suit their idea of how the club should be run.

Lets hope they take no notice of the views of this minority of stirrers.
I don't think she will browse uncovered to be honest.
But lets hope she brings in mega bucks with all her blue chip contacts.

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Re: Commercial manager

Post by loan_star » Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:51 am

Give her a chance then instead if criticising from day one!

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Re: Commercial manager

Post by Roadrunner1 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:00 am

loan_star wrote:Give her a chance then instead if criticising from day one!
I will now she's here.

Hopefully start with a decent shirt deal to replace echo. Or maybe she can even pursuade the Echo to agree a new deal even. Would be nice.

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Re: Commercial manager

Post by Free_Transfer » Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:04 am

Good luck to her.

It does seem a bit 'jobs for the boys'-esque though. Should have put something on the official site inviting applications but hey, these are proper business people so know what they're doing apparently..

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Re: Commercial manager

Post by Mr_Tibbs » Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:10 am

Roadrunner1 wrote:I don't think she will browse uncovered to be honest.
yeh right, or read the newspapers, or visit our websites or keep up with what's happening with the club on Facebook or twitter.

Of course she will. I'll eat my hat if she doesn't make an appearance here herself.
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That's good enough for me, to be honest.

As someone who can't make games I'm just happy that whatever decisions and actions which have been taken since we went into administration have got us this far and I'm very optimistic that this appointment will help grow the club into something that all of us Darlo fans can all be proud of. I'm very mindful and grateful for what people over there, present and past, have done and continue to do so the rest of us still have a football team to support.

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Re: Commercial manager

Post by carver30 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:10 am

Appears a very sensible appointment to me, as Ian Wilkinson has stressed they are trying to get the off pitch activities as professionally run as the playing side. Lets all support the appointee and give her any help where needed.

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Re: Commercial manager

Post by Christophano » Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:41 am

charlie wrote:you have a low post count
Not that low when you add it to the posts from his normal account... ;)

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Re: Commercial manager

Post by charlie » Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:45 am

Christophano wrote:
charlie wrote:you have a low post count
Not that low when you add it to the posts from his normal account... ;)
Ahhhh explains it

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Re: Commercial manager

Post by dickdarlington » Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:51 am

I have shares in a number of organisations, some big. I don't get asked every time they appoint some one. You leave it up to those in charge. And those are held to account at the end of the financial year. This post is a load of tosh.

We are all passionate about our club. But we can't have the CIC Vet all positions. And if it is, it would only be the CIC board that does. Once we e had the agm this will all cease to be relevant because the positions of authority will have been elected.

The money we have invested gives us a voice. Those who can volunteer will always be gratefully encouraged. But the club needs to be ran properly. And that is what is trying to be achieved behind the scenes.

My main question is what happens to the lads and lassies who have worked so hard on the commercial side so far. If they are willing, willing they still be allowed to continue.

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Re: Commercial manager

Post by Hilly » Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:00 am

dickdarlington wrote:I have shares in a number of organisations, some big. I don't get asked every time they appoint some one. You leave it up to those in charge. And those are held to account at the end of the financial year. This post is a load of tosh.

We are all passionate about our club. But we can't have the CIC Vet all positions. And if it is, it would only be the CIC board that does. Once we e had the agm this will all cease to be relevant because the positions of authority will have been elected.

The money we have invested gives us a voice. Those who can volunteer will always be gratefully encouraged. But the club needs to be ran properly. And that is what is trying to be achieved behind the scenes.

My main question is what happens to the lads and lassies who have worked so hard on the commercial side so far. If they are willing, willing they still be allowed to continue.
Verony sent a message to all involved in the commercial side earlier this week requesting to meet up as a group so I don't think it's a case of not being allowed to continue, just unfortunately some volunteers have decided to take a step back e.g. Divas, myself and probably a few more.

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Re: Commercial manager

Post by Maurice_Peddelty » Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:10 am

Roadrunner1 wrote:
super_les_mcjannet wrote:I would expect it to be largely if not wholly commission only.
Rightfully so given our position.

Still question the recruitment process. Did anyone know the club had advertised the position? Or was it even advertised at all.
Nationwide is a mutual building society. Does the CEO consult shareholders every time he wants to recruit a new member of staff or order a new box of pencils? Of course he doesn't!

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