Alan White - the future
Alan White - the future
Reading between the lines it seems like Alan was read the riot act at training last night and judging by his comments on Twitter his future may be in jeopardy.
It would be such a shame to lose someone with Alan's experience, passion and talent, but on the other hand I can see where Gray is coming from - at any club you need to treat players equally and set boundaries and he certainly overstepped the mark at the weekend. What kind of an example does that set to others if he isn't treated the same as someone like for instance Liam Hatch?
We've no idea yet on length of ban but I hope he's given a last chance once it's completed as he's proved in the last few games that he's needed at the back (when he has his head on).
Since dropping out of the league I think he's shown the officials a lack of respect which he needs to rectify, even if he doesn't agree with them.
It would be such a shame to lose someone with Alan's experience, passion and talent, but on the other hand I can see where Gray is coming from - at any club you need to treat players equally and set boundaries and he certainly overstepped the mark at the weekend. What kind of an example does that set to others if he isn't treated the same as someone like for instance Liam Hatch?
We've no idea yet on length of ban but I hope he's given a last chance once it's completed as he's proved in the last few games that he's needed at the back (when he has his head on).
Since dropping out of the league I think he's shown the officials a lack of respect which he needs to rectify, even if he doesn't agree with them.
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Martin Gray is a pragmatist. Like you say he is still a vital member of the squad. I'm sure he'll be back in contention once he has completed his ban.
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Do as I say not as I do.....MG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'd like to think that White can still have a big part to play, in the remainder of this season.
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Has Gray ever pushed an official?HarrytheQuaker wrote:Do as I say not as I do.....MG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As much as I like White, he stepped a long way over the line on Saturday. Hopefully it doesn't spell the end of him here - he's still a very effective player, in addition to being a cult hero, and a link to our heady days of pro football. With what he has written on twitter, its clear that White knows that he was in the wrong. Hopefully he can curb the excessive side of his behaviour - I'm sure nobody wants him to curb his passion and clear pride at playing for the club, but there are times when he needs to tone it back a little.
I'll be disappointed if he isn't given a second chance.
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Could I suggest a little look at the club's youtube channel....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5XQaXLeZXc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5XQaXLeZXc
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Common sense prevails.
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Perhaps the public admonishment will also encourage the authorities to be slightly more lenient with their punishment...
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It would be my guess that the final warning has come from higher up than MGHarrytheQuaker wrote:Do as I say not as I do.....MG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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And to be fair to Gray, he's curbed his touchline antics a lot recently. I think I can only recall Salford (A) last season the last time he was sent off, and that was the only time that season. Compared to 13/14 when he was sent off 4/5 times.
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4 game ban & final warning from MG
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Only problem now is players will try to wind him up even more
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I don't think it is players that wind him up.darlo reborn wrote:Only problem now is players will try to wind him up even more
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No, clearly not. His problem is a lack of respect for officials at this level. Although he was sent off plenty of times in previous spells it was usually for foul play rather than dissent. White has gone on record to say that refs at this level can't take the swearing and criticism that they used to in his football league days. I'm not sure whether that's a non league thing or just a sea change in refereeing in general, but he really needs to learn to respect the officials, even if he doesn't agree with them or his career will be over pretty sharpishlo36789 wrote:I don't think it is players that wind him up.darlo reborn wrote:Only problem now is players will try to wind him up even more
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I am pleased with this response from the Club, and MG's clear statement that enough is enough. Quite simply it is over to Whitey now it is really in his hands.
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I was thinking last night, what would be the chances of dialling B for Brown to cover a couple of games while White/Hunter are suspended?
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I think it can be more noticeable at this level. Noise travels further.divas wrote:His problem is a lack of respect for officials at this level. Although he was sent off plenty of times in previous spells it was usually for foul play rather than dissent. White has gone on record to say that refs at this level can't take the swearing and criticism that they used to in his football league days.
A referee will look after his own back, and if there is a 38 year old that from the stands (where the assessor is) looks like he is influencing your decision making you need to get rid of him basically.
I have seen him following referees around the pitch, constantly going on. I don't remember that in his football league days he generally stayed in his position and perhaps said things when the referee was closer.
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I think it'll be very hard for White to not react if he is provoked. When the red mist descends, he'll get into trouble.
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This Alan White situation brings to mind my favourite Steppenwolf song "The Pusher" - great song
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theoriginalfatcat wrote:This Alan White situation brings to mind my favourite Steppenwolf song "The Pusher" - great song
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What can I say about White that I've not said before? He is a liability because he is an idiot. Why do people make excuses for this moron? Time, time and time again he will let us down. He sets a bad example to our younger players and fans. I've seen the likes of Mitchell getting involved with officials and opposing fans following White's lead. Compare his behaviour to the professionalism of Leon Scott who gets panned on this forum. He's only still with us because of defence is not up to the level of our other departments; the majority of our midfielders and forwards would walk into any of the top sides in this league, our defensive personnel would not. Before people come out with the old argument that he's not going to change his ways at 38, well flip it this way like; he's 38 for christ's sake, he needs to act like a man not a pubescent school boy. Grow up White.
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You're doing an absolute disservice to a player who has almost played 200 games for us.Quaker Mod wrote:What can I say about White that I've not said before? He is a liability because he is an idiot. Why do people make excuses for this moron? Time, time and time again he will let us down. He sets a bad example to our younger players and fans. I've seen the likes of Mitchell getting involved with officials and opposing fans following White's lead. Compare his behaviour to the professionalism of Leon Scott who gets panned on this forum. He's only still with us because of defence is not up to the level of our other departments; the majority of our midfielders and forwards would walk into any of the top sides in this league, our defensive personnel would not. Before people come out with the old argument that he's not going to change his ways at 38, well flip it this way like; he's 38 for christ's sake, he needs to act like a man not a pubescent school boy. Grow up White.
White has been sent off three times for us over the past 3 seasons (and one of those was not down to his aggressive side). Yes what he did last Saturday was inexcusable, you can't condone it, but Alan has been an excellent servant to the club and is currently our best centre half.
To say he is a liability is very harsh.
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Liability, idiot, moron, sets a bad example.
Words that much better describe you QuakerMod than Alan White.
Words that much better describe you QuakerMod than Alan White.
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I know in the past I have not been Whitey's biggest fan, but QuakerMod those words you use are OTT. Whitey has been a great servant for the club and he should be cherished not abused.
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Robbie Painter wrote:Liability, idiot, moron, sets a bad example.
Words that much better describe you QuakerMod than Alan White.
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Whitey will be in the bar after the game next week Quakermod,would love it if you shed your cloak of annonimity on here and told him he is a moron to his face.Dont think it will happen somehow.
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Hi Alan.
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Cue "The Eye of the Tiger"TDS wrote:Hi Alan.
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Why, what do you expect him to do Emdubya?Emdubya wrote:Whitey will be in the bar after the game next week Quakermod,would love it if you shed your cloak of annonimity on here and told him he is a moron to his face.Dont think it will happen somehow.
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