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Ngandu gone

Post by Ghost_Of_1883 » Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:12 am

In the least surprising news of the day, the club has announced that Johnny Ngandu has been released.

That leaves just 2 of Clowning's signings on the books - none of the 14 he signed were any better than anything we already had.

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Post by PierremontQuaker03 » Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:14 am

Iv'e got to say he was one of the better signings under Howling - there weren't many though
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Post by Ghost_Of_1883 » Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:21 am

PierremontQuaker03 wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:14 am
Iv'e got to say he was one of the better signings under Howling - there weren't many though
He was one of the better signings and yet he is bang average for the level and not capable of stringing 2 good performances together. He'd probably benefit by dropping a league and trying to rebuild from there.

I think we will also release Siddik and Curry (assuming Asante is contracted), maybe try and hang on to the rest?

Maybe also Lawlor because of his back issues, but I wouldn't be against giving him another year.

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Post by LMQuaker » Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:24 am

Another one who I’m not fussed about. Scored a cracking goal but again very inconsistent. No shocks with anyone that’s gone so far and all correct decisions. Very excited about who SW/TM bring in.

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Post by DavidCurriesMullet » Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:25 am

Ngandu was ok. Technically decent, and had moments of inspiration, but not suited to the battle we were in. Wish him well for the future.

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Post by Lawman3 » Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:42 am

I liked Ngandu. He added a bit of energy to a very lethargic midfield when he arrived. Good luck to him.
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Post by jjljks » Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:26 am

Still looking for a midfield replacement for Lambert & Ngandu just wasn't up to scoring & creating like Jack.

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Post by Old Git » Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:54 am

Ghost_Of_1883 wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:12 am
In the least surprising news of the day, the club has announced that Johnny Ngandu has been released.

That leaves just 2 of Clowning's signings on the books - none of the 14 he signed were any better than anything we already had.
I think Hayden Lindley is still on our books as well as Siddick and Asante. He is currently on loan at Pontefact Collieries, but I think highly likely to be released in the near future.

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Post by DavidCurriesMullet » Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:03 am

jjljks wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:26 am
Still looking for a midfield replacement for Lambert & Ngandu just wasn't up to scoring & creating like Jack.
Let's be honest, we'll struggle to find anyone to score and create like Jack did.

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Post by Ghost_Of_1883 » Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:07 am

DavidCurriesMullet wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:03 am
jjljks wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:26 am
Still looking for a midfield replacement for Lambert & Ngandu just wasn't up to scoring & creating like Jack.
Let's be honest, we'll struggle to find anyone to score and create like Jack did.
Didn't Cornish score about 7 in his 3 months playing for us.

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Post by don'tbuythesun » Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:17 am

Jonny joined us in October 2023 from Stratford Town, and made 19 appearances, scoring two goals against Gloucester (which was the only goal of the game) and Chester.
Am I reading this wrong? Good luck to him.

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Re: Ngandu gone

Post by Quakers2009 » Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:46 am

Old Git wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:54 am
Ghost_Of_1883 wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:12 am
In the least surprising news of the day, the club has announced that Johnny Ngandu has been released.

That leaves just 2 of Clowning's signings on the books - none of the 14 he signed were any better than anything we already had.
I think Hayden Lindley is still on our books as well as Siddick and Asante. He is currently on loan at Pontefact Collieries, but I think highly likely to be released in the near future.
Siddik needs to be released next, he is poor.

Lindley is decent on the ball but doesn't impact the game, even defensively.

Ngandu - the right decision to let go, same with Taylor.

I'd like to see the retained list be; Griffiths, Hedley, Lawlor, Lees, Sukar, Platt, Hatfield, Rivers, Cornish, Salkeld, Main, Nelson.

Unfortunately Asante will be on that list.

Maw & Harker are nothing more than Academy players for now.

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Re: Ngandu gone

Post by Quakers2009 » Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:46 am

Lawman3 wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:42 am
I liked Ngandu. He added a bit of energy to a very lethargic midfield when he arrived. Good luck to him.
He was poor.

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Re: Ngandu gone

Post by Quakers2009 » Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:48 am

On another note, why are we drip feeding our released list?

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Post by CrazyDarlo » Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:03 pm

He wasn’t poor at all but he hasn’t done enough under Watson to prove himself so no surprise at all to see him moved on.

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Post by My opinion » Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:15 pm

In my opinion, I would be looking for a new left back and a new right back with a bit of pace. Both Griffiths and Hedley were lost whenever a pacey winger was playing agaist them.. Clearly remember Hedley being scalded by the lad at Spendy, and Griffiths the same against Rushall.
When you look at our defence over the last two full seasons they have not been good enough. Even when we were top of the league our defense was one of the worst in the top half of the league at that time.

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Re: Ngandu gone

Post by Lawman3 » Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:18 pm

Quakers2009 wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:46 am
Lawman3 wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:42 am
I liked Ngandu. He added a bit of energy to a very lethargic midfield when he arrived. Good luck to him.
He was poor.
He really wasn't poor. At all. I've seen some players over the years who would fit that description.
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Post by Yarblockos » Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:25 pm

My opinion wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:15 pm
In my opinion, I would be looking for a new left back and a new right back with a bit of pace. Both Griffiths and Hedley were lost whenever a pacey winger was playing agaist them.. Clearly remember Hedley being scalded by the lad at Spendy, and Griffiths the same against Rushall.
When you look at our defence over the last two full seasons they have not been good enough. Even when we were top of the league our defense was one of the worst in the top half of the league at that time.
Correct, we need one (or two) full-backs who have pace. People seem to be in love with Hedley and Griffiths though.

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Post by Quakerlad » Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:42 pm

Yarblockos wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:25 pm
My opinion wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:15 pm
In my opinion, I would be looking for a new left back and a new right back with a bit of pace. Both Griffiths and Hedley were lost whenever a pacey winger was playing agaist them.. Clearly remember Hedley being scalded by the lad at Spendy, and Griffiths the same against Rushall.
When you look at our defence over the last two full seasons they have not been good enough. Even when we were top of the league our defense was one of the worst in the top half of the league at that time.
Correct, we need one (or two) full-backs who have pace. People seem to be in love with Hedley and Griffiths though.
Completely agree, none of our likely defenders are quick at all, probably the opposite.

The cover that Dodds gave us last season at times simply because he was quick was excellent and something we lack actually across the whole team. Similarly, albeit a number of yrs ago, the number of times that Hunter made up for our centre halves lack of pace saved us many a goal.

Good news is that SW & TM will know this better than us.

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Re: Ngandu gone

Post by TFDM » Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:05 pm

Quakers2009 wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:48 am
On another note, why are we drip feeding our released list?
I don't think we are. The players who are left so far are ones who have announced that they are leaving at the end of their contract.

Two different things I think.

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Post by MB86DFC » Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:11 pm

Lawman3 wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:18 pm
Quakers2009 wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:46 am
Lawman3 wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:42 am
I liked Ngandu. He added a bit of energy to a very lethargic midfield when he arrived. Good luck to him.
He was poor.
He really wasn't poor. At all. I've seen some players over the years who would fit that description.

Watching him at Spennymoor showed how poor he was. Completely off the pace.

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Post by CrazyDarlo » Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:18 pm

MB86DFC wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:11 pm
Lawman3 wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:18 pm
Quakers2009 wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:46 am
Lawman3 wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:42 am
I liked Ngandu. He added a bit of energy to a very lethargic midfield when he arrived. Good luck to him.
He was poor.
He really wasn't poor. At all. I've seen some players over the years who would fit that description.

Watching him at Spennymoor showed how poor he was. Completely off the pace.
He was off the pace.. it was almost like he hadn’t played for a while..

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Post by super_les_mcjannet » Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:40 pm

Yarblockos wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:25 pm
My opinion wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:15 pm
In my opinion, I would be looking for a new left back and a new right back with a bit of pace. Both Griffiths and Hedley were lost whenever a pacey winger was playing agaist them.. Clearly remember Hedley being scalded by the lad at Spendy, and Griffiths the same against Rushall.
When you look at our defence over the last two full seasons they have not been good enough. Even when we were top of the league our defense was one of the worst in the top half of the league at that time.
Correct, we need one (or two) full-backs who have pace. People seem to be in love with Hedley and Griffiths though.
I don't think anyone loves either (maybe they do), however they are both dependable players who give you a steady away performance over a chunk of games and probably quite key is they are no doubt around average pay in a squad. They are also, especially Hedley are flexible in terms of positions and doing a job.

Some pace in the back line would be quite decent. Think Burton from Hartlepool would be a decent signing but I doubt his contract is up and if he would be released. However he has pace, strong and aggressive, alongside some experience like Barrow at full back etc. would be very decent.

To afford players like Main, Hatfield, Platt etc. you also have to pad the squad out with some other dependable 6 out of 10 type players.

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Re: Ngandu gone

Post by Beano » Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:53 pm

Quakers2009 wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:48 am
On another note, why are we drip feeding our released list?
I assume that SW/TM want to speak to each player on an individual basis and some of those going might depend on those offered terms who do or do not choose to stay. It is good practice to speak with individuals rather than finding out from a press release and there has been limited time since our final game of the season.

Personally, I have no issue with that approach at all.

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Post by DavidCurriesMullet » Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:26 pm

MB86DFC wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:11 pm
Lawman3 wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:18 pm
Quakers2009 wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:46 am
Lawman3 wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:42 am
I liked Ngandu. He added a bit of energy to a very lethargic midfield when he arrived. Good luck to him.
He was poor.
He really wasn't poor. At all. I've seen some players over the years who would fit that description.

Watching him at Spennymoor showed how poor he was. Completely off the pace.
He had a poor game. Different to being a poor player.

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Re: Ngandu gone

Post by DavidCurriesMullet » Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:36 pm

Ghost_Of_1883 wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:07 am
DavidCurriesMullet wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:03 am
jjljks wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:26 am
Still looking for a midfield replacement for Lambert & Ngandu just wasn't up to scoring & creating like Jack.
Let's be honest, we'll struggle to find anyone to score and create like Jack did.
Didn't Cornish score about 7 in his 3 months playing for us.
6 i think, and 5 assists. He may well improve enough to be that creative spark we've been missing. Hopefully we'll get to see him for a full season.

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Re: Ngandu gone

Post by Ghost_Of_1883 » Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:01 pm

Quakers2009 wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:46 am
Old Git wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:54 am
Ghost_Of_1883 wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:12 am
In the least surprising news of the day, the club has announced that Johnny Ngandu has been released.

That leaves just 2 of Clowning's signings on the books - none of the 14 he signed were any better than anything we already had.
I think Hayden Lindley is still on our books as well as Siddick and Asante. He is currently on loan at Pontefact Collieries, but I think highly likely to be released in the near future.
Siddik needs to be released next, he is poor.

Lindley is decent on the ball but doesn't impact the game, even defensively.

Ngandu - the right decision to let go, same with Taylor.

I'd like to see the retained list be; Griffiths, Hedley, Lawlor, Lees, Sukar, Platt, Hatfield, Rivers, Cornish, Salkeld, Main, Nelson.

Unfortunately Asante will be on that list.

Maw & Harker are nothing more than Academy players for now.
Sukar will not be retained, that's been clear for months.

Also, we will no doubt try and sign Barrow, who is a better player.

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Re: Ngandu gone

Post by LoidLucan » Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:48 pm

To be fair to Ngandu, he actually played a big part in our survival by contributing goals in two games that helped us gain a crucial six points. Best of luck to him.

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Post by StevieMardenboro » Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:26 pm

Ngandu arguably Gowling’s best signing ? Apart from Burton I guess. I think he was alright and provided some creativity in key moments - but at the same time I bet he doesn’t stay at this level .

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