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FA Cup replays scrapped from R1 in 24/25

Post by JE93 » Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:47 am

As above. No FA cup replays from R1 next season. Seems to be a decision from the Premier League despite them not being involved in those rounds.

Terrible for smaller teams throughout the pyramid who can make a fortune from earning replays at higher placed team grounds. Surely there needs to be additional prize money / compensation in earlier rounds to make up for this.

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Post by loan_star » Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:27 am

JE93 wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:47 am
As above. No FA cup replays from R1 next season. Seems to be a decision from the Premier League despite them not being involved in those rounds.

Terrible for smaller teams throughout the pyramid who can make a fortune from earning replays at higher placed team grounds. Surely there needs to be additional prize money / compensation in earlier rounds to make up for this.
It seems EFL clubs weren't even asked if they agreed or not, never mind non league clubs!
That windfall we had v Walsall a few years ago would be a thing of the past, yet the additional finances were a massive boost to us.
I think the premier league has its head up its arse. Its not like they even put out strong teams in the early rounds for them either!

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Re: FA Cup replays scrapped from R1 in 24/25

Post by H1987 » Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:46 am

loan_star wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:27 am
JE93 wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:47 am
As above. No FA cup replays from R1 next season. Seems to be a decision from the Premier League despite them not being involved in those rounds.

Terrible for smaller teams throughout the pyramid who can make a fortune from earning replays at higher placed team grounds. Surely there needs to be additional prize money / compensation in earlier rounds to make up for this.
It seems EFL clubs weren't even asked if they agreed or not, never mind non league clubs!
That windfall we had v Walsall a few years ago would be a thing of the past, yet the additional finances were a massive boost to us.
I think the premier league has its head up its arse. Its not like they even put out strong teams in the early rounds for them either!
I’m not even sure it’s all of the Premier League. It’s the big boys and their wanky expanded Champions League that absolutely no one wanted. Who in their right mind watches the champions league group stages, with its endless filler matches and damp squibs, and thinks ‘you know what, we need some more of this’. Awful.

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Re: FA Cup replays scrapped from R1 in 24/25

Post by lo36789 » Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:20 am

Happy for the PL clubs to have a choice. If they don't want to play a replay they can pull out again that stage.

They must recompense their opponent with their television proceeds from the initial game (if any).

Lower league side gets to progress. Get the prize money for the round, get rewarded financially in the next round.

Otherwise it is so weighted towards the bigger sides. They already asked for an extra sub if the game goes into extra time so they can use their bigger / stronger squad depth. They also have the fitness advantage which will be telling in the initial ties.

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Post by onewayup » Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:02 am

Big piece about this in the telegraph from Peterborough management.
Saying that to change it. all EFL clubs and all other clubs need to write to Emirates who sponsor the cup .also saying players who came through the lower leagues and now earning in excess of 80,000 a week should help by doing the same me , says that the integrity of the cup competition is so one sided in favour of the big clubs it should never have been passed by the FA , no communication at all with lower leagues at all before this was released to the league's.
But this is how they the big clubs and FA treat lower levels of football.the whole infrastructure of the perimid is on shaky ground with this rule.
Take the foundations away and everything falls down. Crazy situation and crazy rule change.

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Post by loan_star » Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:34 am

onewayup wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:02 am
Big piece about this in the telegraph from Peterborough management.
Saying that to change it. all EFL clubs and all other clubs need to write to Emirates who sponsor the cup .also saying players who came through the lower leagues and now earning in excess of 80,000 a week should help by doing the same me , says that the integrity of the cup competition is so one sided in favour of the big clubs it should never have been passed by the FA , no communication at all with lower leagues at all before this was released to the league's.
But this is how they the big clubs and FA treat lower levels of football.the whole infrastructure of the perimid is on shaky ground with this rule.
Take the foundations away and everything falls down. Crazy situation and crazy rule change.
But we get to see Salford and Wrexham on the telly more so all is good :crazy:

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Post by MB86DFC » Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:09 pm

Easy solution. All teams group together and refuse to play from 1st round onwards unless decision overturned

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Post by Old Git » Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:00 pm

MB86DFC wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:09 pm
Easy solution. All teams group together and refuse to play from 1st round onwards unless decision overturned
Don’t be silly that would play right in to the hands of the Premier League clubs. They would be very happy to limit it to just Championship and Premier League teams and cut out the little clubs all together.

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Post by H1987 » Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:23 pm

Boot the Premier League out. They're a separate entity after all. Bet the Championship clubs would love it. The winner still gets a European spot. It's controlled by the English FA after all.

Would be a great watch.

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Post by MB86DFC » Fri Apr 19, 2024 3:08 pm

Old Git wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:00 pm
MB86DFC wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:09 pm
Easy solution. All teams group together and refuse to play from 1st round onwards unless decision overturned
Don’t be silly that would play right in to the hands of the Premier League clubs. They would be very happy to limit it to just Championship and Premier League teams and cut out the little clubs all together.
The sponsors wouldn’t love it. Cut the money and they will change their tune

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Post by Old Git » Fri Apr 19, 2024 3:20 pm

MB86DFC wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2024 3:08 pm
Old Git wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:00 pm
MB86DFC wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:09 pm
Easy solution. All teams group together and refuse to play from 1st round onwards unless decision overturned
Don’t be silly that would play right in to the hands of the Premier League clubs. They would be very happy to limit it to just Championship and Premier League teams and cut out the little clubs all together.
The sponsors wouldn’t love it. Cut the money and they will change their tune
Not sure I can agree with you. Why would a sponsor like Emirates give a nick about the smaller clubs ? As long as they get TV exposure that’s all they want.
Unfortunately, this is just another example of the Big Boys bullying the Little Boys.

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Post by theoriginalfatcat » Fri Apr 19, 2024 3:20 pm

The F.A. 🙄 They'll end up killing the goose that lays the golden eggs. The top Premier League clubs are pretty much foreign owned businesses employing many foreign players, managers etc, everything benefits them.

If the P.L. got chucked out of the F.A. Cup it would make it better, not worse. It would make it more interesting.

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Post by Spyman » Fri Apr 19, 2024 7:36 pm

MB86DFC wrote:Easy solution. All teams group together and refuse to play from 1st round onwards unless decision overturned
This

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Post by BUSHEAD » Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:50 pm

This benefits lower league clubs, as the chance of progression in the competition increases

Only error they've made, is not going to penalties at the end of 90 mins.
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Post by jjljks » Sat Apr 20, 2024 3:56 am

Not radical enough for me. Start with 5 penalties, then if all square, play 15mns each way. At end of 30mns if all square, play extra 90 mns. Finally, again if all square, toss a coin. In extreme circumstances, like waterlogged or frozen pitch or Black Death both teams agreeing beforehand, just flip a coin.

The FA should be cherishing this historic competition which has given football such great moments and is watched by fans around the world, not pandering to the whims of greedy Premier League clubs & owners who begrudge money going to football's grassroots.

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Post by Spyman » Sat Apr 20, 2024 7:09 am

Well, the club have released an official statement opposing the decision.

I think momentum will grow with this over the next few days.

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Post by theoriginalfatcat » Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:06 am

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There are a number of petitions here, if the F.A. get enough grief they might reconsider.
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Post by Darlopartisan » Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:52 am

Can’t see anything on the bbc sports pages about this, maybe g linker could say something, he’s always waxing lyrical about the magic of the fa cup when it’s on the bbc

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Post by Darlo Dodger » Sat Apr 20, 2024 11:01 am

Darlopartisan wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:52 am
Can’t see anything on the bbc sports pages about this, maybe g linker could say something, he’s always waxing lyrical about the magic of the fa cup when it’s on the bbc
The only item I can find on the decision is this one where comments from the managers of Arsenal, Man. Utd. & Man. City are given
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/68860470

…who naturally enough see the change as inevitable

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Post by joejaques » Sat Apr 20, 2024 12:11 pm

The only thing that surprises me about this decision is that it has taken so long to come about. I expected this within five years or so from the abolition of second and subsequent replays and the enforced imposition of penalty shoot outs. :roll:
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Post by LMQuaker » Sat Apr 20, 2024 12:51 pm

MB86DFC wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:09 pm
Easy solution. All teams group together and refuse to play from 1st round onwards unless decision overturned
And then get stung even more with a large fine.

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Post by BUSHEAD » Sat Apr 20, 2024 1:13 pm

Darlopartisan wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:52 am
Can’t see anything on the bbc sports pages about this, maybe g linker could say something, he’s always waxing lyrical about the magic of the fa cup when it’s on the bbc
Someone obviously hasn't seen Linekers podcast.

He agrees that its a good move for lower league clubs scrapping these pointless replays, in favour of a much greater chance of progression.
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Post by jjljks » Sat Apr 20, 2024 1:38 pm

Does Lineker not realise that by scrapping replays, he is doing himself out of appearance money? Or is this a case of turkey voting for Christmas??

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Post by BUSHEAD » Sat Apr 20, 2024 1:41 pm

jjljks wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2024 1:38 pm
Does Lineker not realise that by scrapping replays, he is doing himself out of appearance money? Or is this a case of turkey voting for Christmas??
More games will be shown on tv, so i would imagine not.
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