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Fans' Behaviour

Post by Darlo_Dan » Sat Apr 01, 2017 5:58 pm

Let's not pretend that DFC doesn't know who these idiots are. There will be loads of photos of them today, and many of these individuals are at home games behind the goal in the tin shed. It's no good posting statements before the game and requesting for information after the game. We know who they are, so get them banned.

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Re: Fans' Behaviour

Post by DL5 » Sat Apr 01, 2017 6:12 pm

Wankers
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Re: Fans' Behaviour

Post by lo36789 » Sat Apr 01, 2017 6:26 pm

They must be costing us considerably more in fines than we take in gate receipts. At least 3 incident reports to be the FA for us today. That'll be four figures easily you would expect.

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Re: Fans' Behaviour

Post by quakerste » Sat Apr 01, 2017 6:27 pm

Two groups of idiots today the young ones behind the goal throwing objects at the keeper and the older idiots in the corner, off the so called fun bus. Constantly throwing objects at the stewards and abusing them for the whole of the second half.

You are a disgrace to the club, I did take photos and will be passing them on.

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Re: Fans' Behaviour

Post by Darlo_Pete » Sat Apr 01, 2017 6:40 pm

Well there's always the fans photo's on here, so should hopefully be easy to identify them. Unfortunately the club has seemed unwilling to take any action against culprits in the past, so perhaps the idiots think they can do anything and get away with it.

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Re: Fans' Behaviour

Post by grytters » Sat Apr 01, 2017 6:44 pm

Darlo_Dan wrote:Let's not pretend that DFC doesn't know who these idiots are. There will be loads of photos of them today, and many of these individuals are at home games behind the goal in the tin shed. It's no good posting statements before the game and requesting for information after the game. We know who they are, so get them banned.
This.

And send photographs to away clubs so they can stop them getting in, and bar entry to their clubhouses
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Re: Fans' Behaviour

Post by quakerste » Sat Apr 01, 2017 6:48 pm

Just allow official club coaches as well. Their behaviour today has probably cost well behaved fans a trip to Salford, without doubt will be all ticket.

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Post by Fylde2022 » Sat Apr 01, 2017 6:54 pm

I hope you guys are able to eradicate this element.
Hopefully, this is where the ticketing system comes in handy, as personal details are stored, along with plenty of CCTV.

I can see a few banning orders by Monday.

I hope it's not true about 2 of your female fans getting punched.

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Re: Fans' Behaviour

Post by Breedon » Sat Apr 01, 2017 6:59 pm

The trouble is a lot of them genuinely aren't regulars. I go to most home games, never seen a single one of the tossers from today at Bishop or BM before. Maybe the odd one gets to some home games or whatever but surely regulars would recognize them by faces at least if they turned up a lot? Seems to me that they're a gang of young chap plebs who pick out certain away games where we're expecting a big following and there might be an opportunity to get rowdy and kick off.

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Re: Fans' Behaviour

Post by Craig09 » Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:04 pm

Absolute shocking it did not help fylde serving drinks all game even tho i did enjoy having a pint and watching the game. I was near the corner and the supposed adults who were taunting the stewards ie guys in there 40s and 50s pissed up want to take a long look at themselves. If that was me id be embarrassed

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Re: Fans' Behaviour

Post by dfc4me » Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:05 pm

I hope you are right about the banning orders. Sadly I also think Fylde must take some responsibility because selling beer all match and allowing bottles to be taken onto the terraces was reckless in the extreme, like adding petrol to a fire.

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Post by Fylde2022 » Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:14 pm

To be fair, alcohol has been permitted all season. We've not had any issues with crowd control.

Stockport County fans were hammered, but were well behaved.
I think the bad element that you brought today came to do what they did. Some were leathered from the Blackpool bars.

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Re: Fans' Behaviour

Post by Craig09 » Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:23 pm

One thing use have to sort out is that if you dont look 21 you don't get served. I had 15 year kids walking past me with 2 or 3 pints at a time

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Re: Fans' Behaviour

Post by DarloDave40 » Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:26 pm

The club do take it seriously and previously people have been banned. The problem is unless your charged taken to court and found guilty the club can't do anything.

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Post by Darlogramps » Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:27 pm

Sorry, blaming Fylde for serving alcohol is buck-passing. Plenty of people had booze today and didn't go mental. The troublemakers turned up to cause havoc.

People should take personal responsibility for their actions. If they consume too much alcohol and spit at and abuse stewards, punch another fan, throw bottles at people, kick over advertising hoardings or invade the pitch (all of which I saw today), that is the individual's responsibility and no one else's.

I was at the game today and the second half was the most unpleasant, nasty, uncomfortable experience I've had a football game. In a way, I was glad we didn't score a second to make it 2-2, otherwise there'd have been hell on. Like quakerste, I took photos of the troublemakers and will be passing them on to the club.

There were at least 30/40 fans causing the trouble today, old and young. It's not confined to one section of supporters.

We also had another fan taken away by medics after falling head first over the hoardings at half time. I hope this supporter is ok.

And the whole club, fans included, has not done enough to clamp down on it. It's all well and good saying "every club have their idiotic element" and "these are just one game a season fans."

Firstly, they're not one game a season fans - I've seen a number of today's troublemakers at home games in the past. People know who they are. Which leads on to my 2nd point, which is supporters know how these troublemakers are, but are keeping quiet.

Either they don't want it to be their problem, or they don't want to grass. I'm sorry, but that's not good enough. These troublemakers are damaging the club's reputation. The club's board need all the help they can get in identifying these troublemakers and ridding from the club once and for all. If that involves naming and shaming in the Echo or on the website, or getting the police involved, I'm all for it.
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Re: Fans' Behaviour

Post by Craig09 » Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:30 pm

I must admit i really enjoyed watching the footy and having a pint just a shame others spoiled it

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Re: Fans' Behaviour

Post by Craig09 » Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:32 pm

To be fair serving drinks through out the game to our lot whos proberly had 15 pints plus before the match, fylde were just keeping them topped up in my opinion.

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Post by Darlogramps » Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:36 pm

Craig09 wrote:To be fair serving drinks through out the game to our lot whos proberly had 15 pints plus before the match, fylde were just keeping them topped up in my opinion.
Not the point, it's looking for an excuse and is an attempt to mitigate the unjustifiable actions of troublemakers.

We should be focussing on the hooligan element who cause trouble season after season, and what we can do to remove this element from the club.
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Post by quakerste » Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:01 pm

I believe the majority were on the mkd buses. I would have escorted them all to the local station and taken them off one by one . All those involved in the issues arrested and left to make their own way back.

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Post by quakerste » Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:03 pm

Well done to the girl who tried to stop some of the idiots throwing objects at the keeper and a photographer. Hope she is okay.

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Re: Fans' Behaviour

Post by Breedon » Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:21 pm

Letting fans buy drinks all game and drink on the terraces shouldn't be an issue! We're talking about adults FFS! Everyone should be able to have a drink and watch the game without having to start throwing restrictions around because some arse holes might kick off. Why not let the decent fans drink as much or little as they want and just do away with the arse holes who spoil everything!?

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Post by Darlofan97 » Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:28 pm

Breedon wrote:Letting fans buy drinks all game and drink on the terraces shouldn't be an issue! We're talking about adults FFS! Everyone should be able to have a drink and watch the game without having to start throwing restrictions around because some arse holes might kick off. Why not let the decent fans drink as much or little as they want and just do away with the arse holes who spoil everything!?
This is the issue, a lot of the trouble-makers behind the goal were kids. People were walking out the concourse with 3/4 bottles at a time, you would have to question if they were all for them.

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Re: Fans' Behaviour

Post by loan_star » Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:29 pm

Darlogramps wrote:
Craig09 wrote:To be fair serving drinks through out the game to our lot whos proberly had 15 pints plus before the match, fylde were just keeping them topped up in my opinion.
Not the point, it's looking for an excuse and is an attempt to mitigate the unjustifiable actions of troublemakers.

We should be focussing on the hooligan element who cause trouble season after season, and what we can do to remove this element from the club.
It is the point and its not trying to justify the actions of the troublemakers.
If there are problems occurring then the club should be advised that all alcohol sales should be stopped. Not fair on those who can drink sensibly but it stops the idiots getting any more.

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Post by Darlogramps » Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:35 pm

loan_star wrote:
Darlogramps wrote:
Craig09 wrote:To be fair serving drinks through out the game to our lot whos proberly had 15 pints plus before the match, fylde were just keeping them topped up in my opinion.
Not the point, it's looking for an excuse and is an attempt to mitigate the unjustifiable actions of troublemakers.

We should be focussing on the hooligan element who cause trouble season after season, and what we can do to remove this element from the club.
It is the point and its not trying to justify the actions of the troublemakers.
If there are problems occurring then the club should be advised that all alcohol sales should be stopped. Not fair on those who can drink sensibly but it stops the idiots getting any more.
Always someone else's fault, isn't it loan_star? I presume you'll also say their goalkeeper antagonised the fans.

The problem is not Fylde serving alcohol. It's the fans not taking responsibility. If it's at a point where clubs can't serve alcohol to grown men, that is a damning indictment. Stop looking for excuses.

These troublemakers had turned up looking to cause trouble. They'd have caused problems regardless of whether they had a few extra pints. There were plenty who were already drunk at kick off.
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Re: Fans' Behaviour

Post by Craig09 » Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:50 pm

Your right i over heard 1 lad in the drinks que saying he was in the boot & shoe at 8am

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Re: Fans' Behaviour

Post by al_quaker » Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:51 pm

It was absolutely embarrassing today. It's not Fyldes fault that we have some scum who come to our big games, but I was surprised that alcohol was allowed on the terraces - clearly idiots who can drink all game are more likely to act on their basic, cavemen style instincts. Does not excuse their behaviour at all - they should be ashamed. But they won't be.

The photographers, credit to them, were taking plenty of pictures of the 2 groups who were causing the trouble. Hopefully this will lead to bans. I'm getting sick of our clubs name being tarnished - we as a fanbase have done remarkable things, but what are Fylde going to associate with Darlington? Today, and the actions of those idiots.

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Post by theoriginalfatcat » Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:57 pm

Darlogramps wrote:The problem is not Fylde serving alcohol. It's the fans not taking responsibility. If it's at a point where clubs can't serve alcohol to grown men, that is a damning indictment.
They're not fans though.......ask any of them to name one Darlo player and they would struggle. They were after a booze up and a punch up, a lot of the time they weren't even bothering to watch the game - what exactly do you need to do to get arrested or thrown out of a football match anyway?
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Re: Fans' Behaviour

Post by loan_star » Sat Apr 01, 2017 9:01 pm

Darlogramps wrote: Always someone else's fault, isn't it loan_star? I presume you'll also say their goalkeeper antagonised the fans.

The problem is not Fylde serving alcohol. It's the fans not taking responsibility. If it's at a point where clubs can't serve alcohol to grown men, that is a damning indictment. Stop looking for excuses.
Give over. The plain fact of the matter is that if people are abusing the trust given them to act in an orderly manner then you don't keep supplying them with something that will only make things worse.
Nowhere have I said that the idiots who were causing bother were blameless and that it was all Fyldes fault for the trouble.
One thing for sure, you don't see bottles and pints being thrown over keepers at Blackwell because they would never get the chance to.

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Re: Fans' Behaviour

Post by carlodarlo » Sat Apr 01, 2017 9:14 pm

I often see people saying the days of the 80s have gone and people who watch other sports can bring alcoholic drinks into the stands, why can't we at football? Well today proved why. Absolutely shameful scenes by not one or two youngsters who had one to many, there was a good sized group of middle aged men in the corner of the stand that were an absolute disgrace. I turned up at Flyde and like many other comments I've seen was really impressed by what they have there. I had a pre match drink in their Bradley's bar which was the best bar in a football stadium that I've ever been in. I enjoyed being able to drink in the stand to be honest but from half time onwards things went sour.
I don't mind and expect the opposition keeper to be given a bit of stick but chants that he's a nonce/peado and bottles thrown at him is just ridiculous. I'm not surprised he celebrated infront of us when they scored their second. I don't blame Flyde one bit for what went on today, it was completely our fans fault and as others have said enough is enough. Bans need to be enforced, the culprits will all be on photos/videos. We will see what the next few days bring but if history is anything to go by I can see this just being swept under the rug again unfortunately.

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Re: Fans' Behaviour

Post by Darlogramps » Sat Apr 01, 2017 9:19 pm

loan_star wrote:
Darlogramps wrote: Always someone else's fault, isn't it loan_star? I presume you'll also say their goalkeeper antagonised the fans.

The problem is not Fylde serving alcohol. It's the fans not taking responsibility. If it's at a point where clubs can't serve alcohol to grown men, that is a damning indictment. Stop looking for excuses.
Give over. The plain fact of the matter is that if people are abusing the trust given them to act in an orderly manner then you don't keep supplying them with something that will only make things worse.
Nowhere have I said that the idiots who were causing bother were blameless and that it was all Fyldes fault for the trouble.
One thing for sure, you don't see bottles and pints being thrown over keepers at Blackwell because they would never get the chance to.
You're using it as a mitigating factor. No matter how much you bang on about it, the responsibility lies with the troublemakers. Apportioning any amount blame towards Fylde hands excuses to the troublemakers.

The majority who turned up looking to cause trouble would have done so regardless of whether booze was available. They have done on previous occasions. I'm sure at Salford, Droylsden, Scarborough and the rest, alcohol was not allowed through the game or on the terraces at all these grounds.

And they will have had plenty of booze before getting to the ground - we've already had testimony in this thread that people started early this morning.

Ultimately, we should be condemning the troublemakers and offering no excuses. They are responsible, not Fylde.
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