loan_star wrote:Darlogramps wrote:
Go on, just post this for the avoidance of all doubt: "There are no excuses or mitigation for the hooligans' behaviour." Just post it once and I'll go away.
I have even named one known troublemaker on here already. Have you? Would I do that if I was trying to defend what they do? Give your head a wobble.
I'm not going to give you the satisfaction of a straight answer when its blatantly obvious to everyone but you what my view is.
You are more concerned about your own personal perceived right to have a drink on the terrace watching football when there are people there who shouldn't be given that privilege. Yes the sensible ones miss out but thats a small price to pay if it helps keep a lid on things.
You've named one troublemaker. Whoopee! I've passed on pictures from yesterday. So we're both in the right.
It's a start but it's sad you're letting your personal squabble with me get in the way of condemning unequivocally the troublemakers. There's been some criticism but, in all seriousness, I do genuinely believe you think the alcohol thing is an excuse.
Petty bickering over that is doing neither of us any favours, we've made our points clear so let's call a truce.
I'll admit I've been winding you up (and quite easily I'll add) and actually, for all our bickering, we're on the same side in that we want to see these hooligans removed from our club.
As for drinking on the terraces, I think you might be getting crossed wires here. I've honestly never had a pint at a football ground. It wouldn't affect me in the slightest if alcohol was banned from every football ground. I think it would be a shame if the overwhelming majority of people had to lose out for the actions of a few, and I believe there are alternatives, like preventing these hooligans getting to the ground in the first place. But I can see the merits in some form of restriction of alcohol in order to prevent the situation escalating.
But then you can also argue we manage fine and there's no problem at 95% of away matches.
And I still don't think an alcohol ban at the ground would have made any difference yesterday. We both agree people would still have turned up drunk and caused problems.