I haven't had one. Would have thought it would go in one big mailing list as a bccpoppyfield wrote:Not got mine yet, anybody else still waiting?theoriginalfatcat wrote:Now there's been a statement sent out by email from Wayne to supporters group members.
The wheels are spinning.
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Not got mine either, but I rarely get these mailchimp things. I'm sure it'll be on the website before too long.poppyfield wrote:Not got mine yet, anybody else still waiting?theoriginalfatcat wrote:Now there's been a statement sent out by email from Wayne to supporters group members.
The wheels are spinning.
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But is your friend genuine!SwansQuaker83 wrote:Friend of mine knows and works for Upshall and says he's genuine. He also said he hadn't given up on the BM project but whilst he was committed to the small ground for us and DRFC that's as far as it went. In other words it was BM he wanted not Darlo, although whether that's changed who knowsMr_Tibbs wrote:I was only joking. Actually, of the two, I'd much prefer it to be Paul Wildes. Richard Upshall strikes me as a bit too self-centred for my liking. A big netball fan, as I recall. Maybe I just don't like the sound of Dubai-based owners. Pools know a lot about that sort of thing.SwansQuaker83 wrote:InterestingMr_Tibbs wrote:I see your Richard Upshall and raise you Paul Wildes.SwansQuaker83 wrote:Wonder if Richard Upshall is involved. May have a plan for a scaled down version of his previous plans for BM.
Wildes struck me as more of a football man and his pitch was to include 2 fans members on a 5-person board of directors, with the supporters owning 40% of the club. Unfortunately his discussion with Singh broke down and off he went.
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Think the fall out occurred Friday evening. We are into the bridge building stage nowSpyman wrote:One thing is for sure, the one-upmanship in various statements needs to stop right away.
The last thing we need is the manager falling out with the board or the board of the supporters group.
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Considering the manager has been secretly courting investors without the knowledge of the board or the supporters club board do they not have a right to be a little annoyed? They are thinking of ways in which we can try and raise the money needed, no doubt with the pressure of us fan's hopes and expectations weighing on them, whilst all the time the manager has in the background secured this. Had they known about this, perhaps appropriate effort could have been directed into rules regarding promotion instead.
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Not with wording like the Supporters group used it hasn't.tezza wrote:Think the fall out occurred Friday evening. We are into the bridge building stage nowSpyman wrote:One thing is for sure, the one-upmanship in various statements needs to stop right away.
The last thing we need is the manager falling out with the board or the board of the supporters group.
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For any DFCSG members who didn't receive the email...
http://dfcsg.co.uk/?x=entry:entry170424-172623
http://dfcsg.co.uk/?x=entry:entry170424-172623
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[/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote]SwansQuaker83 wrote: But is your friend genuine!
Well he's a good mate of mine, so no
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Good that the investors whoever they are, have put in £10k into the fundraising, a fairly substantial contribution.
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May be wrong but I don't recall Gray stipulating it would be for 51%???
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HarryCharltonsCat wrote:Considering the manager has been secretly courting investors without the knowledge of the board or the supporters club board do they not have a right to be a little annoyed? They are thinking of ways in which we can try and raise the money needed, no doubt with the pressure of us fan's hopes and expectations weighing on them, whilst all the time the manager has in the background secured this. Had they known about this, perhaps appropriate effort could have been directed into rules regarding promotion instead.
Personally i think it should of been our board trying to court for investors not the manager. From what i got the jist of at the fans forum the board wanted a proceed slowly and take things one step at a time which is fair enough, we have come a long way im 5 years and we are at touching distance to where we want to be and if you ask any darlington fan about wanting a investor and trying to get back into the FL i bet 99% would agree
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He didSwansQuaker83 wrote:May be wrong but I don't recall Gray stipulating it would be for 51%???
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I stand corrected siral_quaker wrote:He didSwansQuaker83 wrote:May be wrong but I don't recall Gray stipulating it would be for 51%???
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To be fair, so much was said it was hard to take it all in.SwansQuaker83 wrote:I stand corrected siral_quaker wrote:He didSwansQuaker83 wrote:May be wrong but I don't recall Gray stipulating it would be for 51%???
I come away with the thought the investors wanted at least 51% of the club minimum.
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Yes easy to miss what with all the info and drama of Friday. I remember a question about whether 51% was a red line for an investor - can't remember the answer though!super_les_mcjannet wrote:To be fair, so much was said it was hard to take it all in.SwansQuaker83 wrote:I stand corrected siral_quaker wrote:He didSwansQuaker83 wrote:May be wrong but I don't recall Gray stipulating it would be for 51%???
I come away with the thought the investors wanted at least 51% of the club minimum.
Good to see that the mystery investor has come forwards today - time is needed to see if it is in our bets interests. The £10k investment is a good start too.
2 good statements from the club and SG - I fully understand the SG being annoyed at Gray's speech on Friday. Be interesting to see what comes from these discussions.
Also good to see the fundraising take off today too. Decent day all round - although looks like a big decision looming for DFCSG members.
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But quite correct. The fundraising announcement has been overshadowed by MG's statement.SwansQuaker83 wrote:Another professional statement I seeLoidLucan wrote:"Also at Friday’s forum we launched a very important fundraising drive but unfortunately it seems to have been completely overshadowed by Martin Gray’s opinions about a change of ownership."
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al_quaker wrote:He didSwansQuaker83 wrote:May be wrong but I don't recall Gray stipulating it would be for 51%???
Defo did. And when pressed again whether or not this could be negotiated down Gray paused then said no.
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. He mentiioned it but I suspect the main point is they would want majority shares.SwansQuaker83 wrote:May be wrong but I don't recall Gray stipulating it would be for 51%???
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I agree statement is correct, I don't personally see it as non-professional. it is a clear statement, that explains what happens next, and encourages us all to contribute to help the club.Allan Quatermain wrote:But quite correct. The fundraising announcement has been overshadowed by MG's statement.SwansQuaker83 wrote:Another professional statement I seeLoidLucan wrote:"Also at Friday’s forum we launched a very important fundraising drive but unfortunately it seems to have been completely overshadowed by Martin Gray’s opinions about a change of ownership."
Ouch!
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My head may still be a little groggy from the past weeks events, and I may have missed something.
"Darlington FC Supporters Group launch £193,000 fundraising drive"
1) Pitch and drainage: £42,000 by 15th May 2017.
2) 224 additional covered seats: £150,000. This will be split into 3 parts:
•a) Ground works to enable the construction – £50,000 by 31st July 2017
•b) Erection of steelworks and cladding – £50,000 by 30th September 2017
•c) Purchase of seating deck – £50,000 by 31st December 2017
Pitch 1 "Pitch & Drainage" is operational
Pitch 2 "224 additional covered seats" I assume that we will shortly have details on the extension on the previous community share issue to raise the staged £150k required. Given the importance and recent emotion surrounding this particular issue , I would have thought as it is a major hurdle to progress there would be a as much if not more importance to getting this flowing than pitch 3
Pitch 3 "boost the budget" operational,however not part of the original £193k
So in essence and putting aside private investment , as things stand we the fans really need to come up with £272k by the 31st December 2017.
Is that achievable without significant private capital investment.?
"Darlington FC Supporters Group launch £193,000 fundraising drive"
1) Pitch and drainage: £42,000 by 15th May 2017.
2) 224 additional covered seats: £150,000. This will be split into 3 parts:
•a) Ground works to enable the construction – £50,000 by 31st July 2017
•b) Erection of steelworks and cladding – £50,000 by 30th September 2017
•c) Purchase of seating deck – £50,000 by 31st December 2017
Pitch 1 "Pitch & Drainage" is operational
Pitch 2 "224 additional covered seats" I assume that we will shortly have details on the extension on the previous community share issue to raise the staged £150k required. Given the importance and recent emotion surrounding this particular issue , I would have thought as it is a major hurdle to progress there would be a as much if not more importance to getting this flowing than pitch 3
Pitch 3 "boost the budget" operational,however not part of the original £193k
So in essence and putting aside private investment , as things stand we the fans really need to come up with £272k by the 31st December 2017.
Is that achievable without significant private capital investment.?
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Not quite. As things stand we the fans need to raise £192k by December 2017.tezza wrote:So in essence and putting aside private investment , as things stand we the fans really need to come up with £272k by the 31st December 2017.
Is that achievable without significant private capital investment.?
There was talk of identifying a sponsor for the 'new' stand. I suppose even if that is £5k per annum it is something - have we already given up the naming rights to the Tin Shed for that matter can't remember?
The thing with boost the budget is that it is an on going commitment. By December 2017 we will look to have found 500 people prepared to donate £4 per week / £8 per fortnight / £15 per month. If we don't then I suppose strictly speaking the playing budget is cut by the difference.
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lo36789 wrote:Not quite. As things stand we the fans need to raise £192k by December 2017.tezza wrote:So in essence and putting aside private investment , as things stand we the fans really need to come up with £272k by the 31st December 2017.
Is that achievable without significant private capital investment.?
There was talk of identifying a sponsor for the 'new' stand. I suppose even if that is £5k per annum it is something - have we already given up the naming rights to the Tin Shed for that matter can't remember?
The thing with boost the budget is that it is an on going commitment. By December 2017 we will look to have found 500 people prepared to donate £4 per week / £8 per fortnight / £15 per month. If we don't then I suppose strictly speaking the playing budget is cut by the difference.
Yes I take your point in regard to the "boost the budget" aspect, however I think , even you would agree DFCSG have it in mind to have that element closed off well before 31st December. What I find weird is that given the emotion, disappointment of the whole seats issue, which you could argue accelerated us to where we are now, has not yet got any traction. Which forgive me was failure to act not one of the criticisms aimed at the board on this forum and at the fans forum
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I don't know what you mean? If you mean failure to act in terms of fans I probably agree...if you mean the board haven't acted then I don't really know what they could have done differently given circumstances.
I actually expect that the reality is the same individuals have put pledges into both pots, but on a best case scenario 98 people have parted with any money. I guess I thought the noise was being made by more the that many people in the run up to and during the fans forum.
I actually expect that the reality is the same individuals have put pledges into both pots, but on a best case scenario 98 people have parted with any money. I guess I thought the noise was being made by more the that many people in the run up to and during the fans forum.
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Leave it, I have no intention of entering into qualification of every sentence or thought with you. You remain as ever irritating and boring to the last.
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I think the situation is such that if we don't boost the budget then we probably won't need the extra seats as our squad will be nowhere near the playoffs
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Don't know what you mean? Boost the budget has to be sorted in next 96 days - so by the new season.
The pitch has to be done in 20 days. there is a clearly schedule around the fundraising and when it will be done by?
Are you suggesting they just put a £193k fund up and wait for that to come in - because remember they can't take pledges until the full amount has been pledged.
The pitch has to be done in 20 days. there is a clearly schedule around the fundraising and when it will be done by?
Are you suggesting they just put a £193k fund up and wait for that to come in - because remember they can't take pledges until the full amount has been pledged.
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Gray wants it sorted in 2 weeks according to his post match interview today
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That`s fine by me the sooner the better hope the votes not when I`m on holiday thoughal_quaker wrote:Gray wants it sorted in 2 weeks according to his post match interview today
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When do we find out who the investors are? Presumably within the next two weeks?
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You'd imagine so - will certainly be an interesting few weeks.The Golden Hairclip wrote:When do we find out who the investors are? Presumably within the next two weeks?
I hope that this timescale isn't another surprise from MG to the supporters group.