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Re: Reserves

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:28 pm
by Vodka_Vic
I think it would be fun having a team in the Northern League again. We should set up a pitch to raise money to bring Eastbourne up to scratch. Spyman, I reckon you should chuck the first hundred in.
Also, to get round the reserves rule, surely we could just change our name to Darlington Eastbourne or something?

Re: Reserves

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:38 pm
by Darlogramps
Vodka_Vic wrote:I think it would be fun having a team in the Northern League again. We should set up a pitch to raise money to bring Eastbourne up to scratch. Spyman, I reckon you should chuck the first hundred in.
Also, to get round the reserves rule, surely we could just change our name to Darlington Eastbourne or something?
What about Darlington 1883?

Re: Reserves

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:52 pm
by Vodka_Vic
Darlogramps wrote:
Vodka_Vic wrote:I think it would be fun having a team in the Northern League again. We should set up a pitch to raise money to bring Eastbourne up to scratch. Spyman, I reckon you should chuck the first hundred in.
Also, to get round the reserves rule, surely we could just change our name to Darlington Eastbourne or something?
What about Darlington 1883?
That would get the chairmen going!

Re: Reserves

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:59 pm
by Spyman
Vodka_Vic wrote:I think it would be fun having a team in the Northern League again. We should set up a pitch to raise money to bring Eastbourne up to scratch. Spyman, I reckon you should chuck the first hundred in.
Also, to get round the reserves rule, surely we could just change our name to Darlington Eastbourne or something?
How about Martin Gray's Vanity Project FC?

or

We'll piss this Tinpot League (again) FC

Do you think we could break our own Northern League points record? It'd be almost worth signing a whole new squad of players just to piss on that league again.

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Re: Reserves

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:02 pm
by Vodka_Vic
Be careful what you wish for Spyman. If our reserves get promoted then our squad players will demand higher wages just for playing in the Northern League, don't you know!
I'm quite enjoying this thread now. Who can think of the best name to change Darlington Reserves to?

Re: Reserves

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:16 pm
by poppyfield
What if we get drawn in the same cup game? At least one Darlo team would get through to the next round :lol:

Re: Reserves

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:30 pm
by Vodka_Vic
Great chance to win the FA Vase. Play lots of first teamers, and the Northern League would give us 2 weeks off before every round and extend our season until June.

Re: Reserves

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:32 pm
by Darlogramps
poppyfield wrote:What if we get drawn in the same cup game? At least one Darlo team would get through to the next round Image
Knowing our luck, the winning Darlo side would field an ineligible player and get kicked out.

Re: Reserves

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:28 pm
by spen666
Spyman wrote: ....But the 'reserves' would be made up of Conference North (or even National) players on Conference North (or National) wages who just weren't getting a game for us for whatever reason, and players from our U21s or whatever we call them.

We wouldn't be signing a new set of players for the season in the Northern League. We'd be playing already-too-good-for-that-level players in the Northern League (a bit like last time Darlington were in the Northern League, incidentally), who are already on our books.

You think U21 players will choose to play for nothing when another side are offering them say £50 a week?

Some may, but the majority of players would move for the money.

Hence to retain players you will need to pay wages to comparable standards as the league you are in.

If you want to blind yourself to the simple financial facts about football, then carry on.

It is a simple fact of football that the higher up the pyramid you go, the higher the costs are. v


As well as the players, you need suitable coaching staff and again they are unlikely to work for nothing when someone else will pay them to do the same thing.

Re: Reserves

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:46 pm
by Vodka_Vic
But they'll be Darlington FC players who will be pushing for the first team.

Re: Reserves

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:52 pm
by Darlogramps
spen666 wrote:
Spyman wrote: ....But the 'reserves' would be made up of Conference North (or even National) players on Conference North (or National) wages who just weren't getting a game for us for whatever reason, and players from our U21s or whatever we call them.

We wouldn't be signing a new set of players for the season in the Northern League. We'd be playing already-too-good-for-that-level players in the Northern League (a bit like last time Darlington were in the Northern League, incidentally), who are already on our books.

You think U21 players will choose to play for nothing when another side are offering them say £50 a week?

Some may, but the majority of players would move for the money.

Hence to retain players you will need to pay wages to comparable standards as the league you are in.

If you want to blind yourself to the simple financial facts about football, then carry on.

It is a simple fact of football that the higher up the pyramid you go, the higher the costs are. v


As well as the players, you need suitable coaching staff and again they are unlikely to work for nothing when someone else will pay them to do the same thing.
Oh you are so boring with your faux passive aggressive outrage.

Keep your wig on baldy and join in the fun.

Re: Reserves

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:53 pm
by Henley
spen666 wrote:
Spyman wrote: ....But the 'reserves' would be made up of Conference North (or even National) players on Conference North (or National) wages who just weren't getting a game for us for whatever reason, and players from our U21s or whatever we call them.

We wouldn't be signing a new set of players for the season in the Northern League. We'd be playing already-too-good-for-that-level players in the Northern League (a bit like last time Darlington were in the Northern League, incidentally), who are already on our books.

You think U21 players will choose to play for nothing when another side are offering them say £50 a week?

Some may, but the majority of players would move for the money.

Hence to retain players you will need to pay wages to comparable standards as the league you are in.

If you want to blind yourself to the simple financial facts about football, then carry on.

It is a simple fact of football that the higher up the pyramid you go, the higher the costs are. v


As well as the players, you need suitable coaching staff and again they are unlikely to work for nothing when someone else will pay them to do the same thing.
Fourking Hell - how can someone be this stupid?

Re: Reserves

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:59 pm
by Vodka_Vic
Spen, just honestly answer this question. Do you know how a reserve team is run? For a self-confessed genius you are showing that you don't know the difference between a standard club and a reserve team. Your points would be very valid - if we weren't talking about a reserve team. But I'm afraid we are.

Re: Reserves

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:01 pm
by Henley
Vodka_Vic wrote:Spen, just honestly answer this question. Do you know how a reserve team is run?
It's no use - we're way past the Blackadder teaching Baldrick to count stage now.

Re: Reserves

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:11 pm
by Darlogramps
Henley wrote:
Vodka_Vic wrote:Spen, just honestly answer this question. Do you know how a reserve team is run?
It's no use - we're way past the Blackadder teaching Baldrick to count stage now.

VodkaVic - "Now Spen - I have 18 reserve team players. Now if I add two more, what do I have?"

Spen - "Some beans"

Re: Reserves

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:02 pm
by Spyman
You'd think Spen, being a Spennymoor fan, would grasp the concept of a team made up of players not good enough to get in Darlos first team.

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Re: Reserves

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:54 pm
by don'tbuythesun
I feel let down, disillusioned and disappointed. I have always thought of Spen as highly knowledgeable and looked up to him with his astonishing grasp of all things legal. And now he's ruined it. Gutted.

Re: Reserves

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:58 pm
by theoriginalfatcat
On reading through this thread for the first time just now (entertaining as it is) it would seem that the more Spen hammers out his case, the weaker it gets.

I hope this doesn't apply to his legal work!

Re: Reserves

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:41 pm
by Darlo_Pete
At least if we go bust again, we'd have a team already in a league and wouldn't need to start from scratch!! I'll get my coat.

Re: Reserves

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:50 pm
by Quakerz
Darlo_Pete wrote:At least if we go bust again.
Are you taking the piss?

We have never been bust, and are the same club we have always been since our formation in 1883.

Re: Reserves

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:31 am
by Spyman
Quakerz wrote:
Darlo_Pete wrote:At least if we go bust again.
Are you taking the piss?

We have never been bust, and are the same club we have always been since our formation in 1883.
And if we were to go bust, surely the reserve team would go too?

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Re: Reserves

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 6:53 am
by Darlo_Pete
Quakerz wrote:
Darlo_Pete wrote:At least if we go bust again.
Are you taking the piss?

We have never been bust, and are the same club we have always been since our formation in 1883.
Of course I was, thought you knew me better than that Paul.

Re: Reserves

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:59 am
by Vodka_Vic
Spen will be back on in a minute arguing that legally we did go bust.

Re: Reserves

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:11 am
by Spyman
spen666 wrote:
It is a simple fact of football that the higher up the pyramid you go, the higher the costs are. v

As well as the players, you need suitable coaching staff and again they are unlikely to work for nothing when someone else will pay them to do the same thing.
But we are already higher up the pyramid than the Northern League. These players are already on our books, earning whatever they earn to be part of a Conference North squad.

If we use your logic, we'll probably save money by asking them to turn out for a team lower down the pyramid. :crazy:

Re: Reserves

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:15 am
by Henley
Spyman wrote: But we are already higher up the pyramid than the Northern League. These players are already on our books, earning whatever they earn to be part of a Conference North squad.

If we use your logic, we'll probably save money by asking them to turn out for a team lower down the pyramid. :crazy:
It'd be unbelievable that this would need explaining to a school kid nevermind a supposed lawyer.