Re: Martin Gray
Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 7:39 pm
The 59 post thread about Martin Gray - where he gets mentioned twice.
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Are you saying that Swansea are a fans run club?.. And that they had no money ?SwansQuaker83 wrote:Apart from the NL North bit, all that's wrong.My opinion wrote:The difference of course is that Swansea were not a fans run club in the National league north with no money......But yeah you have seen it happenSwansQuaker83 wrote:I follow Swansea mate, I've seen that happen...lo36789 wrote:And we could be in the Premier League in 2022 by your logic. We'd best get funding for a 10,000 capacity all seater stadium. I do hope nobody has overlooked what ground grading requirements are for the Champions League.
Yes, i'm pretty sure two seated stands are required.Quakerz wrote:Do they?SwansQuaker83 wrote: and don't forget the seats need to be across two different sides?
You have misread the rules.H1987 wrote:Yes, i'm pretty sure two seated stands are required.Quakerz wrote:Do they?SwansQuaker83 wrote: and don't forget the seats need to be across two different sides?
The obvious solution to that would be to move the dugouts to the other side of the pitch, alter the existing seating to four rows at the clubhouse so it counts to capacity. It'd also mean the stand on the other side wouldn't need to be quite so deep if you can get 250 ish at the clubhouse.
Anyway, as said there just needs to be a plan. The current seated stand being so shallow isn't the best.
At the start we were yes... when the fans bought the club from Tony Petty... and even after Petty had gone, we nearly went bust as a fan owned club. It was then structured differently with fans (who happened to have money) came in, but right at the start we competed in League 2 (then Division 3) as a fan owned club.My opinion wrote:Are you saying that Swansea are a fans run club?.. And that they had no money ?SwansQuaker83 wrote:Apart from the NL North bit, all that's wrong.My opinion wrote:The difference of course is that Swansea were not a fans run club in the National league north with no money......But yeah you have seen it happenSwansQuaker83 wrote:I follow Swansea mate, I've seen that happen...lo36789 wrote:And we could be in the Premier League in 2022 by your logic. We'd best get funding for a 10,000 capacity all seater stadium. I do hope nobody has overlooked what ground grading requirements are for the Champions League.
Yeah, 10 years is like 100 in football... saying that Swansea's fan base (or potential fanbase) was far bigger than Darlo's... with nobody but Crapdiff around us to compete with.don'tbuythesun wrote:I remember watching Swansea at Southport and look at where they both are now!
Must have been a heartbreaking time.SwansQuaker83 wrote:At the start we were yes... when the fans bought the club from Tony Petty... and even after Petty had gone, we nearly went bust as a fan owned club. It was then structured differently with fans (who happened to have money) came in, but right at the start we competed in League 2 (then Division 3) as a fan owned club.
Under Petty it was bad... he tried to sell all our players, and anything else that wasn't nailed down... before the North Bank Alliance exposed everything...darlo2001uk wrote:Must have been a heartbreaking time.SwansQuaker83 wrote:At the start we were yes... when the fans bought the club from Tony Petty... and even after Petty had gone, we nearly went bust as a fan owned club. It was then structured differently with fans (who happened to have money) came in, but right at the start we competed in League 2 (then Division 3) as a fan owned club.
We only need external investment to meet the expectations of Martin Gray and a section of our fanbase.tezza wrote:Likewise. The harm he inflicted is having consequences now.
I do not question we need external investment, however, the way he did what he did was simply wrong.
It showed an arrogance and disregard for all the effort and investment from the fan base over the last few years.
I have put my share into all of the pitches and additional, but i am damned if i will contribute to a playing budget supplement. Doing so , in my opinion only encourages his arrogance further
Time to move on from that night, we have to look forward not back and stay positive.Cannot see the point in digging all this up again.tezza wrote:Likewise. The harm he inflicted is having consequences now.
I do not question we need external investment, however, the way he did what he did was simply wrong.
It showed an arrogance and disregard for all the effort and investment from the fan base over the last few years.
I have put my share into all of the pitches and additional, but i am damned if i will contribute to a playing budget supplement. Doing so , in my opinion only encourages his arrogance further
My issue isn't standing still, my issue is manager throwing a strop to get his budget increased, fans putting 42k into it when gambling on the fact that we raise the money for the seats.Vodka_Vic wrote:I guess things will get easier after we have raised funds and extended that bloody stand, and when the 500 club has come to an end. When the 5 year season tickets are over, that should net us somewhere in the region of 100k per annum shouldn't it? (I'm basing this on 400 ST x£250 per ST). We could then use half to improve ground per year ,terracing etc. Or put in the pot if we do gain promotion and half for the Budget. Trouble is, this is nearly 2 years away and it appears some people are unwilling to 'stand still' as they see it. In my view, we are not standing still though. Each year should see an improvement in financial turnover and infrastructure.
The "boost the budget" fund was an appeasement for MG.shawry wrote:My issue isn't standing still, my issue is manager throwing a strop to get his budget increased, fans putting 42k into it when gambling on the fact that we raise the money for the seats.Vodka_Vic wrote:I guess things will get easier after we have raised funds and extended that bloody stand, and when the 500 club has come to an end. When the 5 year season tickets are over, that should net us somewhere in the region of 100k per annum shouldn't it? (I'm basing this on 400 ST x£250 per ST). We could then use half to improve ground per year ,terracing etc. Or put in the pot if we do gain promotion and half for the Budget. Trouble is, this is nearly 2 years away and it appears some people are unwilling to 'stand still' as they see it. In my view, we are not standing still though. Each year should see an improvement in financial turnover and infrastructure.
The seats should have been the focus 100% we shouldn't have chanced our arm, yes we may well pull it off but I don't see how anyone can think it was a sensible use of money.
I'd rather the ticket increase was used to fund the seats too rather than the budget, I feel this has just been another financial screw up by the club...we can't seem to go a season without having one
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Were you expecting an improvement in playing standard because we raised money for boost the budget?tezza wrote:
The "boost the budget" fund was an appeasement for MG.
We should not even have considered that avenue until we had concluded the other funds. They offered certainty over the gamble of the "boost the budget" Accepting that only a part of this was raised, from where I sit I see no real progress in the playing standard.
Opening this appeal was a real mistake, had we not done so, we would not now be in a scramble to make it over the finishing line.
Were you expecting an improvement in playing standard because we raised money for boost the budget?super_les_mcjannet wrote:tezza wrote:
The "boost the budget" fund was an appeasement for MG.
We should not even have considered that avenue until we had concluded the other funds. They offered certainty over the gamble of the "boost the budget" Accepting that only a part of this was raised, from where I sit I see no real progress in the playing standard.
Opening this appeal was a real mistake, had we not done so, we would not now be in a scramble to make it over the finishing line.