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Wheatley
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:31 pm
by quakerste
Man of the match tonight by a distance. After watching him in pre season you could see he had something about him, can't believe it has taken him this long to break into the team.
Could form a good partnership with Turnbull and will become a valuable asset in my opinion.
Re: Wheatley
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:39 pm
by Carl Airey
Agree completely. He ran the show in that second half and thoroughly deserved his goal!!
Re: Wheatley
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:46 pm
by Darlo_Pete
Looks a great player and took his goal really well.
Re: Wheatley
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:52 pm
by al_quaker
He was outstanding in the second half. Not sure how he didn't win man of the match. He's very comfortable on the ball, drives forwards with it, and isn't afraid to put himself about either. He was at his best when the game opened up and he was running forwards. Gave us another dimension.
Looking forwards to seeing how he develops. Him and Vaulks both look like good talents.
Re: Wheatley
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:26 pm
by Darlogramps
I actually thought he was fairly anonymous in the first half, but was magnificent in the 2nd.
Syers coming on and the switch to 3 in midfield really changed things from our perspective.
With Cartman cup-tied I wonder if we'll stick with 3 in midfield which worked well in the 2nd half, or if Gray will revert to 4-4-2.
Re: Wheatley
Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:19 pm
by theoriginalfatcat
We played so much better with only ten men. Perhaps that's the answer.
Re: Wheatley
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 1:46 pm
by jjljks
Can't understand why FCUM was his debut, unless he was our 'secret' weapon to save our season. Now the covers are off, hope we see a lot more of him in the first team as he looks to be a real asset.
Re: Wheatley
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:36 pm
by Spyman
Maybe he wasn't match fit? Had he been playing in the reserves?
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Re: Wheatley
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:10 pm
by super_les_mcjannet
jjljks wrote:Can't understand why FCUM was his debut, unless he was our 'secret' weapon to save our season. Now the covers are off, hope we see a lot more of him in the first team as he looks to be a real asset.
His debut was against North Ferriby where he came on and looked decent enough without over excelling.
He has energy, passes and moves whilst being reasonably comfortable on the ball. We could have a good one here, hopefully he plays tomorrow (as no reason not to) but let's see how he develops over the season.
Him and Portas play that similar role so it's an interesting one this season, I would be tempted with a midfield 4 of Ferguson, Turnbull, Wheatley and Syers tomorrow. Means we are missing a real wide right player but could work, in terms of bulking up the midfield and hopeful increase the opportunity to play through teams which many would like to see more of us and a little less direct.
Who knows what Gray will do though, he has the Burgess scenario to resolve tomorrow, to play or not to play.
Re: Wheatley
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:26 pm
by lo36789
super_les_mcjannet wrote:Who knows what Gray will do though, he has the Burgess scenario to resolve tomorrow, to play or not to play.
Be surprised if we don't appeal Burgess red card tbh.
Re: Wheatley
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:34 pm
by bga
lo36789 wrote:super_les_mcjannet wrote:Who knows what Gray will do though, he has the Burgess scenario to resolve tomorrow, to play or not to play.
Be surprised if we don't appeal Burgess red card tbh.
Why it looked bad on the highlights, and MG said it was a straight red!
Re: Wheatley
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:36 pm
by LoidLucan
Lo, that's meant to be a joke, right?
Re: Wheatley
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:42 pm
by super_les_mcjannet
lo36789 wrote:super_les_mcjannet wrote:Who knows what Gray will do though, he has the Burgess scenario to resolve tomorrow, to play or not to play.
Be surprised if we don't appeal Burgess red card tbh.
Can't see anyway we would win an appeal and I guess his suspension will kick in on Wednesday next week 7 days after sending off.
Re: Wheatley
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:50 pm
by bga
super_les_mcjannet wrote:jjljks wrote:Can't understand why FCUM was his debut, unless he was our 'secret' weapon to save our season. Now the covers are off, hope we see a lot more of him in the first team as he looks to be a real asset.
His debut was against North Ferriby where he came on and looked decent enough without over excelling.
He has energy, passes and moves whilst being reasonably comfortable on the ball. We could have a good one here, hopefully he plays tomorrow (as no reason not to) but let's see how he develops over the season.
Him and Portas play that similar role so it's an interesting one this season, I would be tempted with a midfield 4 of Ferguson, Turnbull, Wheatley and Syers tomorrow. Means we a re missing a real wide right player but could work, in terms of bulking up the midfield and hopeful increase the opportunity to play through teams which many would like to see more of us and a little less direct.
Who knows what Gray will do though, he has the Burgess scenario to resolve tomorrow, to play or not to play.
Re Burgess it is a difficult one for MG. He said a couple of games ago KB should not be playing but still selected him last Wednesday when he could have played Vaulks. So does he now play Vaulks and take a risk he could get injured, or keep him fresh for when KB's ban starts? I think he should put out his strongest team so if KB is not yet match fit go for Vaulks surely?
Re: Wheatley
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:54 pm
by m62exile
lo36789 wrote:super_les_mcjannet wrote:Who knows what Gray will do though, he has the Burgess scenario to resolve tomorrow, to play or not to play.
Be surprised if we don't appeal Burgess red card tbh.
On what grounds?
Re: Wheatley
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:04 pm
by Spyman
Go with Burgess - if Vaulks were to get injured we'd be in trouble while Burgess is suspended.
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Re: Wheatley
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:05 pm
by lo36789
The highlights show it was a yellow at most. Slightly reckless but definitely not Serious Foul Play. His feet were down he was pulling out. If his right foot had been straight / up then yeh maybe. They're player didn't deserve second yellow mind either for the pen so things even out.
Re: Wheatley
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:34 pm
by m62exile
lo36789 wrote:The highlights show it was a yellow at most. Slightly reckless but definitely not Serious Foul Play. His feet were down he was pulling out. If his right foot had been straight / up then yeh maybe. They're player didn't deserve second yellow mind either for the pen so things even out.
Think it probably looked and sounded a touch worse on the night. Seeing as MG said afterwards he thought it was a red (least I think he did) I think that’s the end of it.
Re: Wheatley
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:54 pm
by Vodka_Vic
Think Lo is a referee, so is most likely to read the situation correctly.
Re: Wheatley
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:24 pm
by super_les_mcjannet
Vodka_Vic wrote:Think Lo is a referee, so is most likely to read the situation correctly.
So was the referee who sent him off though
This is the thing even referees can interpret things slightly different, was it a reckless challenge or just poorly timed.
I can't see Gray taking a chance and appealing to be honest but who knows.
Re: Wheatley
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:25 pm
by darlo reborn
Think at this level it`s not worth appealing
Re: Wheatley
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:41 pm
by LoidLucan
Most people in the ground thought it was a sending off, MG (fairly close to the incident) thought it was the right decision, the ref (who was about two yards away) clearly thought it merited a red but one person who saw the highlights believes it's worth appealing (and seems to be on his own in that view) ... there's a pattern emerging here on whether an appeal would be a sensible way forward.
Re: Wheatley
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:52 pm
by allertonquaker
An appeal would be a waste of everyones time and effort ....Red Card, move on.
Re: Wheatley
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:00 pm
by lo36789
Perspectives are interesting must admit - quite intriguing in week following the controversy in PL last weekend.
Re: Wheatley
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:10 pm
by al_quaker
At the time I thought it was a definite red card, but having watched Kev's (superb) highlights I'm not so sure. It was certainly very late, but it was a shin on shin collision. No studs were involved and Burgess didn't leap off the ground. Definite yellow, possible red, but not as clear cut as I first thought. Not sure it'd be worth an appeal though (I didn't even know you could at this level?!)
Re: Wheatley
Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:07 pm
by liddle_4_ever
I agree I thought what a stupid thing to do, but on the highlights it doesn't look like a red card to me.
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