York City
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:58 pm
Just been on Look North that their chairman is only willing to provide the £1 million they need to stay afloat if the supporters trust hand over their 25% stake in the club.
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I'd definitely say they were in trouble, regardless of whether the Trust hands over the 25% that they own.Emdubya wrote:So not in trouble yet then.
No, you just hope they are.Darlo_Pete wrote:I'd definitely say they were in trouble, regardless of whether the Trust hands over the 25% that they own.Emdubya wrote:So not in trouble yet then.
Add Connor Brown to that list plus one more this week in addition to Pattison which would make NINE....my god if he fails to get them promoted with that budget he may as well pack in.AndyPark wrote:Since MG took over, he's brought in Adam Bartlett, David Ferguson, Daniel Rowe, Alex Pattison, Jonny Burn, James Gray, Raul Correia.
5 of those have all played for Darlington.
To be fair 3 of those are loans.QUAKERMAN2 wrote:Add Connor Brown to that list plus one more this week in addition to Pattison which would make NINE....my god if he fails to get them promoted with that budget he may as well pack in.AndyPark wrote:Since MG took over, he's brought in Adam Bartlett, David Ferguson, Daniel Rowe, Alex Pattison, Jonny Burn, James Gray, Raul Correia.
5 of those have all played for Darlington.
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In the same time Tommy has brought in 9 in Mills, Trotman, Styche, Talbot, Pears, Heaton, O’Hanlon and two youth players in Glover and Parral. Albeit some are forced due to the York signings and the keeper situation but we have had a similar amount of in and outs at the same time.lo36789 wrote:To be fair 3 of those are loans.QUAKERMAN2 wrote:Add Connor Brown to that list plus one more this week in addition to Pattison which would make NINE....my god if he fails to get them promoted with that budget he may as well pack in.AndyPark wrote:Since MG took over, he's brought in Adam Bartlett, David Ferguson, Daniel Rowe, Alex Pattison, Jonny Burn, James Gray, Raul Correia.
5 of those have all played for Darlington.
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Yes but he lost 4 senior players plus our keeper was sent off and replaced by Pears and you cannot really include the young 16 year old kid.Silly to compare our signings with those at York.DFCAnth wrote:In the same time Tommy has brought in 9 in Mills, Trotman, Styche, Talbot, Pears, Heaton, O’Hanlon and two youth players in Glover and Parral. Albeit some are forced due to the York signings and the keeper situation but we have had a similar amount of in and outs at the same time.lo36789 wrote:To be fair 3 of those are loans.QUAKERMAN2 wrote:Add Connor Brown to that list plus one more this week in addition to Pattison which would make NINE....my god if he fails to get them promoted with that budget he may as well pack in.AndyPark wrote:Since MG took over, he's brought in Adam Bartlett, David Ferguson, Daniel Rowe, Alex Pattison, Jonny Burn, James Gray, Raul Correia.
5 of those have all played for Darlington.
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Not saying that ours will be of the equivalent £££ but worth pointing out.
Ron, why can't you include youth signings? The MG Obsessives would be doing so if York had done the same.QUAKERMAN2 wrote:Yes but he lost 4 senior players plus our keeper was sent off and replaced by Pears and you cannot really include the young 16 year old kid.Silly to compare our signings with those at York.DFCAnth wrote:
In the same time Tommy has brought in 9 in Mills, Trotman, Styche, Talbot, Pears, Heaton, O’Hanlon and two youth players in Glover and Parral. Albeit some are forced due to the York signings and the keeper situation but we have had a similar amount of in and outs at the same time.
Not saying that ours will be of the equivalent £££ but worth pointing out.
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I think that this is exactly the time he could walk away. He owns Bootham Crescent, the imminent sale of which will just about clear the Football Club's debts to his business (which are increasing daily). I make this assumption based on freely available information about his business's loans to YCFC on Companies House versus valuations for Bootham Crescent which have been published in the media.divas wrote:There’s no way McGill would walk away now with the new stadium and the additional associated revenue coming along, especially as it’s finally started. Be interesting to see if the Trust try and call his bluff on that basis.
Thinking about it, perhaps it would be a good time for the Trust to ask him for his shares. Although a shortfall between the proceeds of Bootham Crescent and his loans would scupper that.wizardofos wrote:I think that this is exactly the time he could walk away. He owns Bootham Crescent, the imminent sale of which will just about clear the Football Club's debts to his business (which are increasing daily). I make this assumption based on freely available information about his business's loans to YCFC on Companies House versus valuations for Bootham Crescent which have been published in the media.divas wrote:There’s no way McGill would walk away now with the new stadium and the additional associated revenue coming along, especially as it’s finally started. Be interesting to see if the Trust try and call his bluff on that basis.
Regarding the future for YCFC at the new stadium (which they don't own) - how bright that is depends on what rent they are paying and what share they get of the revenue streams along with all the other interested parties.
That's not practical though, when they are losing so much per week. There is no way the trust could meet the shortfall, without probably ditching the manager, losing loads of playing staff and going part time.wizardofos wrote:Thinking about it, perhaps it would be a good time for the Trust to ask him for his shares. Although a shortfall between the proceeds of Bootham Crescent and his loans would scupper that.wizardofos wrote:I think that this is exactly the time he could walk away. He owns Bootham Crescent, the imminent sale of which will just about clear the Football Club's debts to his business (which are increasing daily). I make this assumption based on freely available information about his business's loans to YCFC on Companies House versus valuations for Bootham Crescent which have been published in the media.divas wrote:There’s no way McGill would walk away now with the new stadium and the additional associated revenue coming along, especially as it’s finally started. Be interesting to see if the Trust try and call his bluff on that basis.
Regarding the future for YCFC at the new stadium (which they don't own) - how bright that is depends on what rent they are paying and what share they get of the revenue streams along with all the other interested parties.
Point taken Gramps.Darlogramps wrote:Ron, why can't you include youth signings? The MG Obsessives would be doing so if York had done the same.QUAKERMAN2 wrote:Yes but he lost 4 senior players plus our keeper was sent off and replaced by Pears and you cannot really include the young 16 year old kid.Silly to compare our signings with those at York.DFCAnth wrote:
In the same time Tommy has brought in 9 in Mills, Trotman, Styche, Talbot, Pears, Heaton, O’Hanlon and two youth players in Glover and Parral. Albeit some are forced due to the York signings and the keeper situation but we have had a similar amount of in and outs at the same time.
Not saying that ours will be of the equivalent £££ but worth pointing out.
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"He's even signing teenagers he doesn't need!" would be the cry.
And are you saying York haven't had injuries, suspensions or departures of their own? Because that would be incorrect also.
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Or perhaps MG had learned his lesson about speaking to the real fans?Darlo_Pete wrote:That was a very interesting article, surprised that their manager didn't attend and left it to David Penney to represent the management.
dfc4me wrote:Seems to me the only reason for wanting 100% control is because he is planning something he doesn't want to become public knowledge, maybe connected to the sale of Bootham Crescent.
QUAKERMAN2 wrote: Silly to compare our signings with those at York.
Interesting article with some scary figures contained!jjljks wrote:Something familiar with the York City scenario which reminds me of another club who left a traditional town centre stadium, had a backer with mega ambitions, lost the footballing share, got asset stripped and ran up massive debts by not managing their budget against falling gates.
Not sure how that turned out, perhaps Martin Gray saw the same?
Check out what was reported on their AGM about Chairman's rejection of Trust proposal
http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/sport/yorkci ... _proposal/