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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:18 pm 
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I would think that any 20k prize would be going straight into covering the shortfall rather than BTB.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:07 pm 
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Whatever- just get voting!!


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:00 am 
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Vodka_Vic wrote:
I would think that any 20k prize would be going straight into covering the shortfall rather than BTB.



As I mentioned after the recent fans forum, the £60k we raised very quickly after the Dolphin centre meeting was supposed to clear any remaining debt and give us a cash flow buffer. I think we are entitled to know why this has not happened as it was a clear plea at the time for a one off fans contribution to put us on a clear financial footing.

When I asked, all I got was vague answers like “ it has certainly helped but....”


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:37 am 
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If, as now seems likely, we don't make the full £80K what should TW do? Does he run with what he has, settle for an uninspiring season in mid table and hope for a good cup run to boost the finances. If so it runs the risk that attendances will drop again, which is the last thing we need. Or does he make up the shortfall by selling a player and have a better chance of challenging for the play offs.


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Vodka_Vic wrote:
I would think that any 20k prize would be going straight into covering the shortfall rather than BTB.



As I mentioned after the recent fans forum, the £60k we raised very quickly after the Dolphin centre meeting was supposed to clear any remaining debt and give us a cash flow buffer. I think we are entitled to know why this has not happened as it was a clear plea at the time for a one off fans contribution to put us on a clear financial footing.

When I asked, all I got was vague answers like “ it has certainly helped but....”


That’s because no one can be certain what revenue we’d expect to bank in the forthcoming fixtures. Bigger crowds = less shortfall, smaller crowds = more


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Quakerlad wrote:
Vodka_Vic wrote:
I would think that any 20k prize would be going straight into covering the shortfall rather than BTB.



As I mentioned after the recent fans forum, the £60k we raised very quickly after the Dolphin centre meeting was supposed to clear any remaining debt and give us a cash flow buffer. I think we are entitled to know why this has not happened as it was a clear plea at the time for a one off fans contribution to put us on a clear financial footing.

When I asked, all I got was vague answers like “ it has certainly helped but....”


That’s because no one can be certain what revenue we’d expect to bank in the forthcoming fixtures. Bigger crowds = less shortfall, smaller crowds = more


The answer seems simple, but painful: we must plan cautiously for smaller crowds.

This may mean a reduced budget, but this is the only credible action. If crowds grow above expectation, then we can begin to build a surplus to prevent future cash-flow problems.


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If, as now seems likely, we don't make the full £80K what should TW do? Does he run with what he has, settle for an uninspiring season in mid table and hope for a good cup run to boost the finances. If so it runs the risk that attendances will drop again, which is the last thing we need. Or does he make up the shortfall by selling a player and have a better chance of challenging for the play offs.

He'll have to wheel and deal as best he can.

I don't see why the current squad with a bit of tweaking can't put a play-off challenge together. Take out that disastrous mid-season slump and we'd be there or thereabouts this season.

We'll have to trim a couple from the squad, but we have a couple who have featured very rarely for various reasons so I don't think headcount would become an issue.

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Quakerlad wrote:
Vodka_Vic wrote:
I would think that any 20k prize would be going straight into covering the shortfall rather than BTB.



As I mentioned after the recent fans forum, the £60k we raised very quickly after the Dolphin centre meeting was supposed to clear any remaining debt and give us a cash flow buffer. I think we are entitled to know why this has not happened as it was a clear plea at the time for a one off fans contribution to put us on a clear financial footing.

When I asked, all I got was vague answers like “ it has certainly helped but....”


Because gates have been relatively poor recently.

This season seems to have been really poor weather-wise. Chorley, Curzon Ashton, North Ferriby and Boston for example. You can guarantee that the weather in the build-up before these games will have knocked 100/200 off the attendance. It puts people off.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:20 pm 
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If we raise 80k through boost the budget then 170k + 80k = 250k. If I'm correct, and Tommy thinks a nice round 250k will be enough to have a shot at the play offs then you have to admire that, because it's still less than than the current budget.


To be fair, that was the level of budget that MG had when we made the play-offs last season, albeit he did also spend close to £100k on "other staff", which I presume will be significantly reduced under TW. Madness.

Problem for TW going forward is not only reducing our current budget to c£250k, but also having the scope to bring in players he wants. We're carrying numbers with too many contracted beyond this season.

We need a summer of significant changes.


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He'll have to wheel and deal as best he can.

I don't see why the current squad with a bit of tweaking can't put a play-off challenge together. Take out that disastrous mid-season slump and we'd be there or thereabouts this season.

We'll have to trim a couple from the squad, but we have a couple who have featured very rarely for various reasons so I don't think headcount would become an issue.


Spot on.

We can use the reserves/youths for the fringe squad places, instead of paying Mills, Marrs, Burgess, etc; we can certainly lose a few of those fringe senior players with little impact on the overall quality of the squad.

We could also use the loan system much better, as Tommy Wright has begun to do, with Pears a stellar example.


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Back to the subject of the thread, I've noticed that having reduced to a crawl in the last week or so the fund has now come to a complete halt over the last couple of days. While the previous fund to raise £40,000 was achieve with 180 people the current fund total is at nearly £47,000 from just over 200 people. Dare I say it that it looks as if it's the same portion of the total fan base that is keeping the place afloat and as others have said, just the tiniest commitment by the other 1,000 plus fans would make a great deal of impact on getting near to the £80,000. I know there are reasons why some people would struggle to squeeze money out of already tight budgets, but one less pint a week ( as recently recommended by the health police) and we wouldn't be far off.


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Am I the only one that finds it funny this is not permanently on the Darlo homepage?

Possibly good to promote this at Saturday and Wednesdays home games for a final push, pushing it over the broadcasts during the game, (including the radio broadcasts), and being sold positively for next season. Even investing £1 per week in it would make it affordable for most I would think, and would raise a substantial amount over the year, (500 x £1 x 52 = £26,000).

Also wonder if the final date should be extended to at least the beginning of next season, if we get some good vibes during the close season it may encourage more donations possibly, (last year there was nothing coming out of the club during the break which I feel led to a quiet feeling around the club at the beginning of the season).


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:12 am 
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Am I the only one that finds it funny this is not permanently on the Darlo homepage?

Possibly good to promote this at Saturday and Wednesdays home games for a final push, pushing it over the broadcasts during the game, (including the radio broadcasts), and being sold positively for next season. Even investing £1 per week in it would make it affordable for most I would think, and would raise a substantial amount over the year, (500 x £1 x 52 = £26,000).

Also wonder if the final date should be extended to at least the beginning of next season, if we get some good vibes during the close season it may encourage more donations possibly, (last year there was nothing coming out of the club during the break which I feel led to a quiet feeling around the club at the beginning of the season).

I suspect they have set the end of April so Tommy knows his budget. Don't think the concept of crowd funding is fully understood and it maybe that some people still think st or entrance fee fully pays for the standard of player they want to watch. There have been more posts on this thread than contributors and over 18k views so it may be those not on social media who are not fully aware


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48k up :thumbup:

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Pledges flying in again after the 20k news .Someone just pledged £1300.Well done whoever you are.Can actually see us getting close to the 80k target now as the total so far is just short of £50,000.Unbelievable support.


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Pledges flying in again after the 20k news .Someone just pledged £1300.Well done whoever you are.Can actually see us getting close to the 80k target now as the total so far is just short of £50,000.Unbelievable support.


Usually spikes towards the end too, I can see us hitting it or coming very close


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£50384 from 222 investors.

The last two pledges have been for £1,300 and £910. Let's hope that neither of these are mistakes.

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And another £520 donation - some big contributions today!

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The pace of pledges is picking up again - now £52,206 from 229 investors!

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The pace of pledges is picking up again - now £52,206 from 229 investors!

Phenomenal effort this, incredible fans.


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Excellent stuff!

Hopefully the pace of contributions continues to pick up as we near the end of April. 300 investors at the current rate would see us close to 70k, which would I'm sure be a big boost for Wright and White.

Any contributions, big or small, lump sums or direct debits, are (hopefully!) investments in a more exciting season next year. Would only take a one-off £20 from everyone who will attend our next home game who hasn't donated yet and we'd be pretty much at 80k and the budget to expect a playoff push and all the excitement and big games that entails

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£53k mark ticked off....now £53,106 pledged.


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