Re: Sporting Village
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:30 pm
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They dont make much, if any, money on Pop Concerts, Sunderland never did, I think Sunderland Council pulled funding of some kind, and SAFC stopped them all together, though they weren't bad for the Local Economyboorman wrote:I never cease to be amazed by how naive councillors and fans can get during proposals for new sporting facilities. There's always this assumption that just by having good facilities, you'll make money from conferences, pop concerts etc. Hardly any sports clubs actually make this work. There are a few, but when you consider just how many boards of directors cannot run a football club/rugby club for s***, then how exactly can they be expected to suddenly raise millions from activity outside of sport?
In Darlington especially, I find this particularly ridiculous. These councillors have such short memories. Did DFC coin it in with pop concerts and conferences?
Did they bollocks. So why should the rugby club fare any better?
I am certain that DJ has previously stated that if the sporting hub was given the go ahead to install a 4g pitch then the club would seek compensation from the council. I'm sure he has said this on more than one occassion. I am guessing our 4g plans are already filed and the council know about them, therefore they would have to compensate us for essentially killing our business plan.Vodka_Vic wrote:This business of the rugby club being allowed to make revenue from a 4g pitch is the one which worries me most. As QuakerPete says, this would be our income stream gone. DJ wanted planning permission at BM to build a clubhouse and 4g pitches to create our income stream. If that isn't viable, and a place at the "Rugby Village" isn't either, where do we go from here in terms of increasing revenue streams and being competitive at the next level? Here's hoping that behind the scenes we have a rabbit to pull out of the hat.
Could the town centre possibly become any more endangered the way things are goingloan_star wrote:Dixon poured cold water on Upshalls plans because the retail element Mowden Park are allowed was deemed to have endangered the viability of the town centre. !00% behind Upshall on this.
LoidLucan wrote:Can't see how you'd stand a cat in hells chance of getting compensation. And why should you when another business seeks permission to set something up that you happen to be interested in doing. I don't believe the council has given us some sort of legally binding agreement to have first option on this. And as far as I am aware no plans have been submitted by us. DJ has said it would be something we would be interested in for the future as a very good income stream. That would be dead in the water if there's another one just up the road.
More likely that the residents of the Blackwell area didn't want a retail development on their doorstep.loan_star wrote:Dixon poured cold water on Upshalls plans because the retail element Mowden Park are allowed was deemed to have endangered the viability of the town centre. !00% behind Upshall on this.
It didnt, the council made it known that they would be against it because of the retail side of it potentially damaging the town centre therefore it was pointless proceeding as it would have taken ages to try and get approval over the councils head. The NIMBYs didnt even need to think about protesting!Quakerz wrote:I might be wrong but didn't the proposed Upshall development even get near the stage where NIMBYs would be out in force protesting against it?
Seemed like it never got past even the first hurdle.
Events have overtaken the council with Binns, M&S, BHS, Starbucks, McDonalds, Poundland, Mothercare, TK Maxx, Argos all closing /leaving the town centre so it is no longer a real retail destination. There are already enough Wetherspoons / gin bars / pubs / nail bars / Greggs / vape shops / mobile phone shops /bookies / charity shops and Turkish barbers. What we don't have is a bus station or a sporting hub in the centre of town. If the design happened to have a 6k -10k all-purpose stadium with a decent grass pitch at a reasonable rent, then we may be persuaded to put our team in as tenants.loan_star wrote:It didnt, the council made it known that they would be against it because of the retail side of it potentially damaging the town centre therefore it was pointless proceeding as it would have taken ages to try and get approval over the councils head. The NIMBYs didnt even need to think about protesting!Quakerz wrote:I might be wrong but didn't the proposed Upshall development even get near the stage where NIMBYs would be out in force protesting against it?
Seemed like it never got past even the first hurdle.
New Look are pulling out as well and possibly Top Shop.jjljks wrote:Events have overtaken the council with Binns, M&S, BHS, Starbucks, McDonalds, Poundland, Mothercare, TK Maxx, Argos all closing /leaving the town centre so it is no longer a real retail destination. There are already enough Wetherspoons / gin bars / pubs / nail bars / Greggs / vape shops / mobile phone shops /bookies / charity shops and Turkish barbers. What we don't have is a bus station or a sporting hub in the centre of town. If the design happened to have a 6k -10k all-purpose stadium with a decent grass pitch at a reasonable rent, then we may be persuaded to put our team in as tenants.loan_star wrote:It didnt, the council made it known that they would be against it because of the retail side of it potentially damaging the town centre therefore it was pointless proceeding as it would have taken ages to try and get approval over the councils head. The NIMBYs didnt even need to think about protesting!Quakerz wrote:I might be wrong but didn't the proposed Upshall development even get near the stage where NIMBYs would be out in force protesting against it?
Seemed like it never got past even the first hurdle.
I hate plastic pitches. I'd probably stop going if we went down that route.OHDFC wrote:Notwithstanding that l also don't like watching football on artificial pitches.
Here's another one!al_quaker wrote: But the Arena, but made even worse with a 4G pitch?
I thought you had your own thread to post on about shop closures Pete??Darlo_Pete wrote:New Look are pulling out as well and possibly Top Shop.jjljks wrote:Events have overtaken the council with Binns, M&S, BHS, Starbucks, McDonalds, Poundland, Mothercare, TK Maxx, Argos all closing /leaving the town centre so it is no longer a real retail destination. There are already enough Wetherspoons / gin bars / pubs / nail bars / Greggs / vape shops / mobile phone shops /bookies / charity shops and Turkish barbers. What we don't have is a bus station or a sporting hub in the centre of town. If the design happened to have a 6k -10k all-purpose stadium with a decent grass pitch at a reasonable rent, then we may be persuaded to put our team in as tenants.loan_star wrote:It didnt, the council made it known that they would be against it because of the retail side of it potentially damaging the town centre therefore it was pointless proceeding as it would have taken ages to try and get approval over the councils head. The NIMBYs didnt even need to think about protesting!Quakerz wrote:I might be wrong but didn't the proposed Upshall development even get near the stage where NIMBYs would be out in force protesting against it?
Seemed like it never got past even the first hurdle.