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 Post subject: Re: Caton watch
PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 2:36 pm 
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Just had a look at Caton's progress on his loan. Has completed a total of 458 mins on the pitch since he joined Stalybridge on Sept 21 with three assists and no goals. Last played on Dec 1 and his loan due to expire in January. Wonder if they will be offering big bucks to keep him for the season as he has made such a big impression in the Glue League.


We might be in a bit of trouble with this. Not sure if the below rule applies to this level of the pyramid, but:

Currently, under the FIFA Transfer Regulations, a football player is only allowed to be registered with a maximum of three clubs in one season. This also applies regardless of what country that player has plied his trade in, whether that is in Europe, Africa or South America.

During this period, the player is only eligible to play official matches for two clubs. However, a player may be eligible to play in official matches for a third club during the relevant season if he has moved between two clubs belonging to associations with overlapping seasons (ie, start of the season in summer/autumn as opposed to winter/spring). This is only allowed if he has fully complied with his contractual obligations towards his previous clubs
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That would mean he has used up his allotted clubs for this season. So only teams he could be registered for are us, Warrington or Stalybridge. Rather limits the options of who might sign him.


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 Post subject: Re: Caton watch
PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 2:42 pm 
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Still, ready-made replacement for Nelson.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 2:43 pm 
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Just leaves us where we are anyhow, paying Caton for nothing. I guess we only have 4 more months of it, then he will be gone.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 2:44 pm 
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super_les_mcjannet wrote:
Just leaves us where we are anyhow, paying Caton for nothing. I guess we only have 4 more months of it, then he will be gone.

Contract extension anyone?


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 Post subject: Re: Caton watch
PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 2:50 pm 
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JE93 wrote:
LoidLucan wrote:
Just had a look at Caton's progress on his loan. Has completed a total of 458 mins on the pitch since he joined Stalybridge on Sept 21 with three assists and no goals. Last played on Dec 1 and his loan due to expire in January. Wonder if they will be offering big bucks to keep him for the season as he has made such a big impression in the Glue League.


We might be in a bit of trouble with this. Not sure if the below rule applies to this level of the pyramid, but:

Currently, under the FIFA Transfer Regulations, a football player is only allowed to be registered with a maximum of three clubs in one season. This also applies regardless of what country that player has plied his trade in, whether that is in Europe, Africa or South America.

During this period, the player is only eligible to play official matches for two clubs. However, a player may be eligible to play in official matches for a third club during the relevant season if he has moved between two clubs belonging to associations with overlapping seasons (ie, start of the season in summer/autumn as opposed to winter/spring). This is only allowed if he has fully complied with his contractual obligations towards his previous clubs
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That would mean he has used up his allotted clubs for this season. So only teams he could be registered for are us, Warrington or Stalybridge. Rather limits the options of who might sign him.

Think you are Spot on here JE93. I remember a few seasons ago Graham Sharp's Lad playing against us for Colwyn Bay at the start of the season then in the January for Marine, his 3rd Club that season. Was talking to their fans and they confirmed the Rule above and that he was......not very good so they wanted ride of him.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 2:58 pm 
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I always thought that it was calendar year not season. Think this came up with Javier Mascherano when he went from West Ham -> Liverpool.


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LoidLucan wrote:
Still, ready-made replacement for Nelson.


Yep, would fit like a glove (which he already has) :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:18 am 
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Bring him back and play him ahead of Henshall, who offers absolutely nothing.


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DFCAnth wrote:
Bring him back and play him ahead of Henshall, who offers absolutely nothing.


Is that not akin to replacing your chocolate fireguard with an ice sculpted one?


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:10 am 
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DFCAnth wrote:
Bring him back and play him ahead of Henshall, who offers absolutely nothing.


Agreed, what's the point of him collecting his wages and doing nothing for the club, the way our squad is he could at least be available for the run in as injuries mount.

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All I can think is there's possibly some sort of deal been done on his wages and he's allowed to pursue other things.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:19 am 
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lo36789 wrote:
DFCAnth wrote:
Bring him back and play him ahead of Henshall, who offers absolutely nothing.


Is that not akin to replacing your chocolate fireguard with an ice sculpted one?



Whether it is accurate description or not - the comparison you make is a fantastic description

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:25 am 
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Caton's latest tweet, 2 hours ago.

Thanks to everyone connected at @StalyCelticFC for making my time there so enjoyable. From the players, staff, fans I’ve felt so welcome at the club. Great people. Unfortunate to pick up an injury, but will be back stronger. Wish you all the best for the rest of the season ⚽️

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 Post subject: Re: Caton watch
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 12:46 pm 
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I can't see him turning out for us again, not only due to the fact Wright doesn't rate him, but even if he did he would have a section of the supporters on his back straight away for being not up to expectations in the past.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 12:49 pm 
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Would be great to see the under armour, curly locks and gloves again...time for the prodigal son to return from the cold


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 12:56 pm 
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I see his twitter page has been updated with Darlo pictures.

If we can't ship him out I'd have him back as an option in the squad. He can't do any worse than some players have done so far this year, and you never know the impending end of his contract may generate some good performances out of him.

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If he can play like he did at Leamington and at home v Blyth (before he got crocked) last term I’d have him on the left wing in a heartbeat


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Yeah I think we’re in quite a different place now whereby he won’t be the shittest/weakest/laziest player anymore so could work out.

Can’t see TW reintegrating him tho


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divas wrote:
Yeah I think we’re in quite a different place now whereby he won’t be the shittest/weakest/laziest player anymore so could work out.


True, but a sad indictment of where the club finds itself now


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divas wrote:
Yeah I think we’re in quite a different place now whereby he won’t be the shittest/weakest/laziest player anymore so could work out.

Can’t see TW reintegrating him tho


He would still be up there in the top 3 though :D ;)

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:12 pm 
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I think we will do well to loan him out for the rest of the season, one of those footballers likes Collins and Henshall where they have injury after injury. I think the club needs to do better at reviewing players injury records and have a decent medical before they join, the Caton signing has been a disaster.
If we are going to continue to operate with a tiny squad we cannot take gambles on players who have poor records on the injury front - it may seem harsh bit its the real world - I wouldn't last long at my job if I couldn't do a full days work consistently.

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poppyfield wrote:
Caton's latest tweet, 2 hours ago.

Thanks to everyone connected at @StalyCelticFC for making my time there so enjoyable. From the players, staff, fans I’ve felt so welcome at the club. Great people. Unfortunate to pick up an injury, but will be back stronger. Wish you all the best for the rest of the season ⚽️

I know he hasn't turned out for them since beginning of December but does above tweet suggest he is still injured?


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bga wrote:
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Caton's latest tweet, 2 hours ago.

Thanks to everyone connected at @StalyCelticFC for making my time there so enjoyable. From the players, staff, fans I’ve felt so welcome at the club. Great people. Unfortunate to pick up an injury, but will be back stronger. Wish you all the best for the rest of the season ⚽️

I know he hasn't turned out for them since beginning of December but does above tweet suggest he is still injured?


I noticed he went from starting every game, then to being subbed off, then he was on the bench for the last few games and then has been injured since early Dec. Lets just say he started well then faded.

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PierremontQuaker03 wrote:
bga wrote:
poppyfield wrote:
Caton's latest tweet, 2 hours ago.

Thanks to everyone connected at @StalyCelticFC for making my time there so enjoyable. From the players, staff, fans I’ve felt so welcome at the club. Great people. Unfortunate to pick up an injury, but will be back stronger. Wish you all the best for the rest of the season ⚽️

I know he hasn't turned out for them since beginning of December but does above tweet suggest he is still injured?


I noticed he went from starting every game, then to being subbed off, then he was on the bench for the last few games and then has been injured since early Dec. Lets just say he started well then faded.


That seems to sum up Caton quite well.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 10:21 pm 
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"James Caton returns to Darlington after an injury-ridden spell"

- Stalybridge Celtic

Wonder how the training went tonight.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:37 am 
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Got a spare pair of gloves for xmas so will bring them with me for Kiddy game , just in case


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 Post subject: Re: Caton watch
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Unbelievable the amount of keyboard bullying goes that goes on to one of our own players


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Unbelievable the amount of keyboard bullying goes that goes on to one of our own players

Agreed, it is way over the top and getting boring now.For God’s sake leave the lad alone, can you honestly blame him for sitting back and seeing out the obvious ridiculous contract that Gray gave him.


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Unbelievable the amount of keyboard bullying goes that goes on to one of our own players

Agreed, it is way over the top and getting boring now.For God’s sake leave the lad alone, can you honestly blame him for sitting back and seeing out the obvious ridiculous contract that Gray gave him.


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I do find it hugely amusing that some in here expect him to just walk away from his contract when, if faced with the same choice in their workplace, they’d never even contemplate doing the same.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:06 am 
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Plenty of players wear gloves these days. Hardly his fault if he's not in favour and to be fair he has gone elsewhere to try to get a game. Get off his back.


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