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 Post subject: Harvey Saunders
PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:51 am 
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Signed a new deal :clap: :clap:

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 Post subject: Re: Harvey Saunders
PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:49 am 
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Good news. Players like him keep the local connection alive. He's due a solid season too.


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 Post subject: Re: Harvey Saunders
PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:42 am 
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Well deserved - he's made great progress this year

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 Post subject: Re: Harvey Saunders
PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:51 pm 
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Signed a new deal but no loan signings to provide adequate support up front or from midfield. TW has put his rose tinted glasses back on stating what a great team we have?


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 Post subject: Re: Harvey Saunders
PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:26 pm 
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I've changed my opinion about Harvey and he's now showing great promise. Wonder how long a contract he has signed?


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 Post subject: Re: Harvey Saunders
PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:06 pm 
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Darlo_Pete wrote:
I've changed my opinion about Harvey and he's now showing great promise. Wonder how long a contract he has signed?

The problem is Pete our fans don't give players chance to improve they think one bad game and they are Shite .. I will admit I don't think he is the answer to our striker problems BUT I'm glad he is improving and hopefully will continue to do so

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 Post subject: Re: Harvey Saunders
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HarrytheQuaker wrote:
Darlo_Pete wrote:
I've changed my opinion about Harvey and he's now showing great promise. Wonder how long a contract he has signed?

The problem is Pete our fans don't give players chance to improve they think one bad game and they are Shite .. I will admit I don't think he is the answer to our striker problems BUT I'm glad he is improving and hopefully will continue to do so

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Your so right. If a new player doesn't hit the ground running, then they are fans who will right them off almost straight away.


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 Post subject: Re: Harvey Saunders
PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:14 am 
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Smart move to protect one of our unpolished diamonds. Really need to clone him several times over to fill the voids which have appeared in our squad. One thing is certain, HS can't get us out of this predicament alone, we need to recruit well and support the team.


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 Post subject: Re: Harvey Saunders
PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:33 am 
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Unless we bring a striker in Saunders is not going to get us the goals to keep us in this league.


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 Post subject: Re: Harvey Saunders
PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:26 am 
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I like Saunders a lot. He is the only player in the team at the moment that looks properly sharp.

Totally unconnected, he reminds me a little of the actor Dave Franco.


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quakerste wrote:
Unless we bring a striker in Saunders is not going to get us the goals to keep us in this league.




Probably for the best to get him sold.

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 Post subject: Re: Harvey Saunders
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theoriginalfatcat wrote:
quakerste wrote:
Unless we bring a striker in Saunders is not going to get us the goals to keep us in this league.




Probably for the best to get him sold.


Do you actually think anybody would want to buy him?


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 Post subject: Re: Harvey Saunders
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Darlo_Pete wrote:
theoriginalfatcat wrote:
quakerste wrote:
Unless we bring a striker in Saunders is not going to get us the goals to keep us in this league.




Probably for the best to get him sold.


Do you actually think anybody would want to buy him?
No need for that comment, grow up Pete.

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 Post subject: Re: Harvey Saunders
PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:36 pm 
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quakerste wrote:
Unless we bring a striker in Saunders is not going to get us the goals to keep us in this league.


Total agreement. Not "So Young" Harvey will never develop into a potent striker at this level or above. He is a headless chicken.

Unless we are paying him £10 per week, extending his contract was being frivolous with the clubs funds.

Should any club be desperate, or stupid to offer a fee snap their hands off.


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 Post subject: Re: Harvey Saunders
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QUAKERMAN2 wrote:
Darlo_Pete wrote:
theoriginalfatcat wrote:
quakerste wrote:
Unless we bring a striker in Saunders is not going to get us the goals to keep us in this league.




Probably for the best to get him sold.


Do you actually think anybody would want to buy him?
No need for that comment, grow up Pete.

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It was a serious question.


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 Post subject: Re: Harvey Saunders
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Darlo_Pete wrote:
QUAKERMAN2 wrote:
Darlo_Pete wrote:
theoriginalfatcat wrote:
quakerste wrote:
Unless we bring a striker in Saunders is not going to get us the goals to keep us in this league.




Probably for the best to get him sold.


Do you actually think anybody would want to buy him?
No need for that comment, grow up Pete.

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It was a serious question.

I'm with you Pete.. Maybe if he scores 15/20 goals this season and next then maybe he will be an asset

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 Post subject: Re: Harvey Saunders
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I think that most strikers hit there peak in the mid to late 20's, Harvey has a few years to develop. Think he will do it but needs service. Think Leicester had a similar situation with a lower league player they took on as well - think he turned our ok!!


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 Post subject: Re: Harvey Saunders
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50 years wrote:
I think that most strikers hit there peak in the mid to late 20's, Harvey has a few years to develop. Think he will do it but needs service. Think Leicester had a similar situation with a lower league player they took on as well - think he turned our ok!!


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 Post subject: Re: Harvey Saunders
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Saunders looks to me to have the right stuff but it's very hard for a prospect in a poor team. I remember watching Curtis Main in a rotten line up during Colin Todd's tenure. You could see how good he was but his quality was dragged down by poor balls and people not seeing what he was doing. I don't say Saunders is that good but if he could get up and away he could enjoy playing and have a decent career. It's not fair to moan when he can't do it on his own.


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 Post subject: Re: Harvey Saunders
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Go and boil your head[/quote]

Clearly I have hit a nerve there Tezza for some reason, by mentioning something I believe to be accurate. From your response you clearly don't agree :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Harvey Saunders
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Happy for him. Well deserved.


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50 years wrote:
Go and boil your head


Clearly I have hit a nerve there Tezza for some reason, by mentioning something I believe to be accurate. From your response you clearly don't agree :lol:[/quote]


Is Tezza "Ted" ???

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I don't know, I hardly know anyone personally on this forum, but Tezza clearly doesn't like my head ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Harvey Saunders
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Wiseacre wrote:
Saunders looks to me to have the right stuff but it's very hard for a prospect in a poor team. I remember watching Curtis Main in a rotten line up during Colin Todd's tenure. You could see how good he was but his quality was dragged down by poor balls and people not seeing what he was doing. I don't say Saunders is that good but if he could get up and away he could enjoy playing and have a decent career. It's not fair to moan when he can't do it on his own.


I went to Chester with a mate who has been involved in non league football for many years. One criticism he made was that the midfield repeatedly failed to see good forward passes which were open to them and that Harvey was making runs which should have led to the ball being played through for him but that just wasn’t happening. A forward with pace can ove along the line and get into position to break forward but if the pass doesn’t come, or doesn’t come at the right time we will not find out how good he is or can be.


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 Post subject: Re: Harvey Saunders
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Hate to spoil the near hero worship of some for Harvey, but outside of decent pace I see little other deft football skills. Defenders simply seem to take two steps further up the pitch to neutralise him.
He certainly appears to pose little physical threat to defences.

I am not doubting his commitment and effort, its the end product, or lack of it that is frustrating. As for trying to compare him with Vardy.. really.. imagination stretcher there

I stand to be proven wrong given he now appears to be our main strike weapon, particularly given Ainge immobility and poor fitness.


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Is Tezza "Ted" ???


Some think he is, but I don't.

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 Post subject: Re: Harvey Saunders
PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:30 am 
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If we did not offer Harvey a contract, he could have walked away from this dire predicament the club is in and we would have no fit centre forward to field on Saturday. At least this gives other lads in the Academy one example of being rewarded by the club although I trust it isn't some outlandish £££££ per week.


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 Post subject: Re: Harvey Saunders
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Hate to spoil the near hero worship of some for Harvey, but outside of decent pace I see little other deft football skills. Defenders simply seem to take two steps further up the pitch to neutralise him.
He certainly appears to pose little physical threat to defences.

I am not doubting his commitment and effort, its the end product, or lack of it that is frustrating. As for trying to compare him with Vardy.. really.. imagination stretcher there

I stand to be proven wrong given he now appears to be our main strike weapon, particularly given Ainge immobility and poor fitness.

Saunders has scored 5 goals in 10 starts + 7 sub appearances this season. So roughly 1 in 3. Not a world beater, but a decent enough record and clear improvement from last season.

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 Post subject: Re: Harvey Saunders
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Walked away to where ???

I do not buy using Harvey as an example to what can be achieved by signing up to the DFC Academy as a huge incentive, perhaps I have missed something ?

I doubt given that we are near "fire sale" stage that the club will be paying any extravagant amounts to extend existing players contracted salaries.


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al_quaker wrote:
tezza wrote:
Hate to spoil the near hero worship of some for Harvey, but outside of decent pace I see little other deft football skills. Defenders simply seem to take two steps further up the pitch to neutralise him.
He certainly appears to pose little physical threat to defences.

I am not doubting his commitment and effort, its the end product, or lack of it that is frustrating. As for trying to compare him with Vardy.. really.. imagination stretcher there

I stand to be proven wrong given he now appears to be our main strike weapon, particularly given Ainge immobility and poor fitness.

Saunders has scored 5 goals in 10 starts + 7 sub appearances this season. So roughly 1 in 3. Not a world beater, but a decent enough record and clear improvement from last season.


Lets take his overall performance since debut in January 2017 as a true reflection of his worth , rather than being selective with the stats. Prolific would not be a word that sprung to mind.

As I said , I stand to be proven wrong. He now himself in the place he apparently always wanted to be, there will be no hiding, he can be judged much better as to his real worth between now and season end.


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