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They can just pick an choose what questions to answer
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Would you prefer them in the stockade in old market square at midday?jjlewis1k89 wrote:They can just pick an choose what questions to answer
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Ask a reasonable question and I think johnston and Tempest would provide a reasonable answer.
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I also think yesterday demonstrated why a fans forum would be an utterly terrible idea just now.
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I'm not sure there will ever be another fans forum. If things are going well you don't need one and when things are going badly there will always be trouble.tdk1 wrote:I also think yesterday demonstrated why a fans forum would be an utterly terrible idea just now.
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Infinitely preferable than a fans forum where you have the scum of our fanbase turning up agitating for trouble and taking things far too far like they did at the end of the game yesterday.jjlewis1k89 wrote:They can just pick an choose what questions to answer
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On the plus side, hopefully that means we will have a board of directors until Friday at least.
Netcafe is desperately needed.
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I think it would be of benefit to us all if we had 'uncovered' question tabled for an answer, we some articulate posters on here who could set a reasoned question.
I think question should include an explanation of how we got to this point with our finances, with money coming from player sales legends game/snow dive 50 gran asked for and given to clear previous debt. Next, the boards view on TWs future at the club, the ramifications if he stays , the cost of sacking him versus the cost of relegation and dwindling attendance.
So if someone wants to have go at producing one, great, it should stop a load of duplicate questions going in.
I think question should include an explanation of how we got to this point with our finances, with money coming from player sales legends game/snow dive 50 gran asked for and given to clear previous debt. Next, the boards view on TWs future at the club, the ramifications if he stays , the cost of sacking him versus the cost of relegation and dwindling attendance.
So if someone wants to have go at producing one, great, it should stop a load of duplicate questions going in.
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A good idea.poppyfield wrote:I think it would be of benefit to us all if we had 'uncovered' question tabled for an answer, we some articulate posters on here who could set a reasoned question.
I think question should include an explanation of how we got to this point with our finances, with money coming from player sales legends game/snow dive 50 gran asked for and given to clear previous debt. Next, the boards view on TWs future at the club, the ramifications if he stays , the cost of sacking him versus the cost of relegation and dwindling attendance.
So if someone wants to have go at producing one, great, it should stop a load of duplicate questions going in.
For me the recent statement from the club and recent events suggests:
a) A very significant commercial income shortfall on expectations. - Why has that arisen, and when did board realise the shortfall [The crowd income shortfall follows from results/ performances and is easier to explain]
b) Travelling expenses - are any or all players and staff paid travelling expenses to training or home natcges? If so, at what rate & how is this policed? EG if all players are entitled to expenses to travel to BM
I) is this not payment from home to fixed place of work, and therefore taxable under HMRC rules (NI issues as well?)
ii) What is to stop say 3 midland based players sharing a car to BM and all paining travel expenses
c) Given seeming financial issues, are club up to date on PAYE and NI payments to HMRC and are there currently sufficient funds in the bank to cover the next payments. [No reason to believe the payments are not up to date, but these are often first payments missed in financial problem situations]
d) Aged creditors listing....can club provide anonymised and grouped listing showing creditors due to be paid, immediately, in 30 days and over 30 days?
A few financial questions that board should be able to answer to owners of club
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spen666 wrote:A good idea.poppyfield wrote:I think it would be of benefit to us all if we had 'uncovered' question tabled for an answer, we some articulate posters on here who could set a reasoned question.
I think question should include an explanation of how we got to this point with our finances, with money coming from player sales legends game/snow dive 50 gran asked for and given to clear previous debt. Next, the boards view on TWs future at the club, the ramifications if he stays , the cost of sacking him versus the cost of relegation and dwindling attendance.
So if someone wants to have go at producing one, great, it should stop a load of duplicate questions going in.
For me the recent statement from the club and recent events suggests:
a) A very significant commercial income shortfall on expectations. - Why has that arisen, and when did board realise the shortfall [The crowd income shortfall follows from results/ performances and is easier to explain]
b) Travelling expenses - are any or all players and staff paid travelling expenses to training or home natcges? If so, at what rate & how is this policed? EG if all players are entitled to expenses to travel to BM
I) is this not payment from home to fixed place of work, and therefore taxable under HMRC rules (NI issues as well?)
ii) What is to stop say 3 midland based players sharing a car to BM and all paining travel expenses
c) Given seeming financial issues, are club up to date on PAYE and NI payments to HMRC and are there currently sufficient funds in the bank to cover the next payments. [No reason to believe the payments are not up to date, but these are often first payments missed in financial problem situations]
d) Aged creditors listing....can club provide anonymised and grouped listing showing creditors due to be paid, immediately, in 30 days and over 30 days?
A few financial questions that board should be able to answer to owners of club
you really should give me your details , so much time on your hands , normally people in your position dont have the time of day , you must charge 200 an hour ? any discount for darlo supporters ? or are you free
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Some good articulate points here. Someone who is clearly not articulate is showing themselves up. Anyway, I'd actually like to ask if the club has produced/will produce a full breakdown of costings associated with relegation.
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If there is discount for Darlo supporters you won't be included.Seventynine wrote:spen666 wrote:A good idea.poppyfield wrote:I think it would be of benefit to us all if we had 'uncovered' question tabled for an answer, we some articulate posters on here who could set a reasoned question.
I think question should include an explanation of how we got to this point with our finances, with money coming from player sales legends game/snow dive 50 gran asked for and given to clear previous debt. Next, the boards view on TWs future at the club, the ramifications if he stays , the cost of sacking him versus the cost of relegation and dwindling attendance.
So if someone wants to have go at producing one, great, it should stop a load of duplicate questions going in.
For me the recent statement from the club and recent events suggests:
a) A very significant commercial income shortfall on expectations. - Why has that arisen, and when did board realise the shortfall [The crowd income shortfall follows from results/ performances and is easier to explain]
b) Travelling expenses - are any or all players and staff paid travelling expenses to training or home natcges? If so, at what rate & how is this policed? EG if all players are entitled to expenses to travel to BM
I) is this not payment from home to fixed place of work, and therefore taxable under HMRC rules (NI issues as well?)
ii) What is to stop say 3 midland based players sharing a car to BM and all paining travel expenses
c) Given seeming financial issues, are club up to date on PAYE and NI payments to HMRC and are there currently sufficient funds in the bank to cover the next payments. [No reason to believe the payments are not up to date, but these are often first payments missed in financial problem situations]
d) Aged creditors listing....can club provide anonymised and grouped listing showing creditors due to be paid, immediately, in 30 days and over 30 days?
A few financial questions that board should be able to answer to owners of club
you really should give me your details , so much time on your hands , normally people in your position dont have the time of day , you must charge 200 an hour ? any discount for darlo supporters ? or are you free
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is that cos im not in the click ?
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Thinking again about this issue....I wonder if travelling expenses had been thought about or properly costed before contracts were agreed. IE When costings were done did it include travelling expenses or just wages...if not, this could be a significant explanation of financial situation.spen666 wrote:.....
b) Travelling expenses - are any or all players and staff paid travelling expenses to training or home natcges? If so, at what rate & how is this policed? EG if all players are entitled to expenses to travel to BM
I) is this not payment from home to fixed place of work, and therefore taxable under HMRC rules (NI issues as well?)
ii) What is to stop say 3 midland based players sharing a car to BM and all paining travel expenses
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The expenses questions are obviously only relevant if club are paying travelling expenses to BM. I am not aware of club ever saying they do pay such expenses.
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spen666 wrote:Thinking again about this issue....I wonder if travelling expenses had been thought about or properly costed before contracts were agreed. IE When costings were done did it include travelling expenses or just wages...if not, this could be a significant explanation of financial situation.spen666 wrote:.....
b) Travelling expenses - are any or all players and staff paid travelling expenses to training or home natcges? If so, at what rate & how is this policed? EG if all players are entitled to expenses to travel to BM
I) is this not payment from home to fixed place of work, and therefore taxable under HMRC rules (NI issues as well?)
ii) What is to stop say 3 midland based players sharing a car to BM and all paining travel expenses
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The expenses questions are obviously only relevant if club are paying travelling expenses to BM. I am not aware of club ever saying they do pay such expenses.
i know who you are now..ill leave it at that .
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Am I supposed to be scared ?Seventynine wrote:spen666 wrote:Thinking again about this issue....I wonder if travelling expenses had been thought about or properly costed before contracts were agreed. IE When costings were done did it include travelling expenses or just wages...if not, this could be a significant explanation of financial situation.spen666 wrote:.....
b) Travelling expenses - are any or all players and staff paid travelling expenses to training or home natcges? If so, at what rate & how is this policed? EG if all players are entitled to expenses to travel to BM
I) is this not payment from home to fixed place of work, and therefore taxable under HMRC rules (NI issues as well?)
ii) What is to stop say 3 midland based players sharing a car to BM and all paining travel expenses
...
The expenses questions are obviously only relevant if club are paying travelling expenses to BM. I am not aware of club ever saying they do pay such expenses.
i know who you are now..ill leave it at that .
Many people on here know who I am. I make no secret of my identity. Indeed in my signature I have a link to my blog and my twitter account.
Quite what the relevance of you knowing my identity is to suggestions of questions for the netcafe is something I and I am sure others would like to know.
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Perfect time for some of the abusers to publicly apologise for the disgraceful scenes and vitriol dished out after Saturday's game, but I would be surprised if anyone of them had the balls to do it on their own,most need to have some backing. Whimps without a mob behind them.
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your right , but the thing thats bugging me is why a spennymoor supporter is instigating Darlington supporters ..and rubbing the marinade in .onewayup wrote:Perfect time for some of the abusers to publicly apologise for the disgraceful scenes and vitriol dished out after Saturday's game, but I would be surprised if anyone of them had the balls to do it on their own,most need to have some backing. Whimps without a mob behind them.
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No, it's because his comment was aimed at Spen.Seventynine wrote:is that cos im not in the click ?
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Seventynine wrote:your right , but the thing thats bugging me is why a spennymoor supporter is instigating Darlington supporters ..and rubbing the marinade in .onewayup wrote:Perfect time for some of the abusers to publicly apologise for the disgraceful scenes and vitriol dished out after Saturday's game, but I would be surprised if anyone of them had the balls to do it on their own,most need to have some backing. Whimps without a mob behind them.
I responded to a suggestion as to questions for the Netcafe.
Sadly you seem t prefer to try to fight non existent battles and make threats to know my identity even though I post links to it in every post I make on here.
As for I syigating Darlington supporters.......responding to a request is not instigating anyone. It is responding to a question
However, if you would rather waste time trying to threaten me than to think about questions that could be asked at the Netcafe to understand what is going on behind the scenes at the club's then carry on
This is nothing to do with and perceived inter club rivalries. The Netcafe is about finding out what is happening at Darlington and why the finances are not where they were expected to be.
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cheers for that ...spen is the lowest form of solicitor by the way. the internet or citizens advice will be cheaper and a lot less hassle ..where is your practice again ?theoriginalfatcat wrote:No, it's because his comment was aimed at Spen.Seventynine wrote:is that cos im not in the click ?
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Where is my practice?Seventynine wrote:cheers for that ...spen is the lowest form of solicitor by the way. the internet or citizens advice will be cheaper and a lot less hassle ..where is your practice again ?theoriginalfatcat wrote:No, it's because his comment was aimed at Spen.Seventynine wrote:is that cos im not in the click ?
Well as you have told everyone on here you know who I am, you will know where my practice is.
What I will say though is thank you to you personally for your recent payment to me
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digging here spen ...as im on cats, you need to shut your gob..jacksons ring a bell
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Could you translate that into English, then I may be able to answerSeventynine wrote:digging here spen ...as im on cats, you need to shut your gob..jacksons ring a bell
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your a fooking idiot..stop stirring the s*** with your shytespen666 wrote:Could out translate that into English, then I may be able to answerSeventynine wrote:digging here spen ...as im on cats, you need to shut your gob..jacksons ring a bell
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i know of 3 people who have dealt with your practice ..go back to schoolSeventynine wrote:your a fooking idiot..stop stirring the s*** with your shytespen666 wrote:Could out translate that into English, then I may be able to answerSeventynine wrote:digging here spen ...as im on cats, you need to shut your gob..jacksons ring a bell
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I'm an idiot says the person who claims to know who I am then asks where I work.Seventynine wrote:your a fooking idiot..stop stirring the s*** with your shytespen666 wrote:Could out translate that into English, then I may be able to answerSeventynine wrote:digging here spen ...as im on cats, you need to shut your gob..jacksons ring a bell
The man who knows who I am but thinks the CAB can do what I do
The man who is unable to write in English. If you type questions in English I will answer. I can't answer questions when I do not know what you are asking.
If you know who I am...have the balls to say who I am rather than continue to make yourself look even more stupid
At least name my practice...if you do know it
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Now all the toys have been thrown out of the pram, can we get on and get back to the point of the thread please.
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Seventynine wrote:your a fooking idiot..stop stirring the s*** with your shytespen666 wrote:Could out translate that into English, then I may be able to answerSeventynine wrote:digging here spen ...as im on cats, you need to shut your gob..jacksons ring a bell
spen666 wrote:A good idea.poppyfield wrote:I think it would be of benefit to us all if we had 'uncovered' question tabled for an answer, we some articulate posters on here who could set a reasoned question.
I think question should include an explanation of how we got to this point with our finances, with money coming from player sales legends game/snow dive 50 gran asked for and given to clear previous debt. Next, the boards view on TWs future at the club, the ramifications if he stays , the cost of sacking him versus the cost of relegation and dwindling attendance.
So if someone wants to have go at producing one, great, it should stop a load of duplicate questions going in.
For me the recent statement from the club and recent events suggests:
a) A very significant commercial income shortfall on expectations. - Why has that arisen, and when did board realise the shortfall [The crowd income shortfall follows from results/ performances and is easier to explain]
b) Travelling expenses - are any or all players and staff paid travelling expenses to training or home natcges? If so, at what rate & how is this policed? EG if all players are entitled to expenses to travel to BM
I) is this not payment from home to fixed place of work, and therefore taxable under HMRC rules (NI issues as well?)
ii) What is to stop say 3 midland based players sharing a car to BM and all paining travel expenses
c) Given seeming financial issues, are club up to date on PAYE and NI payments to HMRC and are there currently sufficient funds in the bank to cover the next payments. [No reason to believe the payments are not up to date, but these are often first payments missed in financial problem situations]
d) Aged creditors listing....can club provide anonymised and grouped listing showing creditors due to be paid, immediately, in 30 days and over 30 days?
A few financial questions that board should be able to answer to owners of club
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These are perfectly reasonable questions to ask and require answering. I am an accountant and I offered my services free of charge at the time of the club reformation but was politely declined. I am of the opinion that since then it has been a jobs for the boys ownership model, not a true fan ownership. As a fan I know less about the finances of the club compared to when we were owned by richer previous owners. It seems that within the world of football everything has to be a close guarded secret. We don't need to know what every player is being paid, but an average would suffice, also an average travel expenses per player or total travel expenses paid per month. This is a perfectly reasonable information to request, why? Because how can a club that is struggling to field an experienced starting 11 pay out for travel costs for individual players and a manager (other than match day). Should our model change to local players/manager/coaches only in order to balance the books.Seventynine wrote:spen666 wrote:A good idea.poppyfield wrote:I think it would be of benefit to us all if we had 'uncovered' question tabled for an answer, we some articulate posters on here who could set a reasoned question.
I think question should include an explanation of how we got to this point with our finances, with money coming from player sales legends game/snow dive 50 gran asked for and given to clear previous debt. Next, the boards view on TWs future at the club, the ramifications if he stays , the cost of sacking him versus the cost of relegation and dwindling attendance.
So if someone wants to have go at producing one, great, it should stop a load of duplicate questions going in.
For me the recent statement from the club and recent events suggests:
a) A very significant commercial income shortfall on expectations. - Why has that arisen, and when did board realise the shortfall [The crowd income shortfall follows from results/ performances and is easier to explain]
b) Travelling expenses - are any or all players and staff paid travelling expenses to training or home natcges? If so, at what rate & how is this policed? EG if all players are entitled to expenses to travel to BM
I) is this not payment from home to fixed place of work, and therefore taxable under HMRC rules (NI issues as well?)
ii) What is to stop say 3 midland based players sharing a car to BM and all paining travel expenses
c) Given seeming financial issues, are club up to date on PAYE and NI payments to HMRC and are there currently sufficient funds in the bank to cover the next payments. [No reason to believe the payments are not up to date, but these are often first payments missed in financial problem situations]
d) Aged creditors listing....can club provide anonymised and grouped listing showing creditors due to be paid, immediately, in 30 days and over 30 days?
A few financial questions that board should be able to answer to owners of club
you really should give me your details , so much time on your hands , normally people in your position dont have the time of day , you must charge 200 an hour ? any discount for darlo supporters ? or are you free
Also we need to know about our options going forward, and our agreement with the rugby club, what are we legally signed up for? People might ask why do we want to know, well I just want to know because I am interested in what it means for the future of our club.
Also, I read a post, I'm not sure if its correct, that Nuneaton are a full time club but on a very low budget, i.e. paying low wages. Can we not do this instead of paying premium for part time footballers? These are options that need debating. At the moment, the team is training two days a week (at most) - and we are relying on them keeping fit, doing the right things - how can tactics be worked on etc etc? Yes it might mean a revolving door of players leaving for better wages but we would pick up players with a hope of continuing in the professional game i.e. players who have been released by Newcastle, Middlesbrough, Sunderland and Leeds to name a few.
I am very much looking forward to the Netcafe at the end of this week.
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