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Re: Darlington V Southport match thread

Post by sada8022 » Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:50 pm

I think the whole pricing of games needs to be looked at. I try and get others to go but once I mention 14 quid plus extra 2 quid to sit and the 5 quid to park they just laugh at me . 5 quid to park is the most expensive car park in the town.

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Re: Darlington V Southport match thread

Post by theoriginalfatcat » Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:03 pm

Ainge - he’s lost it.

He now looks unlikely to even get on the end of a long throw in or corner, there’s nothing left for him except defending work.
Mr Singh said this " I'm not expecting to get back any of the money I've already put in, I'm prepared to write it off for the future of the club. I'm not hanging in to make any kind of financial gain in the short or long term - if someone was prepared to come in and take the club off my hands, I'd be more than willing to discuss it"

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Re: Darlington V Southport match thread

Post by lo36789 » Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:06 pm

sada8022 wrote:I think the whole pricing of games needs to be looked at. I try and get others to go but once I mention 14 quid plus extra 2 quid to sit and the 5 quid to park they just laugh at me . 5 quid to park is the most expensive car park in the town.
I am not a commercial / marketing expert at all. I actually get quite engrossed at the end of sprint stand ups at work when the marketing team share their last work and almost the theory around why they are doing what they are doing.

The suggestion is that of your target market (question do we actually really know who our target market is with any marketing)

- why do people want it. Can we actually tell the story as to why they need to have our product.
- tell people how to get it. I think we do a lot of this without the first bit.

Allegedly there are 3 spaces in any persons brain for key messages when they receive marketing info. One has the be the name of the product, because if you don’t get that across then they won’t find you leaving 2 real like key messages about what is in it for them - why will their life be better or how will their need be met if they come.

Does the customer need actually exist in Darlington. Well if the bbc news articles are to be believed then loneliness in the population particularly those between 18 & 30 are at all time highs - same for those in 60+ bracket from what I understand.

Is that what we are actually offering - a place to socialise, a common cause, the chance to be part of a community. If it is then maybe the #whereyoubelong story needs to be flushed out. Video interviews with members of the DFCSG / fan base explaining how DFC actually helps them...

Maybe football is completely different to any other type of marketing but actually when I compare the brand stories at work, the approach to marketing and the real focus on what a customer wants against the poster campaigns and just blanket “awareness messages” maybe that is where we are going wrong.

As I say I am really not an expert in this but fortunately I am now part of a smaller 100 strong business at work of which 5 or 6 are marketing experts and it’s opened my eyes to how clinical their approach is. For instance for the past 6 months we’ve been deliberately putting clues on social media / media leaks of information but deliberately withholding information on what we actually do - that hasn’t stopped tens of thousands signing up to our mailing list...

First step - generate intrigue, second step - tell those who are interested why they want what you can give them and make it dead easy for them to get it.

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Re: Darlington V Southport match thread

Post by theoriginalfatcat » Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:20 pm

Trouble is lo, if you’re suggesting we try to sell our present location as a fun, social place to be, then that’s not the case. The Rugby club only really put up with us because they have to - and because of their attitude we will never be able to build any kind of “friendly club” atmosphere,
Mr Singh said this " I'm not expecting to get back any of the money I've already put in, I'm prepared to write it off for the future of the club. I'm not hanging in to make any kind of financial gain in the short or long term - if someone was prepared to come in and take the club off my hands, I'd be more than willing to discuss it"

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Re: Darlington V Southport match thread

Post by al_quaker » Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:27 pm

The effort wasn't in doubt, but a truly awful game between 2 very very average sides, topped off with an awful ref. I guess the only bright spot was Kneeshaw looked OK. Crowd was probably OK and can be viewed as a success if the club made more money that would otherwise do. But I'll be shocked if any of the extras come back after watching that. Hopefully Wednesday is worth the effort as today certainly wasn't.

On a more important note, I hope Muggleton can recover quickly from what sides a nasty injury.

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Re: Darlington V Southport match thread

Post by super_les_mcjannet » Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:31 pm

al_quaker wrote:The effort wasn't in doubt, but a truly awful game between 2 very very average sides, topped off with an awful ref. I guess the only bright spot was Kneeshaw looked OK. Crowd was probably OK and can be viewed as a success if the club made more money that would otherwise do. But I'll be shocked if any of the extras come back after watching that. Hopefully Wednesday is worth the effort as today certainly wasn't.

On a more important note, I hope Muggleton can recover quickly from what sides a nasty injury.
Yep hope the news is as good as possible for Muggleton.

I went home at the end bored to be honest, it was just a poor match. If that is a one off then fine but not sure I could watch that most weeks, however I have enjoyed most recent games for Darlo including a 0-0 at Alfreton, 1-1 at Curzon and even the 1-2 defeat to Spenny was a decent enough game.
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Re: Darlington V Southport match thread

Post by al_quaker » Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:36 pm

super_les_mcjannet wrote:
al_quaker wrote:The effort wasn't in doubt, but a truly awful game between 2 very very average sides, topped off with an awful ref. I guess the only bright spot was Kneeshaw looked OK. Crowd was probably OK and can be viewed as a success if the club made more money that would otherwise do. But I'll be shocked if any of the extras come back after watching that. Hopefully Wednesday is worth the effort as today certainly wasn't.

On a more important note, I hope Muggleton can recover quickly from what sides a nasty injury.
Yep hope the news is as good as possible for Muggleton.

I went home at the end bored to be honest, it was just a poor match. If that is a one off then fine but not sure I could watch that most weeks, however I have enjoyed most recent games for Darlo including a 0-0 at Alfreton, 1-1 at Curzon and even the 1-2 defeat to Spenny was a decent enough game.
Yes hopefully just one of those games. Just a shame it coincided with a ticket offer.

I'm not sure Ainge up front works in the system we are playing. A 442 with some proper width is probably how we would need to set up to give him a chance of being effective up front. But then the dilemma is whether that would ruin our new found (relative) solidity. Hopefully we can grind out a few wins soon to guarantee safety and then can try and work out whether there is a future for Ainge up front for us.

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Re: Darlington V Southport match thread

Post by princes town » Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:53 pm

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carlodarlo wrote:As something to compare to Carlisle did an 8k for MK promotion today and they got nearly 10500 through the gate, an increase nearly 3 times their average attendance. All today's done is convinced me that there is no future at BM for us..
Sorry can you explain the link between this and the future at BM?

Is suggestion that if we had played this at the Arena it would have worked? Because I am pretty sure we did the whole £10 offer a few times at the arena and the impact was negligible.
basically we attract new visitors through the price promotion and they like the BM experience so much that they come back. Unfortunately, the experience is not good and less so when the crowds increase because sightlines are inadequate on one side. It'not a bad argument to be honest. I've always though that 1500 is about the max the ground can genuinely hold without further elevation.

I talked to a Sunderland friend with a passing interest in darlington because he was brought up here. He felt that £10 was the max we should charge. It's a difficult one because there is no real evidence abot what economists call price elasticity of demand for the game at this level. I've alwasy thought that success on the pitch would generally override issues about price range. Nevertheless, price probably is an issue for the floating voter if you can't provide a good match day experience either . BM currently gets 2 stars in the away fab guide so there is a problem. However, when things are not exciting on the pitch price becomes an even bigger issue particularly in an area struggling with stagnant wages. Hence, why I'm generally in favour of flexible pricing so welcome the initiative today by the club, particularly for young people. As has been stated earlier, Revenues were up 40% so that is a positive.
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Re: Darlington V Southport match thread

Post by carlodarlo » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:33 pm

lo36789 wrote:
carlodarlo wrote:As something to compare to Carlisle did an 8k for MK promotion today and they got nearly 10500 through the gate, an increase nearly 3 times their average attendance. All today's done is convinced me that there is no future at BM for us..
Sorry can you explain the link between this and the future at BM?

Is suggestion that if we had played this at the Arena it would have worked? Because I am pretty sure we did the whole £10 offer a few times at the arena and the impact was negligible.

No mate my point was that another club did an offer today and trebled their average crowd. We did a good offer and didn't get anywhere near that. As has been said there is a number of factors that could account for this but the main one for me is that BM is just not capable of drawing in a good crowd no matter what we do. We sold out the first game, the game itself was a good one, we were high in the league at the time but the overall feeling from the floating fan was one that they wouldn't return and by and large they haven't.
Divas has said even if we let people in for free we would struggle to get 2,000 in. The question is why when we have shown in recent times we have about a high of 10,000 floating fans which we took to a cup final in London. Yes I know it's a cup final and teams at our level will always take a much higher attendance for a game like that but those people are still out there and for me the reason we can't attract these fans back even for a one off offer is where we play. Maybe my expectations are unrealistically high but I don't think it should be too big of an ask for a club like us to attract at least 2,000 through the gate at £10 a ticket.

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Re: Darlington V Southport match thread

Post by super_les_mcjannet » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:40 pm

The main factor was the Carlisle v MK Dons was a big play off game in league two.

I don't see how this has much significance in comparing with Darlo v Southport in Nat North below mid table clash.
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Re: Darlington V Southport match thread

Post by al_quaker » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:41 pm

Big games in League 2 drawing a decent crowd - those were the days :(

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Re: Darlington V Southport match thread

Post by super_les_mcjannet » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:44 pm

carlodarlo wrote:
lo36789 wrote:
carlodarlo wrote:As something to compare to Carlisle did an 8k for MK promotion today and they got nearly 10500 through the gate, an increase nearly 3 times their average attendance. All today's done is convinced me that there is no future at BM for us..
Sorry can you explain the link between this and the future at BM?

Is suggestion that if we had played this at the Arena it would have worked? Because I am pretty sure we did the whole £10 offer a few times at the arena and the impact was negligible.

No mate my point was that another club did an offer today and trebled their average crowd. We did a good offer and didn't get anywhere near that. As has been said there is a number of factors that could account for this but the main one for me is that BM is just not capable of drawing in a good crowd no matter what we do. We sold out the first game, the game itself was a good one, we were high in the league at the time but the overall feeling from the floating fan was one that they wouldn't return and by and large they haven't.
Divas has said even if we let people in for free we would struggle to get 2,000 in. The question is why when we have shown in recent times we have about a high of 10,000 floating fans which we took to a cup final in London. Yes I know it's a cup final and teams at our level will always take a much higher attendance for a game like that but those people are still out there and for me the reason we can't attract these fans back even for a one off offer is where we play. Maybe my expectations are unrealistically high but I don't think it should be too big of an ask for a club like us to attract at least 2,000 through the gate at £10 a ticket.
But those 10k fans didn't go to the Arena the next season after the cup final.

I do agree that a better ground would bring in more fans, although not to the level some people would think.

Winning football has to be thrown in also and that's something we can't guarantee.
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Re: Darlington V Southport match thread

Post by Yarblockos » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:45 pm

divas wrote:I doubt we’d get 2k it we let everyone in for free unfortunately - that number is just totally unrealistic at the moment. Have we ever hit that number apart from a play off or Spennymoor game? It’s also not relevant to look at the crowd versus the average. Truth is numbers had dropped to around 1100 for a “normal” Saturday. I’d classify the Southport game as having as much appeal as the Nuneaton and Kidderminster games where we had attracted around 1100. Attendances were on the slide and the offer today was about bringing more cash through the turnstile than we had been. We managed to do that so I’d class it as a relative success.
We asked people to pay less at the turnstiles, the fact that more turned up does not mean we took more cash!

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Re: Darlington V Southport match thread

Post by AndyPark » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:45 pm

carlodarlo wrote:As something to compare to Carlisle did an 8k for MK promotion today and they got nearly 10500 through the gate, an increase nearly 3 times their average attendance. All today's done is convinced me that there is no future at BM for us..
But weren’t Carlisle charging £2 per ticket :roll:
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Re: Darlington V Southport match thread

Post by super_les_mcjannet » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:46 pm

al_quaker wrote:Big games in League 2 drawing a decent crowd - those were the days :(
Forget all thoughts of league 2 Al, for you the league 2 war is over (said in a strange WW2 German accent).
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Re: Darlington V Southport match thread

Post by al_quaker » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:48 pm

super_les_mcjannet wrote:
al_quaker wrote:Big games in League 2 drawing a decent crowd - those were the days :(
Forget all thoughts of league 2 Al, for you the league 2 war is over (said in a strange WW2 German accent).
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Re: Darlington V Southport match thread

Post by super_les_mcjannet » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:49 pm

Yarblockos wrote:
divas wrote:I doubt we’d get 2k it we let everyone in for free unfortunately - that number is just totally unrealistic at the moment. Have we ever hit that number apart from a play off or Spennymoor game? It’s also not relevant to look at the crowd versus the average. Truth is numbers had dropped to around 1100 for a “normal” Saturday. I’d classify the Southport game as having as much appeal as the Nuneaton and Kidderminster games where we had attracted around 1100. Attendances were on the slide and the offer today was about bringing more cash through the turnstile than we had been. We managed to do that so I’d class it as a relative success.
We asked people to pay less at the turnstiles, the fact that more turned up does not mean we took more cash!
As Divas will know the figures of those games mentioned and today in terms of cash take then I will go with what he has advised.

Takings were up 40% on Nuneaton/Kidderminster I believe, whether they are the yardstick we should be using to compare is a different conversation.
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Re: Darlington V Southport match thread

Post by carlodarlo » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:57 pm

super_les_mcjannet wrote:The main factor was the Carlisle v MK Dons was a big play off game in league two.

I don't see how this has much significance in comparing with Darlo v Southport in Nat North below mid table clash.

Without Carlisle putting on that push the attendance wouldn't have even been half of what they got. The main factor was the challenge to get 8,000 through the gate. Not comparing the games or the league in which the games were played in. Just that they trebled their average attendance with an offer and we didn't. That's the only comparison because as far as I am aware they were the only club doing another offer today to try and boost the crowd.

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Re: Darlington V Southport match thread

Post by carlodarlo » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:02 pm

AndyPark wrote:
carlodarlo wrote:As something to compare to Carlisle did an 8k for MK promotion today and they got nearly 10500 through the gate, an increase nearly 3 times their average attendance. All today's done is convinced me that there is no future at BM for us..
But weren’t Carlisle charging £2 per ticket :roll:

No mate it was £10 an adult, £2 under 18's.

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Re: Darlington V Southport match thread

Post by super_les_mcjannet » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:07 pm

carlodarlo wrote:
super_les_mcjannet wrote:The main factor was the Carlisle v MK Dons was a big play off game in league two.

I don't see how this has much significance in comparing with Darlo v Southport in Nat North below mid table clash.

Without Carlisle putting on that push the attendance wouldn't have even been half of what they got. The main factor was the challenge to get 8,000 through the gate. Not comparing the games or the league in which the games were played in. Just that they trebled their average attendance with an offer and we didn't. That's the only comparison because as far as I am aware they were the only club doing another offer today to try and boost the crowd.
They cut prices by a minimum 55% (adult) for league 2 play off match. We cut prices by 29% (adult) for a who can finish 16th in a regional non league game.

The comparison just has too many holes to analyse especially when I check that the Carlisle is for seating and Darlo's is for standing.

As I say the ground also does make it easier, if you can guarantee a seat, with a good view etc.
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Re: Darlington V Southport match thread

Post by divas » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:09 pm

Yarblockos wrote:
divas wrote:I doubt we’d get 2k it we let everyone in for free unfortunately - that number is just totally unrealistic at the moment. Have we ever hit that number apart from a play off or Spennymoor game? It’s also not relevant to look at the crowd versus the average. Truth is numbers had dropped to around 1100 for a “normal” Saturday. I’d classify the Southport game as having as much appeal as the Nuneaton and Kidderminster games where we had attracted around 1100. Attendances were on the slide and the offer today was about bringing more cash through the turnstile than we had been. We managed to do that so I’d class it as a relative success.
We asked people to pay less at the turnstiles, the fact that more turned up does not mean we took more cash!
No it doesn’t, but the fact we took more cash means took more cash!

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Re: Darlington V Southport match thread

Post by Yarblockos » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:33 pm

divas wrote:
Yarblockos wrote:
divas wrote:I doubt we’d get 2k it we let everyone in for free unfortunately - that number is just totally unrealistic at the moment. Have we ever hit that number apart from a play off or Spennymoor game? It’s also not relevant to look at the crowd versus the average. Truth is numbers had dropped to around 1100 for a “normal” Saturday. I’d classify the Southport game as having as much appeal as the Nuneaton and Kidderminster games where we had attracted around 1100. Attendances were on the slide and the offer today was about bringing more cash through the turnstile than we had been. We managed to do that so I’d class it as a relative success.
We asked people to pay less at the turnstiles, the fact that more turned up does not mean we took more cash!
No it doesn’t, but the fact we took more cash means took more cash!
We took more cash compared to what? By my calculations, we cut prices by 28% and the attendance was up 27% on the expected 1100. So how did we take more cash?

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Re: Darlington V Southport match thread

Post by super_les_mcjannet » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:39 pm

Yarblockos wrote:
divas wrote:
Yarblockos wrote:
divas wrote:I doubt we’d get 2k it we let everyone in for free unfortunately - that number is just totally unrealistic at the moment. Have we ever hit that number apart from a play off or Spennymoor game? It’s also not relevant to look at the crowd versus the average. Truth is numbers had dropped to around 1100 for a “normal” Saturday. I’d classify the Southport game as having as much appeal as the Nuneaton and Kidderminster games where we had attracted around 1100. Attendances were on the slide and the offer today was about bringing more cash through the turnstile than we had been. We managed to do that so I’d class it as a relative success.
We asked people to pay less at the turnstiles, the fact that more turned up does not mean we took more cash!
No it doesn’t, but the fact we took more cash means took more cash!
We took more cash compared to what? By my calculations, we cut prices by 28% and the attendance was up 27% on the expected 1100. So how did we take more cash?
You need to check how you are working it out.

If we reduced prices to say 500 pay on the day customers by 28% but increased by say 300 people at the lower prices that would be an increase in overall take.

Say 500 people we reduce on average by £3 that would be a loss of £1,500 however if 300 people paid on average £7 each we would bring extra £2,100 equals a £600 increase before VAT.

What are your figures behind your percentages, be good to see your working outs.
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Re: Darlington V Southport match thread

Post by HarrytheQuaker » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:44 pm

carlodarlo wrote:Looks like I may be in the minority with this but I think the crowd was poor today. Dropping prices we should have been looking at hitting 2k. Not sure what we average this season but im guessing it won't be far off the 1400 we got today.
As something to compare to Carlisle did an 8k for MK promotion today and they got nearly 10500 through the gate, an increase nearly 3 times their average attendance. All today's done is convinced me that there is no future at BM for us..
Finally people are waking up to the fact we ain't gonna get 2000 or more at BM it doesn't matter what price it is.. But I will say I were in hospitallity today and Joanne and team do a great job and it's well worth the money

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Re: Darlington V Southport match thread

Post by divas » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:50 pm

Yarblockos wrote:
divas wrote:
Yarblockos wrote:
divas wrote:I doubt we’d get 2k it we let everyone in for free unfortunately - that number is just totally unrealistic at the moment. Have we ever hit that number apart from a play off or Spennymoor game? It’s also not relevant to look at the crowd versus the average. Truth is numbers had dropped to around 1100 for a “normal” Saturday. I’d classify the Southport game as having as much appeal as the Nuneaton and Kidderminster games where we had attracted around 1100. Attendances were on the slide and the offer today was about bringing more cash through the turnstile than we had been. We managed to do that so I’d class it as a relative success.
We asked people to pay less at the turnstiles, the fact that more turned up does not mean we took more cash!
No it doesn’t, but the fact we took more cash means took more cash!
We took more cash compared to what? By my calculations, we cut prices by 28% and the attendance was up 27% on the expected 1100. So how did we take more cash?
We took more cash compared to the two last similar Saturday games against Nuneaton and Kidderminster. Do I really have to spell it out, not everyone pays on the day - around half of the attendance have already paid via season tickets, that’s why when you get down to the bare numbers on attendances like 1100 this offer was never really a risk for a fixture like this.

Regardless of what the attendance is, the cash in the bank is key and we’re 40% up as I’ve already said in terms of cash that has been banked.

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Re: Darlington V Southport match thread

Post by Yarblockos » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:08 pm

super_les_mcjannet wrote:
Yarblockos wrote:
divas wrote:
Yarblockos wrote:
divas wrote:I doubt we’d get 2k it we let everyone in for free unfortunately - that number is just totally unrealistic at the moment. Have we ever hit that number apart from a play off or Spennymoor game? It’s also not relevant to look at the crowd versus the average. Truth is numbers had dropped to around 1100 for a “normal” Saturday. I’d classify the Southport game as having as much appeal as the Nuneaton and Kidderminster games where we had attracted around 1100. Attendances were on the slide and the offer today was about bringing more cash through the turnstile than we had been. We managed to do that so I’d class it as a relative success.
We asked people to pay less at the turnstiles, the fact that more turned up does not mean we took more cash!
No it doesn’t, but the fact we took more cash means took more cash!
We took more cash compared to what? By my calculations, we cut prices by 28% and the attendance was up 27% on the expected 1100. So how did we take more cash?
You need to check how you are working it out.

If we reduced prices to say 500 pay on the day customers by 28% but increased by say 300 people at the lower prices that would be an increase in overall take.

Say 500 people we reduce on average by £3 that would be a loss of £1,500 however if 300 people paid on average £7 each we would bring extra £2,100 equals a £600 increase before VAT.

What are your figures behind your percentages, be good to see your working outs.
Dropping £14 to £10 is a drop of 28%. 1100 to 1400 is an increase of 27%. I'm using a figure of 1100 paying £14 versus 1400 paying £10. Just a rough approximate, but you are correct, if we only have 500 pay on the day supporters then I can see it would work as a small increase.

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Re: Darlington V Southport match thread

Post by super_les_mcjannet » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:17 pm

Yarblockos wrote:
super_les_mcjannet wrote:
Yarblockos wrote:
divas wrote:
Yarblockos wrote:We asked people to pay less at the turnstiles, the fact that more turned up does not mean we took more cash!
No it doesn’t, but the fact we took more cash means took more cash!
We took more cash compared to what? By my calculations, we cut prices by 28% and the attendance was up 27% on the expected 1100. So how did we take more cash?
You need to check how you are working it out.

If we reduced prices to say 500 pay on the day customers by 28% but increased by say 300 people at the lower prices that would be an increase in overall take.

Say 500 people we reduce on average by £3 that would be a loss of £1,500 however if 300 people paid on average £7 each we would bring extra £2,100 equals a £600 increase before VAT.

What are your figures behind your percentages, be good to see your working outs.
Dropping £14 to £10 is a drop of 28%. 1100 to 1400 is an increase of 27%. I'm using a figure of 1100 paying £14 versus 1400 paying £10. Just a rough approximate, but you are correct, if we only have 500 pay on the day supporters then I can see it would work as a small increase.
So only say 50% pay £14 and drop to £10 a chunk concessions/junior only dropped by £1, so you need to understand the percentage of each pot.

We have approx. 650 at each game that do not pay (500 club/ST etc.), so yes we don't have anywhere near 1,110 paying £14, probably at best we have say 350.

Divas has the facts and we are up 40% (revenue) v's Nuneaton/Kidderminster, which I guess was the expectation to compare. You can change your expectations and if you move the numbers enough you can make it was a loss, however you do it's not a guarantee of what we would have got if the offer was never brought through. It's based on averages and expectations.
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Re: Darlington V Southport match thread

Post by Darlofan97 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:03 am

Simon Ainge is a strange one. A very good player at this level, but only at centre-half. He looks poor upfront and just reminds me of when we put Alan White up top in the 15/16 season. Constantly caught offside and slows the game down.

Ironically a very good player at this level is getting stick for either his, or his manager’s belief, that he can play up-front.

We looked better yesterday when Thompson, Kneeshaw & Saunders were playing as forwards. The latter two can turn bad balls over the top in to good ones, Ainge cannot do that.

I just can’t see what Ainge offers as a forward when we don’t play wingers, or have Saunders playing off him. He needs to be used as a centre half for the remainder of the season and a centre forward as an absolute emergency.

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Re: Darlington V Southport match thread

Post by don'tbuythesun » Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:11 am

35 goals in 54 games for Harrogate tells me he can play as a striker but he didn't score in ten games at Wrexham and he's hardly scored for us so maybe we just play him at the back or not at all?
On the money front don't we have three home games on the trot? Hopefully that will help the cash flow.
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Re: Darlington V Southport match thread

Post by Darlogramps » Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:15 am

don'tbuythesun wrote:35 goals in 54 games for Harrogate tells me he can play as a striker but he didn't score in ten games at Wrexham and he's hardly scored for us so maybe we just play him at the back or not at all?
The 35 goals were before he suffered a really serious injury though. He's not been the same player since, and probably never will be.

I agree completely with DarloFan97 (a rare occurrence!) that we're not going to see the best out of him as a forward. I know some say we should play him as a forward because we signed him for that purpose. But he just hasn't delivered at all, and we look quicker, sharper and more dangerous when using others in the forward line. Now Kneeshaw is on board, it reduces the necessity to use Ainge so if we do play him, it should be at centre back where he has looked decent this season.
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