BM or HP

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Which ground do you prefer Blackwell Meadow or Heritage Park?

Poll runs till Sat May 25, 2019 8:40 pm

Blackwell Meadow
13
57%
Heritage Park
10
43%
 
Total votes: 23

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BM or HP

Post by Darlo_Pete » Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:40 pm

Not that we can move back to HP, but I was wondering which ground you prefer Blackwell Meadow or Heritage Park?

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Re: BM or HP

Post by super_les_mcjannet » Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:45 pm

I just don't see the point in this really.

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Re: BM or HP

Post by Darlo_Pete » Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:48 pm

I think it will show how many of our fans don't like BM.

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Re: BM or HP

Post by tdk1 » Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:49 pm

I continue to not see the point in this. What would be the benefit of finding out people don't like bm? Will it suddenly generate 5 million quid out of nowhere?

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Re: BM or HP

Post by super_les_mcjannet » Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:50 pm

Darlo_Pete wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:48 pm
I think it will show how many of our fans don't like BM.
And what do we do with that information? You should have added the Arena is a 3rd options as well then.

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Re: BM or HP

Post by tdk1 » Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:51 pm

Or south park, we could play there if everyone decides they don't like bm.

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Re: BM or HP

Post by Darlo_Pete » Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:54 pm

It will show whether our fans are happy at BM or not.

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Re: BM or HP

Post by super_les_mcjannet » Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:57 pm

Darlo_Pete wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:54 pm
It will show whether our fans are happy at BM or not.
We already know that generally people don't mind BM but can't see how we develop it with the pipe and the constant challenges of the Rugby Club.

However knowing that doesn't change anything, unless you have an alternative?

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Re: BM or HP

Post by Vodka_Vic » Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:58 pm

Holy s***, it's going to be a long close season........

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Re: BM or HP

Post by tdk1 » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:04 pm

Vodka_Vic wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:58 pm
Holy s***, it's going to be a long close season........
I'm particularly looking forward to the "we need somebody who has a passion for the club" chat, and various calls for ex-players to return.

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Re: BM or HP

Post by Emdubya » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:17 pm

Darlo_Pete wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:40 pm
Not that we can move back to HP, but I was wondering which ground you prefer Blackwell Meadow or Heritage Park?
Can’t remember a more pointless post but I’m willing to bet it was one of yours,

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Re: BM or HP

Post by Vodka_Vic » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:26 pm

You don't need to go out and buy a Toblerone tdk, just get the one off Simon Ainge's head.

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Re: BM or HP

Post by biccynana » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:35 pm

If you must do this, at least get the name of the ground right, Pete.
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Re: BM or HP

Post by murtonquaker » Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:07 pm

Come on man, give your head a shake...

As nice a little ground as HP is, it is not in Darlo, I would rather watch Darlo in Darlo, not 12 miles away with the inevitable decline in support

I dont like BM personally, but that is not going make me vote for HP.



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Re: BM or HP

Post by tdk1 » Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:20 pm

I went in the seats for the first time last week and they're actually pretty good, the view is decent. A steeper terrace at the a66 end (or at least on the part without the pipe) and it wouldn't be too bad. Its a pisser that we can't do anything down the pavilion side, but the food is something that can be worked on and we've already made some progress.

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Re: BM or HP

Post by theoriginalfatcat » Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:51 pm

This poll’s been started by the person who two days ago thought it was pointless discussing who would take over from Tommy Wright - as there wasn’t a vacancy.
Mr Singh said this " I'm not expecting to get back any of the money I've already put in, I'm prepared to write it off for the future of the club. I'm not hanging in to make any kind of financial gain in the short or long term - if someone was prepared to come in and take the club off my hands, I'd be more than willing to discuss it"

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Re: BM or HP

Post by shawry » Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:56 pm

murtonquaker wrote:Come on man, give your head a shake...

As nice a little ground as HP is, it is not in Darlo, I would rather watch Darlo in Darlo, not 12 miles away with the inevitable decline in support

I dont like BM personally, but that is not going make me vote for HP.



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On the flip side, I dont live in darlo, so coming to games means travelling either way, and despite it being further I preferred HP.

That said, a poll stating do you prefer BM or HP is not the same as showing our fans dislike BM, si I'd still agree it's pointless

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Re: BM or HP

Post by B_Little » Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:57 am

HP
Reece Styche as player manager

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Re: BM or HP

Post by lo36789 » Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:13 am

All it proves is that people preferred match experience at HP.

There are many factors to that;

- we won a lot more games at Heritage Park
- there was more (illegal) elevation at Heritage Park

But also;

- we had less revenue streams at Heritage Park
- it wasn’t in Darlo
- we would be playing in them EvoStik unable to be promoted if at Heritage Park

I prefer watching us in the NLN than NPL so it’s BM for me.

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Re: BM or HP

Post by Beano » Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:55 am

BM is far better.

I had a much better viewpoint at HP because I always stood on the (out of bounds) embankment.

When the embankment was enforced close (as it was supposed to be every game), the view was the same as BM.

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Re: BM or HP

Post by real_darlo_85 » Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:17 am

Beano wrote:
Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:55 am
BM is far better.

I had a much better viewpoint at HP because I always stood on the (out of bounds) embankment.

When the embankment was enforced close (as it was supposed to be every game), the view was the same as BM.
This is what I can't get my head round too. I have been to BM twice now and I'll admit, that yesterday felt like the ground was slightly more like a football ground - the last time I was there was before the extended seating existed. Of the flat areas I think what people forget is the proximity of the playing surface to the terraces, this is why I'm guessing people complain about viewing matches there, it's the perception of feeling further away from the action. Other than that I think it's adequate enough for the time being.
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Re: BM or HP

Post by H1987 » Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:39 am

Absolutely mental. Darlington fans ability to moan never ceases to amaze.

Objectively, Blackwell is now better in every single way than Heritage Park, other than the memories associated with it.

I liked HP, but the bar was smaller, the seating capacity was far worse, the tinshed was smaller, the overall capacity was smaller, we had no branding and no income there at all, and it wasn’t in Darlington!

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Re: BM or HP

Post by al_quaker » Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:47 am

H1987 wrote: Objectively, Blackwell is now better in every single way than Heritage Park, other than the memories associated with it.
Disagree - the view from the stands was better at HP than is at BM, and similarly the flat standing view was better at HP.

But a pointless thread - we are at BM for the foreseeable future. It’s an awful place to watch football in my opinion, with terrible views all around the ground, but it is what it is and we just have to deal with it for now

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Re: BM or HP

Post by divas » Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:52 am

al_quaker wrote:
Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:47 am
H1987 wrote: Objectively, Blackwell is now better in every single way than Heritage Park, other than the memories associated with it.
Disagree - the view from the stands was better at HP than is at BM, and similarly the flat standing view was better at HP.

But a pointless thread - we are at BM for the foreseeable future. It’s an awful place to watch football in my opinion, with terrible views all around the ground, but it is what it is and we just have to deal with it for now
I disagree. My view is infinitely better than it was at HP stood on a grass bank piecing the game together between two dugouts.

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BM or HP

Post by al_quaker » Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:55 am

Yes the grass bank was awful - I never understood the appeal!

Although to clarify my original post - the seats at HP > seats at BM. Flat standing at HP > flat standing at BM.

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Re: BM or HP

Post by divas » Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:58 am

Again, disagree, depend on where you sit I guess but certainly where I sit at BM versus HP it’s no different.

Plus there were only 200 odd seats along the side at HP and there are more than double at BM which gives more people chance of a better view than they had at HP

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Re: BM or HP

Post by al_quaker » Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:11 am

Yes all fair points. It’s individual preference at the end of the day!

I only really enjoy the view at football with some proper height down the side. It was refreshing to stand pitch side for a while at HP, but I am over that personally.

So I’ve resigned myself to probably never enjoying the view at home matches again. I can’t see how we will ever get a proper stand built at BM, or elsewhere due to finances. Which is somewhat depressing, but it is what it is.

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Re: BM or HP

Post by Ghost_Of_1883 » Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:20 am

If for example we develop the open end with a terrace or seated stand in order to get the capacity above 4,000, then a 6 or 8 row deep stand will simply not give us the required extra capacity.

So we'll have to build a "proper stand" as you call it, at some point.
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Re: BM or HP

Post by al_quaker » Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:28 am

Yes - behind the goal though. Getting something built at the open end will improve the place no doubt, but it won’t make me enjoy home games any more. Like I said, it’s all individual preferences though. I fully accept some people will think the BM experience is great and I’m moaning, but that’s how I feel.

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Re: BM or HP

Post by Ghost_Of_1883 » Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:33 am

I agree, I really don't like BM at all.
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