Finally an achievement in the FA Cup & Trophy

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Finally an achievement in the FA Cup & Trophy

Post by super_les_mcjannet » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:20 pm

Well when I say achievement I mean they are paying teams that lose in the rounds some cash also.

So if we go out in the 2nd round qualifier in the FA Cup and 3rd round preliminary in the FA Trophy we will at least earn some money.

FA Cup 2nd round qualifier losers - £2,250
FA Trophy losers 3rd round preliminary - £1,250

So that's £3.5k more than we got last year, even if we just got the same results :)

The FA get some negative but they have put more prize money in the non league rounds recently and adding money for the losers will really help the clubs at the non league steps. I do think this is a good move for all clubs.

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Re: Finally an achievement in the FA Cup & Trophy

Post by norwich darlo » Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:37 am

Les let's be positive! what do the winners get?

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Re: Finally an achievement in the FA Cup & Trophy

Post by shildonlad » Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:46 am

Folk say the fa need to do more to stop so many non league clubs going under but this extra prize money is a step in a right direction. Mind not everyone will be happy as even less (if any) step 6 sides get to enter the fa cup now but with restructuring the fa needs to have a cut off point somewhere as they only have so much to give out for prize money
I may not live in the north east anymore but i still support the north east teams

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Re: Finally an achievement in the FA Cup & Trophy

Post by Darlo_Pete » Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:06 am

I know we nearly always fail in cup competitions and any money would be welcome, but is it only me that thinks it is strange for the FA to reward failure?

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Post by Maurice_Peddelty » Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:31 am

Darlo_Pete wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:06 am
I know we nearly always fail in cup competitions and any money would be welcome, but is it only me that thinks it is strange for the FA to reward failure?
Thing is Pete, in the qualifying rounds it is very feasible for a home team team to lose money from staging an FA Cup or Trophy match. Maybe not at our level, but certainly Northern League clubs it is quite possible that gate receipts don't cover the referees expenses and away teams travel costs. So the money provided by the FA ensures that the tie is viable win or lose.

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Re: Finally an achievement in the FA Cup & Trophy

Post by Darlo_Pete » Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:20 am

Maurice_Peddelty wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:31 am
Darlo_Pete wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:06 am
I know we nearly always fail in cup competitions and any money would be welcome, but is it only me that thinks it is strange for the FA to reward failure?
Thing is Pete, in the qualifying rounds it is very feasible for a home team team to lose money from staging an FA Cup or Trophy match. Maybe not at our level, but certainly Northern League clubs it is quite possible that gate receipts don't cover the referees expenses and away teams travel costs. So the money provided by the FA ensures that the tie is viable win or lose.
Fair point I hadn't thought of that.

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Re: Finally an achievement in the FA Cup & Trophy

Post by murtonquaker » Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:50 am

Not sure if it is changing this year, but last year it was

The Prize money from last season was:-

Extra Preliminary £2,250 (Winning side); £750 (Losing side)

Preliminary £2,890 (Winning side); £960 (Losing side)

First Round Qual £6,000

Second Round Qual £9,000

Third Round Qual £15,000

Fourth Round Qual £25,000

First Round Proper £36,000

Second Round Proper £54,000

Third Round Proper £135,000

Fourth Round Proper £180,000

Fifth Round Proper £360,000

Quarter Final £720,000

Semi Final (Winner) £1,800,000

Semi Final (Loser) £900,000

Final (Runners-Up) £1,800,000

Final (Winner) £3,600,000

A run to the First Round can potentially be around 50 stacks

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Re: Finally an achievement in the FA Cup & Trophy

Post by spen666 » Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:01 am

shildonlad wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:46 am
….. Mind not everyone will be happy as even less (if any) step 6 sides get to enter the fa cup now but with restructuring the fa needs to have a cut off point somewhere as they only have so much to give out for prize money
That is a little misleading spin.

The same number of non league teams enter the FA Cup as in previous years. The recent restructuring has meant more teams at levels 1-5 than previous.

There is no change in the number of non league sides getting entry to the FA Cup.

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Re: Finally an achievement in the FA Cup & Trophy

Post by Quaker85 » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:32 pm

Spen is correct. The no of entries is fixed at 736 as was last year.


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Re: Finally an achievement in the FA Cup & Trophy

Post by don'tbuythesun » Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:29 pm

I think the point was that there are less or no step 6 clubs? Not that there are less non-league sides entered.

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Re: Finally an achievement in the FA Cup & Trophy

Post by Quaker85 » Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:04 pm

No it’s all a smokescreen as a lot of step 6 clubs are now at step 5 as a consequence of the new step 3 league. They all shifted up.


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Re: Finally an achievement in the FA Cup & Trophy

Post by don'tbuythesun » Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:33 pm

Ah, okay.

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