Small clubs in the north west

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Re: Small clubs in the north west

Post by spen666 » Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:12 am

shildonlad wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:02 am
THeres good and bad points of fan ownership im sure and the likes of bury prove its advantages, but one thing thats not been mentioned on here is the clubs that were rescued by fans after bad ownership who later accepted outside investment that they deemed suitable. Portsmouth and york are good examples of this. The fans must have done there homework and deemed it the best option. In my opinion the best model is a consortium with a mix of fans, local business men and investors, no single guy to carry the load and still a bit fan involvement
Swansea are another example and its been a mixed bag for them. They did get to Premiership and may be heading back there, but lots of fans remain unhappy at situation since fans lost control

I'm sure the Swansea / Darlington fan (whose name I can't immediately recall) can give more insight into what has happened there

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Re: Small clubs in the north west

Post by theoriginalfatcat » Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:30 am

en passant wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:54 am
As our own club has been through the careless owner experience you can certainly sympathise with any set of fans, who like ourselves, hoped the control of the club was in safe hands. It is also clear to see how it is easy to get seduced by the availability of money to buy yourself some success. I still remember the chants from our own crowd at Feethams when we believed that George Reynolds was the Messiah. The cry of "We're so rich it's unbelievable" lives long in the memory. And clearly there are those at our club who would be willing, if the opportunity arose, to take a chance on another dream of the Promised Land of endless football success.

There seems to be little that can be done by the football authorities to prevent a wealthy potential owner taking over a club if the club is willing to get into bed with him or her. The best they can do is reinforce the message that bad owners can lead to bad outcomes if the magic money tree gets chopped down. If you speculate to accumulate at the bookies and lose your house due to making bad bets you cannot expect someone to say it's OK and give you a new house back as if nothing had gone wrong.

In the Bury situation it would send the wrong message, if they should be able to continue trading after a year long hiatus, to allow them back at the L2 level. They speculated too much to get a promotion and found that this was unsustainable and they are asking that the only penalty is a year off to stabilise their finances and then go back to where they were before they hit the crisis point . Surely this is no caution to other clubs who would be willing to take a chance on spending cash they do not have and hoping that it all turns out fine, knowing that if it didn't you could still take up again where you were with the only disappointment that you would lose a year's worth of football. Surely it would make no sense for the EFL to actively encourage such a move.
An extremely good post. :thumbup:

I feel sorry for the Bury fans however if they turn up again in League two, it's thumbs up for dodgy geezers everywhere, and thumbs down for well run clubs and football.
Mr Singh said this " I'm not expecting to get back any of the money I've already put in, I'm prepared to write it off for the future of the club. I'm not hanging in to make any kind of financial gain in the short or long term - if someone was prepared to come in and take the club off my hands, I'd be more than willing to discuss it"

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Re: Small clubs in the north west

Post by boris » Sat Sep 07, 2019 1:04 pm

Darlogramps wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:47 pm
Darlo_lad wrote:
Darlogramps wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:38 pm
biccynana wrote:
Darlo_lad wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:01 pm

Dear me here's another comedian. Every club should have realistic ambition, it's what drives football. Just as well you lot weren't running man city when the oil money turned up.
Still no real answers then?
He hasn’t. The guy is a troll who’s never been to a Darlo game in his life.
Someone disagrees with you so they must be a troll and not a true fan?? Whatever if that's your level of argument jog on
See my earlier post. Nothing to do with disagreeing. It’s to do with your alleged opinion not containing any facts, reasoning or sensible justification. Your opinion is full of holes, contradictions and self-delusion.

If you’re so thick as to not be able to understand that, you can jog on yourself, troll-boy.
I think he had a good point that people have acknowledged later in the thread about taking the chance and relenquishing control at some point after appropriate due dilligence. IIt's a pity the expected opinionated regulars on here reverted to the usual name calling and questioning if someone is really a fan. It stifles debate which is why i along with many don't bother.

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