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Ben Hedley

Post by Darlopartisan » Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:24 pm

Looks like he’s signing from Bradford PA, available for Saturdays game

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Re: Ben Hedley

Post by HarrytheQuaker » Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:28 pm

He only signed for them in june, strange one that

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Re: Ben Hedley

Post by OnTheTerraces » Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:31 pm

Midfielder in all the articles online. Very odd signing.

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Re: Ben Hedley

Post by divas » Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:54 pm

HarrytheQuaker wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:28 pm
He only signed for them in june, strange one that

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Signed by the now ex manager as his first signing who had coached him at Morecambe. New manager comes in wants to make changes, face doesn’t fit. Gateshead born so another local lad and by all accounts a leader despite still only being 20.

Sure he scored against us the other week.

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Re: Ben Hedley

Post by real_darlo_85 » Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:24 am

divas wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:54 pm
HarrytheQuaker wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:28 pm
He only signed for them in june, strange one that

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Signed by the now ex manager as his first signing who had coached him at Morecambe. New manager comes in wants to make changes, face doesn’t fit. Gateshead born so another local lad and by all accounts a leader despite still only being 20.

Sure he scored against us the other week.
No they had two players with similar names, Headley was the goalscorer and we are signing Hedley. Maybe their manager wants to cut out some confusion in his squad? ;)
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Re: Ben Hedley

Post by quakerste » Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:26 am

States he is a midfielder so is he going alongside Hatfield or has he previously played as a right back?

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Re: Ben Hedley

Post by Ghost_Of_1883 » Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:29 am

real_darlo_85 wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:24 am
divas wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:54 pm
HarrytheQuaker wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:28 pm
He only signed for them in june, strange one that

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Signed by the now ex manager as his first signing who had coached him at Morecambe. New manager comes in wants to make changes, face doesn’t fit. Gateshead born so another local lad and by all accounts a leader despite still only being 20.

Sure he scored against us the other week.
No they had two players with similar names, Headley was the goalscorer and we are signing Hedley. Maybe their manager wants to cut out some confusion in his squad? ;)
Looking at the BPA squad list they only have one player called Hedley, and have no Headley?
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Re: Ben Hedley

Post by OnTheTerraces » Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:32 am

Very strange signing, do we not have a specialist 20 year old right back in Cameron Holliday?

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Re: Ben Hedley

Post by super_les_mcjannet » Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:44 am

OnTheTerraces wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:32 am
Very strange signing, do we not have a specialist 20 year old right back in Cameron Holliday?
Not that strange really, presume AA doesn’t feel he is ready to be thrown into the first team.

Seemed average to ok in friendlies to me but I don’t see him week in/week out in training.

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Re: Ben Hedley

Post by Ghost_Of_1883 » Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:47 am

super_les_mcjannet wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:44 am
OnTheTerraces wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:32 am
Very strange signing, do we not have a specialist 20 year old right back in Cameron Holliday?
Not that strange really, presume AA doesn’t feel he is ready to be thrown into the first team.

Seemed average to ok in friendlies to me but I don’t see him week in/week out in training.
It's strange if this Hedley is a midfielder though? When everyone is fit we will have plenty of midfielders to pick from.

He must be a right back though, surely?
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Re: Ben Hedley

Post by jjljks » Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:20 am

Just hope AA wasn't confused and thought he had signed J Headley the goalscorer. The squad is looking very stretched with long term injuries as well as international call-ups, so AA's hand is being forced to add players.

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Re: Ben Hedley

Post by super_les_mcjannet » Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:40 am

Ghost_Of_1883 wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:47 am
super_les_mcjannet wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:44 am
OnTheTerraces wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:32 am
Very strange signing, do we not have a specialist 20 year old right back in Cameron Holliday?
Not that strange really, presume AA doesn’t feel he is ready to be thrown into the first team.

Seemed average to ok in friendlies to me but I don’t see him week in/week out in training.
It's strange if this Hedley is a midfielder though? When everyone is fit we will have plenty of midfielders to pick from.

He must be a right back though, surely?
Well he has been signed as a RB, however BPA fans seem to think he is better as a midfielder so who knows.

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Re: Ben Hedley

Post by OnTheTerraces » Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:42 am

The Bermuda lads play tonight and Sunday so back for next week.

This lad is a midfielder and at 20 it’s not like he’s an experienced pro who can fill in a position like David Atkinson and Will Hatfield can.

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Re: Ben Hedley

Post by Quakers83 » Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:43 am

OnTheTerraces wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:32 am
Very strange signing, do we not have a specialist 20 year old right back in Cameron Holliday?
Who we signed from the Northern League, and not ready for NLN football?

I’d trust AA’s judgement over yours. :roll:

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Re: Ben Hedley

Post by Quakers83 » Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:44 am

OnTheTerraces wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:42 am
The Bermuda lads play tonight and Sunday so back for next week.

This lad is a midfielder and at 20 it’s not like he’s an experienced pro who can fill in a position like David Atkinson and Will Hatfield can.
According to Stoddart, he has been signed to play right-back.

Let’s not write him off before we’ve seen him play, FFS.

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Re: Ben Hedley

Post by Darlogramps » Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:12 am

In Hedley’s own words, he’s a central midfielder predominantly who can also play RB.
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Re: Ben Hedley

Post by D_F_C » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:59 am

Ghost_Of_1883 wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:29 am
real_darlo_85 wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:24 am
divas wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:54 pm
HarrytheQuaker wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:28 pm
He only signed for them in june, strange one that

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Signed by the now ex manager as his first signing who had coached him at Morecambe. New manager comes in wants to make changes, face doesn’t fit. Gateshead born so another local lad and by all accounts a leader despite still only being 20.

Sure he scored against us the other week.
No they had two players with similar names, Headley was the goalscorer and we are signing Hedley. Maybe their manager wants to cut out some confusion in his squad? ;)
Looking at the BPA squad list they only have one player called Hedley, and have no Headley?
He was number 16 who came on against us. Can't say I remember him. The other Headley or Hedley who scored was a left sided attacker possibly number 11 or 7

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Re: Ben Hedley

Post by HarryCharltonsCat » Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:03 pm

If you are going to sign a right back, sign a right back. Holness is a midfielder who showed he could probably fill in at right back - why sign another? Will he get in to our midfield when Liddle fit for example? If not, then not sure I see the reasoning.

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Re: Ben Hedley

Post by darlo2001uk » Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:07 pm

HarryCharltonsCat wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:03 pm
If you are going to sign a right back, sign a right back. Holness is a midfielder who showed he could probably fill in at right back - why sign another? Will he get in to our midfield when Liddle fit for example? If not, then not sure I see the reasoning.
One in, one out? A midfielder who can play right back to come in, a midfielder to leave?

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Re: Ben Hedley

Post by OnTheTerraces » Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:12 pm

Quakers83 wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:43 am
OnTheTerraces wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:32 am
Very strange signing, do we not have a specialist 20 year old right back in Cameron Holliday?
Who we signed from the Northern League, and not ready for NLN football?

I’d trust AA’s judgement over yours. :roll:
I believe Holliday is ex Hartlepool

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Re: Ben Hedley

Post by Ghost_Of_1883 » Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:28 pm

D_F_C wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:59 am
Ghost_Of_1883 wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:29 am
real_darlo_85 wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:24 am
divas wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:54 pm
HarrytheQuaker wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:28 pm
He only signed for them in june, strange one that

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Signed by the now ex manager as his first signing who had coached him at Morecambe. New manager comes in wants to make changes, face doesn’t fit. Gateshead born so another local lad and by all accounts a leader despite still only being 20.

Sure he scored against us the other week.
No they had two players with similar names, Headley was the goalscorer and we are signing Hedley. Maybe their manager wants to cut out some confusion in his squad? ;)
Looking at the BPA squad list they only have one player called Hedley, and have no Headley?
He was number 16 who came on against us. Can't say I remember him. The other Headley or Hedley who scored was a left sided attacker possibly number 11 or 7
Yeah you're right, they signed Headley on a season long loan just before playing us.
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Re: Ben Hedley

Post by Ghost_Of_1883 » Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:30 pm

HarryCharltonsCat wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:03 pm
If you are going to sign a right back, sign a right back. Holness is a midfielder who showed he could probably fill in at right back - why sign another? Will he get in to our midfield when Liddle fit for example? If not, then not sure I see the reasoning.
The Hedley signing was set up before Holness had to come on and play right back. We didn't know Holness could do that job, at that time.
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Re: Ben Hedley

Post by super_les_mcjannet » Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:26 pm

Darlogramps wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:12 am
In Hedley’s own words, he’s a central midfielder predominantly who can also play RB.
Yeah Simpson says "So you're a right back" and then Ben explains "centre midfielder predominately but can play right back".

Looks like everyone is briefed he is a RB but he still sees himself as a midfielder mainly.

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Re: Ben Hedley

Post by HarryCharltonsCat » Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:05 pm

Ghost_Of_1883 wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:30 pm
HarryCharltonsCat wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:03 pm
If you are going to sign a right back, sign a right back. Holness is a midfielder who showed he could probably fill in at right back - why sign another? Will he get in to our midfield when Liddle fit for example? If not, then not sure I see the reasoning.
The Hedley signing was set up before Holness had to come on and play right back. We didn't know Holness could do that job, at that time.
Fair enough. The point was more why sign a midfielder who can play right back rather than a right back. Not like we're crying out for another midfielder when all fit.

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Re: Ben Hedley

Post by Ghost_Of_1883 » Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:17 pm

It depends who is available within budget I guess.
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Re: Ben Hedley

Post by Spyman » Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:18 pm

Ghost_Of_1883 wrote:It depends who is available within budget I guess.
Exactly - you can't just magic up an experienced right back within budget at short notice.

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Post by Darlogramps » Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:39 pm

Also, I think Liddle is going to be first choice while Trotman is out. So it doesn’t make sense to sign a specialist RB who may not even get on the bench.

But with Trotman out, Liddle and Wheatley only just returning from injury, Bascome on international duty now (and will be again in future) and Atkinson injured too, he’ll get plenty of opportunities at RB or CM.
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Re: Ben Hedley

Post by HarryCharltonsCat » Fri Sep 06, 2019 7:33 am

Spyman wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:18 pm
Ghost_Of_1883 wrote:It depends who is available within budget I guess.
Exactly - you can't just magic up an experienced right back within budget at short notice.

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Who said experienced. We've signed a not very experienced midfielder to play there. It would also let Liddle play in his favoured position, rather than filling in for a season. Personally, think we are well enough stocked for midfielders, but it's another body in so hope it works out for him.

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Re: Ben Hedley

Post by onewayup » Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:10 am

Cam holliday, was not from hartlepool ,he was a Carlisle youth player. Where did you get the idea he was at hartlepool.

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Post by Darlogramps » Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:16 am

onewayup wrote:Cam holliday, was not from hartlepool ,he was a Carlisle youth player. Where did you get the idea he was at hartlepool.
Wrong.

He played for Hartlepool as a youth player.

See here where he’s listed as playing for Hartlepool.

https://www.carlisleunited.co.uk/news/2 ... l28nov172/
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