H1987 wrote: Darlogramps wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:34 pm
H1987 wrote:Totally irresponsible. Regardless of lessened risk outside, 1500 people in a small space is a risk we shouldn't be taking. Just because it will not harm a lot of people doesn't mean we should recklessly spread it and pass it on to others who it might.
Totally irresponsible to follow the advice of the Chief Scientific Advisor and Chief Medical Officer, you mean?
It’s all well and good taking the moral high ground, but these are clubs which will financially collapse without income. Shut them down for six weeks and clubs will struggle to stay afloat. That’s an inevitable consequence at this level.
If the official advice is they can go ahead, then so be it. I’m not saying it’s right or wrong by the way, more that I think calling it “totally irresponsible” is over the top, unless you’re lack a global pandemic strategy expert.
Nope, just common sense, and being proactive.
Better to be cautious than be dead. It’s not a moral argument, it’s recognising the severity of the situation and acting appropriately.
So you’d carry on playing every division would you? That was the official line after all.
As I said earlier (and seemingly flew over your little head), I’m not endorsing either position. I’m just explaining the counter-argument, as set out by the leading scientific and medical minds in the country, and explaining why your “better cautious than dead” hysteria is reductionist and dangerous.
The reason competitions are being postponed is because club players themselves have had to go into isolation. It’s to do with competition integrity and protecting players and staff who have been infected, rather than reducing transmission among spectators, of which the risk is very low at this stage anyway.
You can claim “common sense” all you like, but you haven’t got any evidence for it. It’s a weak tactic and can be disregarded. Are you saying the Chief Scientific Adviser and Chief Medical Officer have no common sense? Come on, stop being ridiculous.
Give me scientific expertise over H1987’s keyboard-based “common sense”. When all you have is reductionist, baseless hysteria, your argument has little credibility.
All I’m saying is the Chief Medical Officer and Chief Scientific Adviser have been pretty clear and thorough with their logic and explanations. Go too early and banning large gatherings of people when you’re well before the peak and it ends up being counter-productive. That’s because the public get fatigued and ignore the advice, and longer term it increases the likelihood of further epidemics and outbreaks, while adding strain to the NHS.
Every scientific body says this and has justified this. It’s weird you’re claiming from behind your keyboard you know better, given your lack of expertise.
Worryingly you also seem particularly satisfied for football clubs to go out of business, particularly ones like ours which would be hit worse by cancellations, as we rely on attendances to survive.