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The moment we've all been waiting for...

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:58 pm
by quaker4life

Re: The moment we've all been waiting for...

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:00 pm
by Old Git
Inevitable unfortunately

Re: The moment we've all been waiting for...

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:27 pm
by shawry
Should have made decision on Friday tbh

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Re: The moment we've all been waiting for...

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:31 pm
by Darlo_Pete
Sensible decision, we need to put the health of fans over everything else. I'm certain though that there will be a good few clubs going to the wall & the league structure, may look very different after the Coronavirus has ended, whenever that might be.

Re: The moment we've all been waiting for...

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:51 pm
by QUAKERMAN2
The 500 club renewals by the end of this month would be a massive boost for the club, really hope the majority of ST holders take up the option and let DJ know we are firmly behind him.A decent BTB would do no harm as well.
Up the Quakers

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Re: The moment we've all been waiting for...

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:09 pm
by theoriginalfatcat
Here's an interesting idea - to give any club a points deduction over this crisis would be wrong. COPIED BBC WEBPAGE

"Tranmere Rovers owner Mark Palios has said the Premier League and government should offer support to EFL clubs who face hardship because of coronavirus.

He also believes the EFL could support a process where clubs could go into administration to help their finances but not suffer points penalties.

League One Bolton began the season with a 12-point deduction after going into administration, but last season Blackpool avoided a points penalty despite going into receivership.

That came after an owner dispute, and subsequent court case, rather than financial mismanagement specifically.

Palios said: "Having been an insolvency practitioner, you could use the administration process, which was brought in to help businesses survive, in a slightly different way.

"If coronavirus tips clubs over the edge, there's an argument that this isn't because of financial mismanagement, it's because of circumstances, and therefore you could go into administration to get the benefits of protection but not take the sporting sanctions. That is something I would recommend."

Re: The moment we've all been waiting for...

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:12 am
by divas
Well after this evening’s news we can throw the entire 20/21 season in the bin, it isn’t happening barring a miracle.

Best get those vaccines on the go as this is our only way out of this now.

Re: The moment we've all been waiting for...

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 2:36 am
by Mister e
divas wrote:
Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:12 am
Well after this evening’s news we can throw the entire 20/21 season in the bin, it isn’t happening barring a miracle.

Best get those vaccines on the go as this is our only way out of this now.
Chin up divas miracles do happen - didn't we have a fa cup run this season.

Re: The moment we've all been waiting for...

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 8:02 am
by quakersfan
divas wrote:
Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:12 am
Well after this evening’s news we can throw the entire 20/21 season in the bin, it isn’t happening barring a miracle.

Best get those vaccines on the go as this is our only way out of this now.
Have to agree Divas before a vaccine I can only see businesses going bust people going bankrupt, houses re possessed and a total meltdown of the economy. Let’s all pray for a vaccine sooner than later.

Re: The moment we've all been waiting for...

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 8:53 am
by Old Git
Look no denying this is serious s***,but lets try and keep a lid on the doom and gloom. Football is a minor concern in all this and one thing that might come from all this is a complete restructuring of how the football pyramid looks post Coronavirus. Clubs may have to reform in a way similar to 1945 and start again. We are likely to be in a very different financial world and I can see vast consequences for both professional and semi professional teams in the future. Our fan ownership model could become much more widespread outside the top two divisions.
Nobody knows how life will be affected but I believe this will be a defining moment in history and we may well talk of recent years in terms of pre Coronavirus and post Coronavirus. Lets hope the latter is a period of less greed and greater co operation and even though I was an advocate of Brexit I think we may need to look again at our future relationship with the EU.

Re: The moment we've all been waiting for...

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:01 am
by theoriginalfatcat
Old Git wrote:
Tue Mar 17, 2020 8:53 am
Nobody knows how life will be affected but I believe this will be a defining moment in history and we may well talk of recent years in terms of pre Coronavirus and post Coronavirus. Lets hope the latter is a period of less greed and greater co operation and even though I was an advocate of Brexit I think we may need to look again at our future relationship with the EU.
This is a very perceptive thought re the EU. Not for discussion here but for another thread a bit later.

Re: The moment we've all been waiting for...

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:53 am
by Darlo_Pete
I think we could emerge from this Coronavirus disaster in a much stronger position than the vast majority of non-league sides & some current professional sides as well. I think the EU will be mortally damaged by current events & our country will be in a far better position to take control of our future.

Re: The moment we've all been waiting for...

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 10:44 am
by lo36789
Darlo_Pete wrote:
Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:53 am
I think the EU will be mortally damaged by current events & our country will be in a far better position to take control of our future.
I think I couldnt care less about EU / institutions right now. People are suffering regardless of whether their country is a member or not and the effort to rebuild after this will require global collaboration.

If a country thinks they can do it on their own I doubt they will succeed.

Re: The moment we've all been waiting for...

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 10:57 am
by en passant
Darlo_Pete wrote:
Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:53 am
I think we could emerge from this Coronavirus disaster in a much stronger position than the vast majority of non-league sides & some current professional sides as well. I think the EU will be mortally damaged by current events & our country will be in a far better position to take control of our future.
That last sentence looks like a straight quotation from Dominic Cummings' grand plan for world domination. Sellers and Yeatman would have been proud to have had him add this as a sequel to "1066 And All That" by declaring Britain once again as Top Nation.

Re: The moment we've all been waiting for...

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:10 am
by biccynana
Darlo_Pete wrote:
Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:53 am
I think the EU will be mortally damaged by current events
Is that you Mr President?

Re: The moment we've all been waiting for...

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:37 pm
by Vodka_Vic
Another thought to bear in mind is that a number of clubs (at our level and above and below) may not have their benefactors any more as post Coronavirus they may not have the wealth to be able to splash willy-nilly on a club. This actually happened to us when Raj's company got into financial difficulties, although he didn't manage the outcome for our club of course. As someone said, fan-owned clubs will be a much more widespread model.

Re: The moment we've all been waiting for...

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 1:32 pm
by Maurice_Peddelty
Darlo_Pete wrote:
Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:53 am
I think the EU will be mortally damaged by current events & our country will be in a far better position to take control of our future.
Just remind me Pete, which country is leading on the development of a vaccine for COVID-19?

Re: The moment we've all been waiting for...

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 2:19 pm
by quakersfan
Maurice_Peddelty wrote:
Tue Mar 17, 2020 1:32 pm
Darlo_Pete wrote:
Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:53 am
I think the EU will be mortally damaged by current events & our country will be in a far better position to take control of our future.
Just remind me Pete, which country is leading on the development of a vaccine for COVID-19?
CANADA - not bothered who claims the first effective virus but we need it asap

Re: The moment we've all been waiting for...

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:06 pm
by Maurice_Peddelty
According to 'MarketWatch, "BioNTech BNTX, a German life sciences company, plans to put its vaccine candidate, BNT162, into clinical trials in late April. This includes clinical trials in Germany and the U.S.". If successful, in my books that would kind of give a "mortally damaged" EU an advantage over the UK.

Re: The moment we've all been waiting for...

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:14 pm
by quakersfan

Re: The moment we've all been waiting for...

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:49 pm
by lo36789

Re: The moment we've all been waiting for...

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:30 pm
by quaker4life
Darlo_Pete wrote:
Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:53 am
I think we could emerge from this Coronavirus disaster in a much stronger position than the vast majority of non-league sides & some current professional sides as well.
How so?

Re: The moment we've all been waiting for...

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:22 pm
by Darlo_Pete
quaker4life wrote:
Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:30 pm
Darlo_Pete wrote:
Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:53 am
I think we could emerge from this Coronavirus disaster in a much stronger position than the vast majority of non-league sides & some current professional sides as well.
How so?
I think a lot of clubs will be mortally damaged by these turn of events. We will survive & be in a lot better financial position than many clubs around us. Therefore our position will be strengthened.

Re: The moment we've all been waiting for...

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:51 pm
by LoidLucan
Just read that Kings Lynn are facing a shortfall of around £100,000. Club chairman Stephen Cleeve has agreed to cover some of the shortfall himself but "cannot commit to being able to cover the rest at this time".

Re: The moment we've all been waiting for...

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 10:05 pm
by quaker4life
Darlo_Pete wrote:
Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:53 am
I think a lot of clubs will be mortally damaged by these turn of events. We will survive & be in a lot better financial position than many clubs around us. Therefore our position will be strengthened.
Again, out of interest, how so?

Given we are in the same situation as these other clubs what makes us an exceptional case?

Re: The moment we've all been waiting for...

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:13 am
by 50 years
I understand that one of the university colleges in London is expecting to go into human trial on a vaccine in April after "very exciting" results on mice in first trial samples. So assume there may be several country's that could be first including "ours". Not sure we are capable of manufacturing large quantities any more though.

Re: The moment we've all been waiting for...

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:51 am
by HarrytheQuaker
quaker4life wrote:
Darlo_Pete wrote:
Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:53 am
I think a lot of clubs will be mortally damaged by these turn of events. We will survive & be in a lot better financial position than many clubs around us. Therefore our position will be strengthened.
Again, out of interest, how so?

Given we are in the same situation as these other clubs what makes us an exceptional case?
Yeah I was hoping for hard facts from Pete..

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Re: The moment we've all been waiting for...

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:28 am
by theoriginalfatcat
HarrytheQuaker wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:51 am
quaker4life wrote:
Darlo_Pete wrote:
Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:53 am
I think a lot of clubs will be mortally damaged by these turn of events. We will survive & be in a lot better financial position than many clubs around us. Therefore our position will be strengthened.
Again, out of interest, how so?

Given we are in the same situation as these other clubs what makes us an exceptional case?
Yeah I was hoping for hard facts from Pete..

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We all want to know what your job is too Pete - with all this travelling around and that, are you a James Bond type spy?

Re: The moment we've all been waiting for...

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:01 pm
by AndyPark
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: The moment we've all been waiting for...

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:31 pm
by lo36789
I'd say more Johnny English than James Bond...