Darlo Uncovered

Posted: **Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:14 pm**

eddie-rowles wrote:
HarrytheQuaker wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:22 pm

eddie-rowles wrote:
LoidLucan wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:53 pm
Three thousand quid in a day is a fine start to this initiative to support our club in these exceptional circumstances.
As we are fanned owned Would be fantastic to hear of any Darlington players donating their salaries back to the club or offering to defer their salary until season restart, how about Ainge offering his salary and only accepting his BOSTON part of his salary?
Fan..I wouldn't give my salary back to my employer WHY should they??? They have mortgages and families to feed..

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Those players who have other jobs and are still receiving their main salaries, not suggesting the few young lads that have no other income. Many fans on reduced incomes are still looking to support the club, why not players

Send a email and ask the club the question

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Posted: **Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:37 pm**

another fantastic amount raised in short time from our tremendous fans ,we want this club to survive through this enforced stoppage, I personally think it will be a longer break than the FA are anticipating , everyone needs to take heed of the information being given and stop this virus spreading, the sooner people realise it's not a game and their lives are on the line and do this 2 meters apart and isolation the sooner this virus will end.
Keep safe, keep your families safe especially the elderly and look in anyone you know that are on their own, BE SAFE.

Posted: **Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:37 pm**

eddie-rowles wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:58 pm

HarrytheQuaker wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:22 pm

eddie-rowles wrote:
LoidLucan wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:53 pm
Three thousand quid in a day is a fine start to this initiative to support our club in these exceptional circumstances.
As we are fanned owned Would be fantastic to hear of any Darlington players donating their salaries back to the club or offering to defer their salary until season restart, how about Ainge offering his salary and only accepting his BOSTON part of his salary?
Fan..I wouldn't give my salary back to my employer WHY should they??? They have mortgages and families to feed..

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Those players who have other jobs and are still receiving their main salaries

Know that for a fact, eddie?

Posted: **Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:50 pm**

eddie-rowles wrote:
HarrytheQuaker wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:22 pm

eddie-rowles wrote:
LoidLucan wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:53 pm
Three thousand quid in a day is a fine start to this initiative to support our club in these exceptional circumstances.
As we are fanned owned Would be fantastic to hear of any Darlington players donating their salaries back to the club or offering to defer their salary until season restart, how about Ainge offering his salary and only accepting his BOSTON part of his salary?
Fan..I wouldn't give my salary back to my employer WHY should they??? They have mortgages and families to feed..

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Those players who have other jobs and are still receiving their main salaries, not suggesting the few young lads that have no other income. Many fans on reduced incomes are still looking to support the club, why not players

Eddie, if you were on a low wage for a struggling retailer, would you give your salary back to your employer? No you wouldn’t.

Stop making out like the players millionaires who can afford to go without pay, because they’re not. These “other” jobs are usually low-paid part-time jobs, needed because their part-time football wage doesn’t cover their cost of living for their families.

You are being unreasonable if you think players should put themselves through hardship at this time. Again, I can ask what are you doing to help the club, or your employer get through?

Stop being a plank and stop embarrassing yourself.

Posted: **Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:35 pm**

Darlogramps wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:50 pm

eddie-rowles wrote:
HarrytheQuaker wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:22 pm

eddie-rowles wrote:
LoidLucan wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:53 pm
Three thousand quid in a day is a fine start to this initiative to support our club in these exceptional circumstances.
As we are fanned owned Would be fantastic to hear of any Darlington players donating their salaries back to the club or offering to defer their salary until season restart, how about Ainge offering his salary and only accepting his BOSTON part of his salary?
Fan..I wouldn't give my salary back to my employer WHY should they??? They have mortgages and families to feed..

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Those players who have other jobs and are still receiving their main salaries, not suggesting the few young lads that have no other income. Many fans on reduced incomes are still looking to support the club, why not players
Eddie, if you were on a low wage for a struggling retailer, would you give your salary back to your employer? No you wouldn’t.

Stop making out like the players millionaires who can afford to go without pay, because they’re not. These “other” jobs are usually low-paid part-time jobs, needed because their part-time football wage doesn’t cover their cost of living for their families.

You are being unreasonable if you think players should part themselves through hardship at this time. Again, I can ask what are you doing to help the club, or your employer get through?

Stop being a plank and stop embarrassing yourself.

100% agreed, Darlogramps.

Posted: **Tue Mar 24, 2020 7:52 am**

Eddie-rowles, you look at the situation through a "fan's eyes". You may want to do everything to save your club as would most fans

The footballers are employees, not fans. They act as employees. Have you as an employee given your salary back to your employer? No? Then why should the employees of any football club ( not just Darlington).

Don't try to shame employees for not acting the way fans would .

Posted: **Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:00 pm**

spen666 wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 24, 2020 7:52 am
Eddie-rowles, you look at the situation through a "fan's eyes". You may want to do everything to save your club as would most fans

The footballers are employees, not fans. They act as employees. Have you as an employee given your salary back to your employer? No? Then why should the employees of any football club ( not just Darlington).

Don't try to shame employees for not acting the way fans would .

What initiatives have Spenny fans come up with to help their club out? Might be worth using some of their ideas if there are some good ones.

Posted: **Sun Mar 29, 2020 12:34 pm**

Their main initiative is the "leave it to Brad" initiative.

We should copy that and get Brad to keep us going as well.

Posted: **Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:36 pm**

Ghost_Of_1883 wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 29, 2020 12:34 pm
Their main initiative is the "leave it to Brad" initiative.

We should copy that and get Brad to keep us going as well.

To be fair the "leave it to Brad" initiative will be less of a risk than the "leave it to Raj" initiative employed elsewhere.

Posted: **Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:03 pm**

Brad is paying the Spenny kids fees and repaying already paid fees back , Great gesture looking after his club can't knock him

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Posted: **Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:49 am**

Just a reminder to anyone who is not aware or who may have forgotten about this fundraiser. Very bad time to be asking for money but the club really needs your help right now. Only £10 pledged in the last 24 hours so really struggling and not even a third of the way there yet. If you can help please do but totally appreciate many will have other priorities at this time. Stay safe.

Posted: **Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:47 pm**

Ive done Leamington and Curzon entrance money and will do Alty and Kings L.

Good idea from the club.

Posted: **Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:43 am**

I'm pretty sure we'll hit the target based on our previous efforts. It's a tough time for all of us and well done to everyone who contributes. It's understandable if people can't but there's still 26 days to go and people might be chucking in as games come up. I wouldn't have travelled but I'll be putting in.

Posted: **Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:53 am**

don'tbuythesun wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:43 am
I'm pretty sure we'll hit the target based on our previous efforts. It's a tough time for all of us and well done to everyone who contributes. It's understandable if people can't but there's still 26 days to go and people might be chucking in as games come up. I wouldn't have travelled but I'll be putting in.

I contribute as each game comes along to spread it out.

Posted: **Tue Apr 14, 2020 3:16 pm**

Starting to look as though we may not make the target

. Presumably Time could be extended if required.

Posted: **Tue Apr 14, 2020 4:37 pm**

dfcdfcdfc wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 14, 2020 3:16 pm
Starting to look as though we may not make the target . Presumably Time could be extended if required.

Not sure that will be possible as BTB is due to be relaunched soon.

Posted: **Tue Apr 14, 2020 5:42 pm**

Old Git wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 14, 2020 4:37 pm

dfcdfcdfc wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 14, 2020 3:16 pm
Starting to look as though we may not make the target . Presumably Time could be extended if required.
Not sure that will be possible as BTB is due to be relaunched soon.

It's all a few quid to help OUR club survive. Don't suppose it matters too much which particular pot the money ends up in, does it?

Posted: **Wed Apr 15, 2020 10:17 pm**

Anyone else "virtually"off to Southport on Saturday? Friendly pint in the club bar beforehand. It's a fixture we always get to so I'll be chipping in at the weekend. It's a nice change to put money in the away teams coffers!

Posted: **Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:17 am**

Altrincham fans have raised £20,000 for the club

No word on how spenny have got on with their fundraising

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Posted: **Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:41 am**

An article on the Stafford Rangers Website says they have fixed costs of £6,000 even when not operating. Quite scary to realise the costs involved even after furloughing staff, no games to put on etc.

Obviously, Stafford will have different costs to Darlington as they have their own ground and will have to maintain it, pay bills etc ( which are in all likelihood paid monthly across the year to spread the costs). In some respects Darlington may be better off, but if they still have to pay the "rent" costs then they could be worse off. I have no idea of the payment terms of the licence or what has been agreed with DRFC during this crisis. DRFC will still have their expenses to meet.

People tend to think that with no games going ahead and staff laid off there is no costs to a football club

Before anyone asks, I have no idea about Spennymoor's financial situation

Posted: **Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:36 am**

spen666 wrote:An article on the Stafford Rangers Website says they have fixed costs of £6,000 even when not operating. Quite scary to realise the costs involved even after furloughing staff, no games to put on etc.

Obviously, Stafford will have different costs to Darlington as they have their own ground and will have to maintain it, pay bills etc ( which are in all likelihood paid monthly across the year to spread the costs). In some respects Darlington may be better off, but if they still have to pay the "rent" costs then they could be worse off. I have no idea of the payment terms of the licence or what has been agreed with DRFC during this crisis. DRFC will still have their expenses to meet.

People tend to think that with no games going ahead and staff laid off there is no costs to a football club

Before anyone asks, I have no idea about Spennymoor's financial situation

Have you put into there boost the budget or similar scheme Spen??

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Posted: **Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:40 am**

spen666 wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:41 am
An article on the Stafford Rangers Website says they have fixed costs of £6,000 even when not operating. Quite scary to realise the costs involved even after furloughing staff, no games to put on etc.

Obviously, Stafford will have different costs to Darlington as they have their own ground and will have to maintain it, pay bills etc ( which are in all likelihood paid monthly across the year to spread the costs). In some respects Darlington may be better off, but if they still have to pay the "rent" costs then they could be worse off. I have no idea of the payment terms of the licence or what has been agreed with DRFC during this crisis. DRFC will still have their expenses to meet.

People tend to think that with no games going ahead and staff laid off there is no costs to a football club

Before anyone asks, I have no idea about Spennymoor's financial situation

That is actually an interesting point. I believe we are ordinarily paying rent per match day?

I wonder if us not having any matches for potentially 6+ months might sharpen a few minds at the Rugby club in regard to renegotiating a better deal for the football club in the long term.

Posted: **Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:03 am**

H1987 wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:40 am

spen666 wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:41 am
An article on the Stafford Rangers Website says they have fixed costs of £6,000 even when not operating. Quite scary to realise the costs involved even after furloughing staff, no games to put on etc.

Obviously, Stafford will have different costs to Darlington as they have their own ground and will have to maintain it, pay bills etc ( which are in all likelihood paid monthly across the year to spread the costs). In some respects Darlington may be better off, but if they still have to pay the "rent" costs then they could be worse off. I have no idea of the payment terms of the licence or what has been agreed with DRFC during this crisis. DRFC will still have their expenses to meet.

People tend to think that with no games going ahead and staff laid off there is no costs to a football club

Before anyone asks, I have no idea about Spennymoor's financial situation
That is actually an interesting point. I believe we are ordinarily paying rent per match day?

I wonder if us not having any matches for potentially 6+ months might sharpen a few minds at the Rugby club in regard to renegotiating a better deal for the football club in the long term.

I wasn't clear whether DFC paid tDRFC £X per year that covered the 21 league games and then paid extra for the cup games/ extra games. I was not sure if the £x per year was an annual fee paid for example monthly or was apportioned per game and paid after / before the game

Either way, a lot of the costs of any football club continue through the lockdown

Posted: **Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:00 pm**

H1987 wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:40 am

spen666 wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:41 am
An article on the Stafford Rangers Website says they have fixed costs of £6,000 even when not operating. Quite scary to realise the costs involved even after furloughing staff, no games to put on etc.

Obviously, Stafford will have different costs to Darlington as they have their own ground and will have to maintain it, pay bills etc ( which are in all likelihood paid monthly across the year to spread the costs). In some respects Darlington may be better off, but if they still have to pay the "rent" costs then they could be worse off. I have no idea of the payment terms of the licence or what has been agreed with DRFC during this crisis. DRFC will still have their expenses to meet.

People tend to think that with no games going ahead and staff laid off there is no costs to a football club

Before anyone asks, I have no idea about Spennymoor's financial situation
That is actually an interesting point. I believe we are ordinarily paying rent per match day?

I wonder if us not having any matches for potentially 6+ months might sharpen a few minds at the Rugby club in regard to renegotiating a better deal for the football club in the long term.

Divas knows about this because he put something on this board a little while back. I think we have to pay for a whole seasons worth of league games, then the other ones as and when.

If this is the case it seems a little unfair, us paying out for games we will never play.

Posted: **Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:43 pm**

Rent payments are usually monthly rather than per game but I’ve no idea if we’ve suspended payments since we’ve been unable to play. I expect the contract doesn’t have anything written into it regarding pandemics so it could probably be argued either way.

I know DRFC have loan commitments which the rent supports but obviously no idea whether they’ve taken a payment holiday on those.

Posted: **Sat Apr 18, 2020 6:50 am**

Just put mine in for the seasons away games I missed, meant to do it earlier but forgot (old age is only excuse I have), logging back on to this forum and reading headings reminded me.
Target is going to be hard to achieve in this difficult time but every penny will help keep the club alive that is for sure. May need another e-mail, text campaign to drive it further?, especially if they are all like me and forgetful

Posted: **Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:06 am**

Going back to the rent issue, do we qualify for a rent 'holiday'? Wonder what the state of our landlord's finances are especially as they will be missing out on the May rugby festival now.

Posted: **Sat Apr 18, 2020 8:56 am**

jjljks wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:06 am
Going back to the rent issue, do we qualify for a rent 'holiday'? Wonder what the state of our landlord's finances are especially as they will be missing out on the May rugby festival now.

I'd be very much surprised if we get a rent holiday as DRFC will be really struggling financially as will DMP as I think neither club will be getting any help from the rugby union authorities.

Posted: **Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:18 pm**

I see the target has been halved. Bit disappointing when others have managed 20k easily (eg Altrincham) and they aren't fan owned.

Posted: **Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:53 pm**

dfcdfcdfc wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:18 pm
I see the target has been halved. Bit disappointing when others have managed 20k easily (eg Altrincham) and they aren't fan owned.

Maybe Alty fans aren’t also paying into a boost the budget scheme like a lot of us are.

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