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Second Time Around

Post by Old Git » Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:56 am

As often Darlington fans seem to be keen to speculate on the return of former players I thought that I would have a go at picking a team of players who have returned in the past.

Goalkeeper Sam Russell

Defenders. Kevan Smith Alan White Ryan Valentine

Midfield. Neil Wainwright Phil Brumwell Steve Gaughan. Mark Convery. Mitch Cook

Strikers. Lance Robson. Alun Armstrong

Subs. David Dowson David Ferguson. Liam Hatch Tommy Wright

Manager. Dave Hodgson

Can you think of any other players to strengthen the team?

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Re: Second Time Around

Post by lo36789 » Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:01 am

Adam Reed, Matty Appleby, Darren Roberts and Glen Naylor I would have ahead of a couple mentioned.

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Re: Second Time Around

Post by Geordie Quaker » Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:05 am

I think we'd need to specify which 'version' of said players we would take!

For example, Adam Reed looked a world beater before diving off to Blackburn. When he returned to looked like he had spent the time between in ballet school.

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Re: Second Time Around

Post by Footifanreturns » Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:17 am

Barry Conlon, Jimmy Lawton

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Post by real_darlo_85 » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:29 pm

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Re: Second Time Around

Post by Maurice_Peddelty » Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:43 pm

This has reminded me of how few footballers generally have a successful return, except perhaps in the cases where brief loan spells have turned into a permanent arrangement.

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Re: Second Time Around

Post by banktopp » Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:30 pm

Josh Heaton, anybody ?

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Re: Second Time Around

Post by lo36789 » Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:34 pm

Geordie Quaker wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:05 am
I think we'd need to specify which 'version' of said players we would take!

For example, Adam Reed looked a world beater before diving off to Blackburn. When he returned to looked like he had spent the time between in ballet school.
Agreed...

- the original version
- what they became in between
- what they came back as

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Re: Second Time Around

Post by Old Git » Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:26 pm

Maurice_Peddelty wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:43 pm
This has reminded me of how few footballers generally have a successful return, except perhaps in the cases where brief loan spells have turned into a permanent arrangement.
Yes I was thinking along similar lines. Sometimes if the first spell has been a successful one it can be a mistake to return and not live up to expectations.

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Re: Second Time Around

Post by tdk1 » Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:41 pm

Gary brown surely warrants a place?

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Re: Second Time Around

Post by Vodka_Vic » Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:50 pm

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Post by Old Git » Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:23 pm

Big fan of Gary Brown but as far as I know he never played in the first team during his initial spell with the club. Have only included players who had separate spells and played in the first team in each of those. Have not included loanees either.

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Post by Darlogramps » Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:46 pm

Old Git wrote:Big fan of Gary Brown but as far as I know he never played in the first team during his initial spell with the club. Have only included players who had separate spells and played in the first team in each of those. Have not included loanees either.
Brown joined us in 2012, left for Shildon in 2015 and then came straight back after a couple of months. Was a regular in both spells.
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Re: Second Time Around

Post by Old Git » Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:01 pm

Yes of course had forgotten his brief spell at Shildon.

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Post by real_darlo_85 » Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:24 pm

Craig James and Shaun Raey.
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Re: Second Time Around

Post by Quakers83 » Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:38 pm

Adam Rundle and Sean Gregan (after his one appearance against Glasshoughton Welfare in pre-season back in 2012).

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Post by Spyman » Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:50 pm

In this subject, who do we feel has actually been better second time round?

People always clammer for the return of old favourites but they rarely perform as well second time around.

I'd say Sam Russell was better second time around, and Gary Brown didn't let himself down either. Alan White also, considering age/level between his two spells. Dowson another but at a significantly lower level and didn't do much in his first spell so not quite the same.

Other than that, I can't really think of any from my time that have been as good/better on their return.

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Post by theoriginalfatcat » Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:12 pm

Dowson’s winning goal against Spennymoor in the play off semi final - what a fantastic memory :D
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Re: Second Time Around

Post by lo36789 » Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:14 pm

Spyman wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:50 pm
In this subject, who do we feel has actually been better second time round?

People always clammer for the return of old favourites but they rarely perform as well second time around.

I'd say Sam Russell was better second time around, and Gary Brown didn't let himself down either. Alan White also, considering age/level between his two spells. Dowson another but at a significantly lower level and didn't do much in his first spell so not quite the same.

Other than that, I can't really think of any from my time that have been as good/better on their return.

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Ferguson potentially though didn't have much chance first time round.

Also surely Craig Liddle deserves a mention as well!

Jamie Chandler would be the other one.

Maybe players who were on loan and then signed permanently don't count - that was Dowson right? He was on loan first time round?

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Re: Second Time Around

Post by HarrytheQuaker » Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:09 am

Dowson was on loan that must of passed me by!!!

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Re: Second Time Around

Post by lo36789 » Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:00 pm

HarrytheQuaker wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:09 am
Dowson was on loan that must of passed me by!!!

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Wasn't he?

I thought him and Chandler were on loan from Sunderland in the season we got relegated. I think there was a third loanee as well but can't remember their name.

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Re: Second Time Around

Post by AndyPark » Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:02 pm

lo36789 wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:00 pm
HarrytheQuaker wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:09 am
Dowson was on loan that must of passed me by!!!

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Wasn't he?

I thought him and Chandler were on loan from Sunderland in the season we got relegated. I think there was a third loanee as well but can't remember their name.
Jordan Cook wasn’t it?

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Re: Second Time Around

Post by lo36789 » Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:10 pm

Yep that was it! Did he get injured so went back early?

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Post by quaker4life » Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:30 pm

Off the top of my head there's a few I can remember apologies if they've already been mentioned;

Phil Brumwell - spent a season at Hull before coming back to us in 2001/02 if I recall rightly.

Matt Clarke - returned briefly on loan from Bradford in 2006.

Guy Ndumbu-Nsungu - also came back to us also after a spell at Bradford in 2007/08.

Barry Conlon - Returned from Barnsley in 2006 and scored a hattrick on the opening day of the 06/07 season against Macclesfield but then seemed to do very little after that, I think he went to Mansfield after Dave Penney came in.

Craig Russell - Came back to us during the 2003/04 season originally had him on loan from Man City in 1999/00.

Danny Mellanby - Came back briefly at the beginning of the 2012/13 season retired from professional game in 2004 after a back injury.

Richie Foran - Had two spells on loan with us one of those players I wish we could have signed permanently.

Rory Prendergast - Made a brief appearance in a pre-season friendly at Shildon in 2013!
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Post by Vodka_Vic » Thu Jun 04, 2020 3:44 pm

I don't know why but I have absolutely no recollection of Barry Conlon's second spell with us.

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Re: Second Time Around

Post by HarrytheQuaker » Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:33 pm

Vodka_Vic wrote:I don't know why but I have absolutely no recollection of Barry Conlon's second spell with us.
Me either

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Re: Second Time Around

Post by Spyman » Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:57 pm

lo36789 wrote:
HarrytheQuaker wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:09 am
Dowson was on loan that must of passed me by!!!

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Wasn't he?

I thought him and Chandler were on loan from Sunderland in the season we got relegated. I think there was a third loanee as well but can't remember their name.
This is correct. Both were on loan at the start of the Todd/Staunton season. Cook joined a bit later I think.

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Re: Second Time Around

Post by Feet4ever » Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:15 pm

Gary Himsworth and Dave Hawker made relatively successful returns; Lee Ellison briefly returned.

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Post by HarrytheQuaker » Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:17 pm

Spyman wrote:
lo36789 wrote:
HarrytheQuaker wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:09 am
Dowson was on loan that must of passed me by!!!

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Wasn't he?

I thought him and Chandler were on loan from Sunderland in the season we got relegated. I think there was a third loanee as well but can't remember their name.
This is correct. Both were on loan at the start of the Todd/Staunton season. Cook joined a bit later I think.

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We were called Darlington 1883 when he signed so doesn't count as 2nd time aroundImage

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