Increasingly unlikely playoffs

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Re: Increasingly unlikely playoffs

Post by Vodka_Vic » Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:27 pm

HarrytheQuaker wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:00 pm
Old Git wrote:South Shields made the mistake of using local solicitors Hadaway and Shite. It clearly didn’t go down well with the bigwigs from the FA.
It wouldn't matter who they used they would never of won , and to suggest its because of them solicitors they lost is utter tosh

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I disagree Harry. I've just done a bit of research on the Internet about 'Hadaway and Shite' and they look to have a good reputation.

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Re: Increasingly unlikely playoffs

Post by theoriginalfatcat » Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:43 pm

Vodka_Vic wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:27 pm
HarrytheQuaker wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:00 pm
Old Git wrote:South Shields made the mistake of using local solicitors Hadaway and Shite. It clearly didn’t go down well with the bigwigs from the FA.
It wouldn't matter who they used they would never of won , and to suggest its because of them solicitors they lost is utter tosh

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I disagree Harry. I've just done a bit of research on the Internet about 'Hadaway and Shite' and they look to have a good reputation.
No , you are wrong Vic - they are worse than this lot.

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Re: Increasingly unlikely playoffs

Post by Quaker85 » Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:19 am

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Old Git wrote:South Shields made the mistake of using local solicitors Hadaway and Shite. It clearly didn’t go down well with the bigwigs from the FA.
It wouldn't matter who they used they would never of won , and to suggest its because of them solicitors they lost is utter tosh

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Re: Increasingly unlikely playoffs

Post by loan_star » Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:41 am

The FA is a private club and make up their own rules. Unless this conflicts with the law of the land then there is nothing a solicitor can do to overturn any decision made by the FA.
Its like when a player is on an FA charge, they word any charge in a way that means they can get you on something. Anybody who has attended an FA hearing will know exactly what I mean.

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Re: Increasingly unlikely playoffs

Post by lo36789 » Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:53 am

loan_star wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:41 am
The FA is a private club and make up their own rules. Unless this conflicts with the law of the land then there is nothing a solicitor can do to overturn any decision made by the FA.
Yep it's a club all members affiliate to and in doing so acknowledge the rules and regs they document.

In reality the FA wouldn't haven't made the decision about steps 3 and below unless their rules permitted them to do so. It was a pointless exercise by South Shields.

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Re: Increasingly unlikely playoffs

Post by jjljks » Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:33 am

According to York Press, now looking more likely that NLN & NLS playoffs will go ahead
https://www.yorkpress.co.uk/sport/18536 ... -revealed/
Still some uncertainty over TV screening with BT Sport & also costs associated with testing programme on players for Covid19 in weeks prior to games which will add to costs. Some clubs still worried about finances & may not take part, in which case York want top 2 clubs to go up.

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Re: Increasingly unlikely playoffs

Post by spen666 » Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:11 am

jjljks wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:33 am
According to York Press, now looking more likely that NLN & NLS playoffs will go ahead
https://www.yorkpress.co.uk/sport/18536 ... -revealed/
Still some uncertainty over TV screening with BT Sport & also costs associated with testing programme on players for Covid19 in weeks prior to games which will add to costs. Some clubs still worried about finances & may not take part, in which case York want top 2 clubs to go up.
York are only interested in whatever solution gives them the best option of going up - understandable really. I am sure all clubs are like that

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Re: Increasingly unlikely playoffs

Post by lo36789 » Wed Jun 24, 2020 12:18 pm

York can want whatever they want. The decision was laid out if they don't get enough teams prepared to compete then only 1 goes up.

I think its been confirmed York, Boston, Altrincham and Gateshead are defos going to compete from NLN anyway...

Weymouth are fundraising for it but I cant honestly say I know much more about NLS to know whether they will get 4 teams together.

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Re: Increasingly unlikely playoffs

Post by LoidLucan » Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:32 pm

Brackley are also taking part. The finances are a "challenge" but no fundraising required. Allan Leighton has a big sofa :D. They are also building a new stand and new clubhouse which has required fundraising. I really hope they go up... with apologies to our southern mob!

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Re: Increasingly unlikely playoffs

Post by Quaker85 » Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:35 pm

Not much discussion about the NLS clubs intentions. If they don’t produce four interested in playing, the whole deal is of including the north division!


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Re: Increasingly unlikely playoffs

Post by jjljks » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:46 am

No more uncertainty as teams go back into training & league confirm no relegation (good news for Blyth & Bradford PA). Playoff teams sorted by PPG
2. York City 34 9 5 3 10 4 3 19 9 6 52 28 24 66 81.529
3. Boston United 32 10 3 2 7 4 6 17 7 8 46 32 14 58 76.125
4. Brackley Town 34 8 8 1 8 4 5 16 12 6 6 25 36 60 74.118
5. Altrincham 33 11 4 1 5 5 7 16 9 8 62 40 22 57 72.545
6. Chester 32 10 3 3 5 6 5 15 9 8 58 38 20 54 70.875
7. Gateshead 31 10 3 4 4 7 3 14 10 7 47 31 16 52 70.452

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Re: Increasingly unlikely playoffs

Post by Quaker85 » Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:18 am

Still plenty of uncertainty according to the Price of Football podcast yesterday. They reckon the playoffs will be null and void if the NL cannot give the EFL certainties over the start of the 20/21 season. Basically said the EFL would refuse to accept the play off winner into their membership.


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Re: Increasingly unlikely playoffs

Post by EDJOHNS » Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:59 am

Quaker85 wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:18 am
Still plenty of uncertainty according to the Price of Football podcast yesterday. They reckon the playoffs will be null and void if the NL cannot give the EFL certainties over the start of the 20/21 season. Basically said the EFL would refuse to accept the play off winner into their membership.


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That is more to do with the fact the FL have said they will not relegate any member if they have not had it confirmed that they have a league to play in next season, thus there would be no league spot to play for.
I don't see why that should stop NLN and S from having a promotion spot to the NL.

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Re: Increasingly unlikely playoffs

Post by Maurice_Peddelty » Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:25 am

EDJOHNS wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:59 am
Quaker85 wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:18 am
Still plenty of uncertainty according to the Price of Football podcast yesterday. They reckon the playoffs will be null and void if the NL cannot give the EFL certainties over the start of the 20/21 season. Basically said the EFL would refuse to accept the play off winner into their membership.


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That is more to do with the fact the FL have said they will not relegate any member if they have not had it confirmed that they have a league to play in next season, thus there would be no league spot to play for.
I don't see why that should stop NLN and S from having a promotion spot to the NL.
I would have thought any concerns of the NL restarting would be equally shared by EFL2.

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Re: Increasingly unlikely playoffs

Post by Quaker85 » Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:51 am

EDJOHNS wrote:
Quaker85 wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:18 am
Still plenty of uncertainty according to the Price of Football podcast yesterday. They reckon the playoffs will be null and void if the NL cannot give the EFL certainties over the start of the 20/21 season. Basically said the EFL would refuse to accept the play off winner into their membership.


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That is more to do with the fact the FL have said they will not relegate any member if they have not had it confirmed that they have a league to play in next season, thus there would be no league spot to play for.
I don't see why that should stop NLN and S from having a promotion spot to the NL.
It doesn’t. I was just widening the scope of the discussion seen as none of it is relevant to DFC anyway.


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Re: Increasingly unlikely playoffs

Post by HarrytheQuaker » Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:24 pm

Chester have voted to play

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Re: Increasingly unlikely playoffs

Post by jjljks » Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:54 pm

So does that mean the playoffs start with
Altrincham v Chester
Brackley v Gateshead?

Once they all find £50k each it will cost to stage the game, first.

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Re: Increasingly unlikely playoffs

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Re: Increasingly unlikely playoffs

Post by JE93 » Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:34 pm

What are peoples predictions for the playoffs? I'm going to go for:

Gateshead to beat Brackley
Altrincham to best Chester
York to beat Altrincham (toughest to call, I think Alty are a really good side and whoever wins this wins the lot)
Gateshead to beat Boston
York to beat Gateshead

York promoted. Would be a shame to lose them as a local game and a good crowd especially as in other circumstances we may have gotten South Shields from the league below to make up the local game and good crowd numbers.

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Re: Increasingly unlikely playoffs

Post by Old Git » Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:46 pm

JE93 wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:34 pm
What are peoples predictions for the playoffs? I'm going to go for:

Gateshead to beat Brackley
Altrincham to best Chester
York to beat Altrincham (toughest to call, I think Alty are a really good side and whoever wins this wins the lot)
Gateshead to beat Boston
York to beat Gateshead

York promoted. Would be a shame to lose them as a local game and a good crowd especially as in other circumstances we may have gotten South Shields from the league below to make up the local game and good crowd numbers.
From memory I think Alty have beaten York away twice already this season so I bet York will be very wary of completing an unwanted treble.

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Re: Increasingly unlikely playoffs

Post by theoriginalfatcat » Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:48 pm

York are a good side but they are nothing special, I think they could come unstuck here. We saw the last home game at B.C. - that night Hereford did the classic hit and run!
Mr Singh said this " I'm not expecting to get back any of the money I've already put in, I'm prepared to write it off for the future of the club. I'm not hanging in to make any kind of financial gain in the short or long term - if someone was prepared to come in and take the club off my hands, I'd be more than willing to discuss it"

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Re: Increasingly unlikely playoffs

Post by H1987 » Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:49 pm

Calling it now - the games will be a farce.

Unfit players in error-strewn games... probably isn't going to provide representative results. The team promoted will be the one that boredom ate the least during the quarantine.

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Re: Increasingly unlikely playoffs

Post by HarrytheQuaker » Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:59 pm

H1987 wrote:Calling it now - the games will be a farce.

Unfit players in error-strewn games... probably isn't going to provide representative results. The team promoted will be the one that boredom ate the least during the quarantine.
They won't be unfit just a bit match rusty that's all , I'm sure they will be good games ,good on them for trying to finish and win promotion, Not jealous much

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Re: Increasingly unlikely playoffs

Post by theoriginalfatcat » Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:17 pm

They might be fit but they can't be match ready surely?

It will be like the kickoff of a new season with the possibility of odd happenings and strange scores, and I'm not sure what relevance the league table will have.
Mr Singh said this " I'm not expecting to get back any of the money I've already put in, I'm prepared to write it off for the future of the club. I'm not hanging in to make any kind of financial gain in the short or long term - if someone was prepared to come in and take the club off my hands, I'd be more than willing to discuss it"

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Re: Increasingly unlikely playoffs

Post by Darlo_Pete » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:10 pm

I think it will be very unpredictable as to who goes up. The lockdown will definitely even things up & I think any team in the play-offs could go up.

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Re: Increasingly unlikely playoffs

Post by jjljks » Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:38 am

Darlo_Pete wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:10 pm
I think it will be very unpredictable as to who goes up. The lockdown will definitely even things up & I think any team in the play-offs could go up.
Yes, very hard to pick a winner in fact may even favour those teams involved in the first knockout matches. Apparently there will be a TV Pay as You Go arrangement, but I can't see too many uninvolved people wanting to view the matches, so clubs could hardly be breaking even once the costs of Covid19 testing and getting the games on are totted up. So will be much easier to pick 5 financial losers which may even carry over into next season.

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Re: Increasingly unlikely playoffs

Post by Quaker85 » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:52 pm

Maybe this thread needs renaming to "Increasingly Likely Play-offs"

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Re: Increasingly unlikely playoffs

Post by jjljks » Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:21 pm

Boston 0 Alty 1 FT

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