Increasingly unlikely playoffs
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:32 am
According to the meeting yesterday, it was stated that the playoffs were unlikely to happen because of time frame to fit them in before the new season.
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York City will be gutted with this, McGill may be having second thoughts about his level of funding going forward and this could be fuelling the rumours about a number of players leaving.AndyPark wrote:Kings Lynn are going up via PPG and no play-offs.
Only Chorley to come down from the NL.
Ron, agree with this. Rumours were always that he would get his money back from the sale of Bootham Crescent and then bugger off.QUAKERMAN2 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:40 amYork City will be gutted with this, McGill may be having second thoughts about his level of funding going forward and this could be fuelling the rumours about a number of players leaving.AndyPark wrote:Kings Lynn are going up via PPG and no play-offs.
Only Chorley to come down from the NL.
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What’s to say his packaging company is not struggling with this lockdown Adam, like a few benefactors he may have to rethink how he can keep pumping small fortunes into a non league club and surely to god he has to call a halt sooner, rather than later.We may well see some of these clubs massively slashing their budgets next season.Vodka_Vic wrote:Ron, agree with this. Rumours were always that he would get his money back from the sale of Bootham Crescent and then bugger off.QUAKERMAN2 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:40 amYork City will be gutted with this, McGill may be having second thoughts about his level of funding going forward and this could be fuelling the rumours about a number of players leaving.AndyPark wrote:Kings Lynn are going up via PPG and no play-offs.
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Been told by who???? Thought they were voting on ittheoriginalfatcat wrote:I’ve been told the play offs in theory could be back on. It seems the league implied that the government had brought in this “elite” rule but they never stipulated about which leagues it applied to.
So PPG - the top 6 could compete if they wish. But they don’t have to, although if anyone drops out they won’t be replaced by another team, it would mean less teams taking part.
Spennymoor would miss out as they drop to 8th.
Perhaps I should have started the above post with the word “apparently“ but it makes no difference as If you read my post with care it says “IN THEORY COULD BE BACK ON “ It really is that simply. I’m just describing one of the numerous possibilities that may or may not happen.HarrytheQuaker wrote: ↑Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:55 pmBeen told by who???? Thought they were voting on ittheoriginalfatcat wrote:I’ve been told the play offs in theory could be back on. It seems the league implied that the government had brought in this “elite” rule but they never stipulated about which leagues it applied to.
So PPG - the top 6 could compete if they wish. But they don’t have to, although if anyone drops out they won’t be replaced by another team, it would mean less teams taking part.
Spennymoor would miss out as they drop to 8th.
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https://www.thenonleaguefootballpaper.c ... the-table/theoriginalfatcat wrote: ↑Sun Jun 14, 2020 4:29 pmI’ve been told the play offs in theory could be back on. It seems the league implied that the government had brought in this “elite” rule but they never stipulated about which leagues it applied to.
So PPG - the top 6 could compete if they wish. But they don’t have to, although if anyone drops out they won’t be replaced by another team, it would mean less teams taking part.
Spennymoor would miss out as they drop to 8th.
His firm does alot of food packaging, still a industry doing well. Hope they get promoted, sure deserve itQUAKERMAN2 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 5:36 pmWhat’s to say his packaging company is not struggling with this lockdown Adam, like a few benefactors he may have to rethink how he can keep pumping small fortunes into a non league club and surely to god he has to call a halt sooner, rather than later.We may well see some of these clubs massively slashing their budgets next season.Vodka_Vic wrote:Ron, agree with this. Rumours were always that he would get his money back from the sale of Bootham Crescent and then bugger off.QUAKERMAN2 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:40 amYork City will be gutted with this, McGill may be having second thoughts about his level of funding going forward and this could be fuelling the rumours about a number of players leaving.AndyPark wrote:Kings Lynn are going up via PPG and no play-offs.
Only Chorley to come down from the NL.
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Boston have tweeted they will be voting for the playoffs. They link to their statement https://www.bostonunited.co.uk/news/clu ... 43388.htmlMaurice_Peddelty wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:00 amJust looking at the current resolution sent to NL clubs as reported in a Non-League Paper article. If passed (which it probably will, otherwise the default is anulment ie no promotion to EFL), there will be play-offs in NLN and NLS "if legally possible". There would be no compulsion for qualifying clubs to take part but there would need to be a minimum of 4 participants and the competing clubs would need to cover all testing and cleaning costs, which York City estimate would run to £50k to £150k for each club. That's some lottery ticket to lay out for! I wonder if there are 4 serious contenders out of the 7 qualifiers. I'm sure York and Alty would definitely be up for it. Therefore, you would need at least 2 from Brackley, Boston, Gateshead and Chester to step forward (Chester have already reported they are in two minds). How committed would the players be, bearing in mind some would have already decided their futures lie elsewhere next season? Is it worth the gamble in view of the impending financial uncertainties. All very interesting. If the NLN play-offs don't proceed then presumably only King's Lynn will go up.
if you take players off furlough for play offs, can they be re-furloughed after play offs? If not, it becomes an expensive gambleH1987 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:33 amSeems a little unclear where the others stand. Altrincham seem to have said they favour playing them... but the money is a significant caveat. I can’t see any real comment from Chester, Gateshead or Brackley yet?
Spending this money strikes me as ridiculous... also, surely the players are all on furlough? I reckon it’ll be a farce. I don’t think I’d want us gambling such a large amount of money on it.
This is what I don't understand about furlough. DJ confirmed the other night that players only get paid from when their new contracts start. Presumably players whose contracts have expired at the end of the season (is this normally end of April/May?) are not therefore being paid at the moment surely? Part-time football is not a job where you get paid 52 weeks of the year.spen666 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:54 amif you take players off furlough for play offs, can they be re-furloughed after play offs? If not, it becomes an expensive gambleH1987 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:33 amSeems a little unclear where the others stand. Altrincham seem to have said they favour playing them... but the money is a significant caveat. I can’t see any real comment from Chester, Gateshead or Brackley yet?
Spending this money strikes me as ridiculous... also, surely the players are all on furlough? I reckon it’ll be a farce. I don’t think I’d want us gambling such a large amount of money on it.
bga wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:30 amThis is what I don't understand about furlough. DJ confirmed the other night that players only get paid from when their new contracts start. Presumably players whose contracts have expired at the end of the season (is this normally end of April/May?) are not therefore being paid at the moment surely? Part-time football is not a job where you get paid 52 weeks of the year.spen666 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:54 amif you take players off furlough for play offs, can they be re-furloughed after play offs? If not, it becomes an expensive gambleH1987 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:33 amSeems a little unclear where the others stand. Altrincham seem to have said they favour playing them... but the money is a significant caveat. I can’t see any real comment from Chester, Gateshead or Brackley yet?
Spending this money strikes me as ridiculous... also, surely the players are all on furlough? I reckon it’ll be a farce. I don’t think I’d want us gambling such a large amount of money on it.
Speak for yourself . Kings Lynn and Brackley are my closest games as a Herts based exile. After that it's the likes of Kettering, Leamington and Gloucester.jjljks wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:41 amWould be a bonus if Boston Utd went up through the play-offs as it is like King's Lynn, a helluva way to go for an away game. Equally, Brackley would not be a great loss, although quite a few Darlo exiles in the South do make it to that fixture.
Thought Chester were against play-offs due to the costs associated with playing behind closed doors. Gateshead probably would not want to risk their money, although with their crowds are probably the best accustomed for playing behind closed doors!
How many is a lot. I suspect the vast majority are on 40 weeks contracts (which is why at this level you do see many players announced in May / June time).
Wont speculate on information that comes out of his own clubs official media channels, as 'he doesnt have the information'.spen666 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:39 ambga wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:30 amThis is what I don't understand about furlough. DJ confirmed the other night that players only get paid from when their new contracts start. Presumably players whose contracts have expired at the end of the season (is this normally end of April/May?) are not therefore being paid at the moment surely? Part-time football is not a job where you get paid 52 weeks of the year.spen666 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:54 amif you take players off furlough for play offs, can they be re-furloughed after play offs? If not, it becomes an expensive gambleH1987 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:33 amSeems a little unclear where the others stand. Altrincham seem to have said they favour playing them... but the money is a significant caveat. I can’t see any real comment from Chester, Gateshead or Brackley yet?
Spending this money strikes me as ridiculous... also, surely the players are all on furlough? I reckon it’ll be a farce. I don’t think I’d want us gambling such a large amount of money on it.
At this level I think a lot of players are on 52 week contracts ( even part time players) but this varies by club .
With regard to new players, you can't sign someone ( ie offer them a job they didn't have at start of lockdown) and then furlough them. Hence new player contracts are saying salary will only be paid from "when season starts" (presumably meaning when training starts).
With regard to existing players, especially those whose contracts were expiring, I have no idea what situation is. If contract expired at end of April/ May, then if it wasn't renewed, the player is no longer contracted.
I can imagine there has been or will be lots of wrangling over eligibility for the play offs
From a selfish point of view and being a bit of a ground hopper we don't want to lose Boston United yet as they are moving into a brand new stadium which I believe is called the quadrant.jjljks wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:41 amWould be a bonus if Boston Utd went up through the play-offs as it is like King's Lynn, a helluva way to go for an away game. Equally, Brackley would not be a great loss, although quite a few Darlo exiles in the South do make it to that fixture.
Thought Chester were against play-offs due to the costs associated with playing behind closed doors. Gateshead probably would not want to risk their money, although with their crowds are probably the best accustomed for playing behind closed doors!