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FA Cup

Post by Darlogramps » Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:11 pm

Good news that the FA are running the FA Cup as normal next year.

Had been fears they'd try and reduce the qualifying rounds to make up for the late start.

889 teams have applied to take part, with only 736 places, meaning draws will take place to establish which Step 6 sides enter (previously would've been league position, but obviously that was expunged for the last campaign).

And we'll enter at the 2nd qualifying round as normal. Fingers crossed for another good cup run this season too.
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Re: FA Cup

Post by D_F_C » Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:24 pm

Darlogramps wrote:Good news that the FA are running the FA Cup as normal next year.

Had been fears they'd try and reduce the qualifying rounds to make up for the late start.

889 teams have applied to take part, with only 736 places, meaning draws will take place to establish which Step 6 sides enter (previously would've been league position, but obviously that was expunged for the last campaign).

And we'll enter at the 2nd qualifying round as normal. Fingers crossed for another good cup run this season too.
Great news if true and have no reason to doubt you. Had worried that the recently increased rate was to be reduced again. It’s a massive bonus for the survival of most lower league clubs


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Re: FA Cup

Post by quakerste » Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:36 pm

Fa Cup proposed dates
Extra preliminary round 1st September
Preliminary round 12th September
First qualifying round 22nd September
Replays possibly scrapped

Fa Trophy
1st qualifying round 26th September
2nd qualifying round17th October

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Re: FA Cup

Post by Quaker85 » Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:02 am

Darlogramps wrote:Good news that the FA are running the FA Cup as normal next year.

Had been fears they'd try and reduce the qualifying rounds to make up for the late start.

889 teams have applied to take part, with only 736 places, meaning draws will take place to establish which Step 6 sides enter (previously would've been league position, but obviously that was expunged for the last campaign).

And we'll enter at the 2nd qualifying round as normal. Fingers crossed for another good cup run this season too.
I know you’re a stickler for accuracy Gramps so just one small correction to your otherwise accurate and informative post. The step 6 qualification process is determined on a points per game basis not league position. That is all.


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Re: FA Cup

Post by lo36789 » Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:29 am

Quaker85 wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:02 am
The step 6 qualification process is determined on a points per game basis not league position. That is all.
Interesting - how do they handle a team promoted from step 7 to step 6 the previous season as surely their PPG would be very favourable?

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Post by spen666 » Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:46 am

lo36789 wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:29 am
Quaker85 wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:02 am
The step 6 qualification process is determined on a points per game basis not league position. That is all.
Interesting - how do they handle a team promoted from step 7 to step 6 the previous season as surely their PPG would be very favourable?
Their PPG at step 6 would be zero as they were not at step 6 in qualification season.

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Re: FA Cup

Post by lo36789 » Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:59 am

Ah so basically they are guaranteed to be part of prelims then.

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Post by spen666 » Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:06 am

lo36789 wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:59 am
Ah so basically they are guaranteed to be part of prelims then.
No, a team promoted from step 7 are guaranteed not to be in FA Cup as every other step 6 side would be ahead of them on PPG

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Re: FA Cup

Post by lo36789 » Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:52 pm

spen666 wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:06 am
lo36789 wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:59 am
Ah so basically they are guaranteed to be part of prelims then.
No, a team promoted from step 7 are guaranteed not to be in FA Cup as every other step 6 side would be ahead of them on PPG
Oh that is strange then - I am almost certain that Prestwich Heys participated in their first season in Step 6.

Sure they played away at Congleton in the extra prelim. Must have been the season after.

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Post by spen666 » Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:21 pm

lo36789 wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:52 pm
spen666 wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:06 am
lo36789 wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:59 am
Ah so basically they are guaranteed to be part of prelims then.
No, a team promoted from step 7 are guaranteed not to be in FA Cup as every other step 6 side would be ahead of them on PPG
Oh that is strange then - I am almost certain that Prestwich Heys participated in their first season in Step 6.

Sure they played away at Congleton in the extra prelim. Must have been the season after.
Going by the Football Club Historic Database Website it appears Prestwich were promoted to Step 6 at end of 2015-2016 season, but did not compete in FA Cup until 2018-2019 season. http://www.fchd.info/PRESTWIH.HTM

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Re: FA Cup

Post by lo36789 » Sat Jul 25, 2020 5:29 pm

You are right just checked my records for 2016/2017

06/08/2016 - Congleton v New Mills (FA Cup)
01/10/2016 - Congleton v Prestwich Heys (NWC League Cup)

Confusion over opposition / competition.

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Re: FA Cup

Post by spen666 » Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:25 pm

lo36789 wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 5:29 pm
You are right just checked my records for 2016/2017

06/08/2016 - Congleton v New Mills (FA Cup)
01/10/2016 - Congleton v Prestwich Heys (NWC League Cup)

Confusion over opposition / competition.
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I can claim no credit, I simply used the FCHD website. It's a goldmine of history.

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Re: FA Cup

Post by JE93 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:21 pm

National league suggesting a 3rd October 2020 start for the national league. Suggesting there will be reduced capacity in grounds.

Step 2 clubs will start that weekend with the FA cup 2nd Qualifying round which is where we enter the competition. Before moving to league games in the following week.

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Re: FA Cup

Post by Mister e » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:04 pm

JE93 wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:21 pm
National league suggesting a 3rd October 2020 start for the national league. Suggesting there will be reduced capacity in grounds.

Step 2 clubs will start that weekend with the FA cup 2nd Qualifying round which is where we enter the competition. Before moving to league games in the following week.
Let's all hope a successful vaccine has been found by then.

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Re: FA Cup

Post by JE93 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:16 pm

Mister e wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:04 pm
JE93 wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:21 pm
National league suggesting a 3rd October 2020 start for the national league. Suggesting there will be reduced capacity in grounds.

Step 2 clubs will start that weekend with the FA cup 2nd Qualifying round which is where we enter the competition. Before moving to league games in the following week.
Let's all hope a successful vaccine has been found by then.
I was more in fear of coming into an FA cup game, first game of the season against a team from one of the leagues below who might have played 4 or 5 competitive fixtures by that point. Not an enticing prospect especially as we all know what the FA cup can be worth financially.

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Re: FA Cup

Post by Footifanreturns » Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:32 pm

Surely we will have some pre season friendlies before we play any competitive games, even if they are behind closed doors.
Not ideal but the same for all clubs at our level.

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Re: FA Cup

Post by spen666 » Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:30 am

Mister e wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:04 pm
JE93 wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:21 pm
National league suggesting a 3rd October 2020 start for the national league. Suggesting there will be reduced capacity in grounds.

Step 2 clubs will start that weekend with the FA cup 2nd Qualifying round which is where we enter the competition. Before moving to league games in the following week.
Let's all hope a successful vaccine has been found by then.
Being realistic, even if a successful vaccine were found today, they are not going to have manufactured enough vaccine & distributed it to everyone in the UK by then, especially when every other country in the world will also want to get their hands on the vaccine.

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Re: FA Cup

Post by Quaker85 » Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:41 am

A couple of seasons ago the season started with the FA cup for steps 5 and 6 and the move was very unpopular and FA said they wouldn’t do it again. Well this is now the case for us but these are of course unprecedented times.


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