Re: Support package announced
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:31 pm
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No, because I'm not privy to the workings of the system.onewayup wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:35 amdarlo2001uk, can you explain some other reason why,how, some national league sides benefit enormously , whilst others better supported teams are given a much smaller proportion of the
Grant ,which was said to replace lost gate revenues ,corruption within the corridors of power it says to me although the clubs are thankful for the MONIES they just haven't been fair in the distribution simple as that. Example: 700 fans x10 =7000 x4 28000 --- 2000 fans x10 =20,000x4 80,000 it's not rocket science. National league have taken 60%of the grant.
What does it say?al_quaker wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:54 amhttps://theathletic.co.uk/2156815/2020/ ... t-funding/
Interesting article from the athletic (for those who subscribe at least) about this. Main takeaway is the lack of transparancy and responses from the National League.
" It's a shitstorm"dfcdfcdfc wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:25 amWhat does it say?al_quaker wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:54 amhttps://theathletic.co.uk/2156815/2020/ ... t-funding/
Interesting article from the athletic (for those who subscribe at least) about this. Main takeaway is the lack of transparancy and responses from the National League.
Basically there's no transparancy and responses from the National League. Plenty of clubs (generally those with bigger attendances relative to their level) are unhappy. DCMS not invovled with determining the distribution. Dulwich Hamlet sound particularly unhappy - removing league and vanarama sponsorship boards.dfcdfcdfc wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:25 amWhat does it say?al_quaker wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:54 amhttps://theathletic.co.uk/2156815/2020/ ... t-funding/
Interesting article from the athletic (for those who subscribe at least) about this. Main takeaway is the lack of transparancy and responses from the National League.
I’m not shocked Fylde and Kidderminster are on that list whinging about money being distributed, especially when they spend above their means..lo36789 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:00 pmInterestingly we havn't put our names to this latest letter;
https://twitter.com/Ollie_Bayliss/statu ... 58209?s=19
But clubs with attendances lower than ours (Fylde, Kidderminster and Telford) have
A few clubs have tweeted that they weren’t consulted therefore didn’t have a chance to add their names to itlo36789 wrote:Interestingly we havn't put our names to this latest letter;
https://twitter.com/Ollie_Bayliss/statu ... 58209?s=19
But clubs with attendances lower than ours (Fylde, Kidderminster and Telford) have
Strange that all clubs stuck together in national leagues to get the funding, once the national league management got there hands on it all hell breaks loose ,league management want dismissing for greedy misappropriation of the funds, part of the funds came from the national lottery, all who pay into that should be aggrieved at the league managers who copiously took 60% for their own 22 clubs leaving 40% for the northern /southern sections 44 clubs.D_F_C wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:47 pmA few clubs have tweeted that they weren’t consulted therefore didn’t have a chance to add their names to itlo36789 wrote:Interestingly we havn't put our names to this latest letter;
https://twitter.com/Ollie_Bayliss/statu ... 58209?s=19
But clubs with attendances lower than ours (Fylde, Kidderminster and Telford) have
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Kinda feel this is what a statement from Steve Dale would look like on the subject.onewayup wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:06 pmStrange that all clubs stuck together in national leagues to get the funding, once the national league management got there hands on it all hell breaks loose ,league management want dismissing for greedy misappropriation of the funds, part of the funds came from the national lottery, all who pay into that should be aggrieved at the league managers who copiously took 60% for their own 22 clubs leaving 40% for the northern /southern sections 44 clubs.D_F_C wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:47 pmA few clubs have tweeted that they weren’t consulted therefore didn’t have a chance to add their names to itlo36789 wrote:Interestingly we havn't put our names to this latest letter;
https://twitter.com/Ollie_Bayliss/statu ... 58209?s=19
But clubs with attendances lower than ours (Fylde, Kidderminster and Telford) have
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SACK THE NATIONAL LEAGUE MANAGERS ASSOCIATION. PARITY FOR ALL PARTIES.
SHOWS HOW GREEDY THEY ARE.
So lo36789. Do you think it was a right and fair way of distributing the money ?lo36789 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:37 pmKinda feel this is what a statement from Steve Dale would look like on the subject.onewayup wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:06 pmStrange that all clubs stuck together in national leagues to get the funding, once the national league management got there hands on it all hell breaks loose ,league management want dismissing for greedy misappropriation of the funds, part of the funds came from the national lottery, all who pay into that should be aggrieved at the league managers who copiously took 60% for their own 22 clubs leaving 40% for the northern /southern sections 44 clubs.D_F_C wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:47 pmA few clubs have tweeted that they weren’t consulted therefore didn’t have a chance to add their names to itlo36789 wrote:Interestingly we havn't put our names to this latest letter;
https://twitter.com/Ollie_Bayliss/statu ... 58209?s=19
But clubs with attendances lower than ours (Fylde, Kidderminster and Telford) have
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SACK THE NATIONAL LEAGUE MANAGERS ASSOCIATION. PARITY FOR ALL PARTIES.
SHOWS HOW GREEDY THEY ARE.
NL were always going to get a proportionally bigger cut that NLN / NLS.
I think that clubs like York should be aggrieved by it. An arbitrary attendance of 1500 and drawing a line there for higher / lower amount whilst strictly speaking "being based on lost attendances". It does seem a £ per spectators may have been on the surface a better approach.My opinion wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:04 pmSo lo36789. Do you think it was a right and fair way of distributing the money ?
It was supposed to be all about replacing lost fans revenue.The fact that their is a lot of unfairness out there does not make it right..lo36789 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:26 pmI think that clubs like York should be aggrieved by it. An arbitrary attendance of 1500 and drawing a line there for higher / lower amount whilst strictly speaking "being based on lost attendances". It does seem a £ per spectators may have been on the surface a better approach.My opinion wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:04 pmSo lo36789. Do you think it was a right and fair way of distributing the money ?
It would actually appear on the face of it that step 5 and step 6 received the same amount from the National Lottery. It just happens there are twice as many clubs at step 6.
I always expected the top level to get more. Their entrance fees are greater, their grounds are bigger (more hospitality offering) fundamentally their matchday income is greater than the level below. In terms of absolute value they are losing more from not having spectators than we are.
So if the purpose is to soften the blow of not having spectators then yes they should get more.
We were the club next in line to get a higher amount and actually on the face of it the amount received would appear to see us through then it actually doesn't seem that bad a deal.
Yes, it's still not the same as fans revenues but look around the country there is a lot of unfairness out there with what is going on. I think we should consider ourselves very fortunate to be able to have a fighting chance of surviving this. Many other companies in other sectors havn't got that chance and they employ an awful lot more people.
Well I agree with them for their circumstance. What they have received won't come closer to making up for their lost fan revenue.My opinion wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:01 amEven Notts County say the way the money was distributed was wrong.
Your comment on step 6 getting the same amount as step 5 is incorrect.. Step 5 took 60% of the money, that is £6m. Step 6 only got 40% which was £4m.. their is a difference of £2m which I think is a hell of a lot of money and would have been a 50% increase for step 6 clubs.
We will have to agree to disagree on this. My view is that the money should have been a fair remuneration for all clubs for missing fans not just the top league.lo36789 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:05 amWell I agree with them for their circumstance. What they have received won't come closer to making up for their lost fan revenue.My opinion wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:01 amEven Notts County say the way the money was distributed was wrong.
For Notts County see York. The clubs above the arbitrary line are the ones who are most aggrieved.
They received the most money but relative to their lost revenues it was nowhere close. The fact we got what was about right suggests there was enough money allocated to Step 6. It was just distributed within the steps with too basic an approach.