Darlington V Hornchurch Trophy Quarter Final

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Re: Darlington V Hornchurch Trophy Quarter Final

Post by lo36789 » Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:45 pm

No there are no highlights only the goals...

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Re: Darlington V Hornchurch Trophy Quarter Final

Post by QUAKERMAN2 » Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:05 pm

Vodka_Vic wrote:
lo36789 wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:22 pm
No idea - should have been added on if that was the case. Hard to really comment blind.
Thanks. Thought he was incompetent. Just our luck to get him. Did you see the penalty turned down for handball?
Totally agree Adam, this clown was one of the worst referees we have had at BM, why he failed to add on 2 extra minutes at the end only he knows.God help the EFL when he starts refereeing their games.


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Re: Darlington V Hornchurch Trophy Quarter Final

Post by LoidLucan » Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:29 am

lo36789 wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:44 pm

Can't beat getting off on a technicality.
What it actually boils down to is that the ref made a complete pig's ear of it.

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Re: Darlington V Hornchurch Trophy Quarter Final

Post by lo36789 » Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:40 am

Clearly - well sort of sounds like it was nothing to do with the referee either as it seems to have been something his assistant thought he saw.

Hatfield still escaped a ban on a technicality. He was red carded for violent conduct rather than being yellowed for aggressive attitude.

The outcome would have been a dismissal on the day regardless but by virtue of the error Hatfield escapes a ban and gets his yellow cards wiped for the new season.

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Re: Darlington V Hornchurch Trophy Quarter Final

Post by LoidLucan » Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:50 pm

Straight red very quickly and very easily shown to be completely wrong decision = pig's ear officiating.

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Re: Darlington V Hornchurch Trophy Quarter Final

Post by lo36789 » Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:24 pm

LoidLucan wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:50 pm
Straight red very quickly and very easily shown to be completely wrong decision = pig's ear officiating.
Time isn't a healer. It's either believed to be red or it isn't. Advice is for violent conduct show early to prevent retaliation.

I have no idea really whether this was likely or not as there is no footage published.

How did you find out that it was very easily shown to be completely wrong, just out of interest. I've yet to find any publicly available information which confirms.
  • How many camera angles were submitted as evidence
  • How long did the panel spend reviewing the footage / replaying it
  • Was the outcome 3-0 incorrect or was it 2-1 incorrect
Unless of course by very easily you are referring to the actual appeals process in that all we have to do is tick a few boxes on the system and submit some video in as an attachment. It's just a strange place to talk about the usability of the FA appeals system - so apologies if that is what you meant. In which case I agree it is very easy to do.

There is no real evidence the process wasn't sound. The decision / judgement on behalf of the assistant has ultimately been judged to be incorrect - that is really it.

I mean Armstrong said he'd have to watch the footage to see whether it was right or wrong so guess that means from pitch level it was hard to tell.

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Re: Darlington V Hornchurch Trophy Quarter Final

Post by jjljks » Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:51 pm

Any chance we can put this thread to bed? It is so depressing, I just want to put it away together with the 2020/21 season.
At least we will still have a club and the basis of a decent squad for 2021/22 thanks to DJ & the board, AA and all the fans who stuck with the club despite of everything. Everyone, take a break, get vaccinated, shuffle the squad with some ins/outs and be ready for the next season. :thumbup:

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Re: Darlington V Hornchurch Trophy Quarter Final

Post by EDJOHNS » Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:10 pm

lo36789 wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:40 am
Clearly - well sort of sounds like it was nothing to do with the referee either as it seems to have been something his assistant thought he saw.

Hatfield still escaped a ban on a technicality. He was red carded for violent conduct rather than being yellowed for aggressive attitude.

The outcome would have been a dismissal on the day regardless but by virtue of the error Hatfield escapes a ban and gets his yellow cards wiped for the new season.
All yellows are wiped out at the end of each season so that last makes no sense.

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Re: Darlington V Hornchurch Trophy Quarter Final

Post by Emdubya » Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:12 pm

jjljks wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:51 pm
Any chance we can put this thread to bed? It is so depressing, I just want to put it away together with the 2020/21 season.
At least we will still have a club and the basis of a decent squad for 2021/22 thanks to DJ & the board, AA and all the fans who stuck with the club despite of everything. Everyone, take a break, get vaccinated, shuffle the squad with some ins/outs and be ready for the next season. :thumbup:
Threads tend to get depressing when lo joins in :|

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Re: Darlington V Hornchurch Trophy Quarter Final

Post by lo36789 » Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:11 pm

EDJOHNS wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:10 pm
lo36789 wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:40 am
Clearly - well sort of sounds like it was nothing to do with the referee either as it seems to have been something his assistant thought he saw.

Hatfield still escaped a ban on a technicality. He was red carded for violent conduct rather than being yellowed for aggressive attitude.

The outcome would have been a dismissal on the day regardless but by virtue of the error Hatfield escapes a ban and gets his yellow cards wiped for the new season.
All yellows are wiped out at the end of each season so that last makes no sense.
"His yellow cards are wiped" doesn't make sense because yellow cards are wiped.

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Re: Darlington V Hornchurch Trophy Quarter Final

Post by Old Git » Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:45 pm

It’s going to be a long pre season 😴

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Re: Darlington V Hornchurch Trophy Quarter Final

Post by EDJOHNS » Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:08 pm

lo36789 wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:11 pm
EDJOHNS wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:10 pm
lo36789 wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:40 am
Clearly - well sort of sounds like it was nothing to do with the referee either as it seems to have been something his assistant thought he saw.

Hatfield still escaped a ban on a technicality. He was red carded for violent conduct rather than being yellowed for aggressive attitude.

The outcome would have been a dismissal on the day regardless but by virtue of the error Hatfield escapes a ban and gets his yellow cards wiped for the new season.
All yellows are wiped out at the end of each season so that last makes no sense.
"His yellow cards are wiped" doesn't make sense because yellow cards are wiped.
No, the bit that made no sense was that all yellow cards are wiped at the end of the season. The fact he had a red rescinded made no difference to his yellows.

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Re: Darlington V Hornchurch Trophy Quarter Final

Post by theoriginalfatcat » Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:34 pm

Just watched the goals :( but I'll only do it once.

For their opener a number of our players look like they've eaten too much Walls Viennetta and can't get up to speed proper.
Mr Singh said this " I'm not expecting to get back any of the money I've already put in, I'm prepared to write it off for the future of the club. I'm not hanging in to make any kind of financial gain in the short or long term - if someone was prepared to come in and take the club off my hands, I'd be more than willing to discuss it"

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Re: Darlington V Hornchurch Trophy Quarter Final

Post by lo36789 » Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:11 pm

theoriginalfatcat wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:34 pm
Just watched the goals :( but I'll only do it once.

For their opener a number of our players look like they've eaten too much Walls Viennetta and can't get up to speed proper.
It's one of the weirdest goals I've seen at our level.

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Re: Darlington V Hornchurch Trophy Quarter Final

Post by Darlofan97 » Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:47 pm

Their first goal was embarrassing (just watched it back).

I don’t mind the original mistake, but there is little attempt by Sousa to regain possession, Hedley doesn’t block off the runner, Hunt doesn’t go with the runner and then the goalscorer starts off behind Liddle and ends up 5 yards in front.

You get what you deserve when you are as passive as that.

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Re: Darlington V Hornchurch Trophy Quarter Final

Post by singhpankaj62 » Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:13 am

I wouldn't describe Hornchurch as a 'tidy side'. I thought the defending by both teams was calamitous at times.

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Re: Darlington V Hornchurch Trophy Quarter Final

Post by Old Git » Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:26 pm

Hornchurch beat Notts Co on penalties today after a 3-3 draw in 90 minutes and will play Hereford in the final. Terrific achievement for a team from their level to make it to the final.

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