Current Squad Size
Current Squad Size
It is massive compared to the start of the season. I think we began with about 17 players, and by my reckoning it had grown to 25 by Saturday’s game against Spennymoor.
Goalkeepers.
Taylor, Robson.
Defenders.
Griffiths, Windass, Hedley, Rowe, Lawlor, Lees, Sukar, Burton, Mustoe, Whinfield.
Midfielders.
Hatfield, Platt, Moke, Liddle, Ngandu, Lindley, Harker, Rivers.
Strikers.
Hazel, Nelson, Salkeld, Curry, Simms.
Apologies if I have missed anyone, it’s hard to keep track!
This number includes loan players and of course some with be returning to their parent clubs at some point, but it just seems a ridiculously high number of players. It means that in addition to the 16 man squad on duty on Saturday, we must have had 9 players sitting in the stand getting paid for being spectators. I think out of those Moke and Curry were possibly unavailable due to injury, but even so it seems excessive.
Given our limited budget I can only assume that management are trying to move some players on, but are perhaps finding it difficult to find clubs willing to take them. I understand the need to bring in some fresh blood, but surely that has to be a limit to the number of players we can have at the club.
Goalkeepers.
Taylor, Robson.
Defenders.
Griffiths, Windass, Hedley, Rowe, Lawlor, Lees, Sukar, Burton, Mustoe, Whinfield.
Midfielders.
Hatfield, Platt, Moke, Liddle, Ngandu, Lindley, Harker, Rivers.
Strikers.
Hazel, Nelson, Salkeld, Curry, Simms.
Apologies if I have missed anyone, it’s hard to keep track!
This number includes loan players and of course some with be returning to their parent clubs at some point, but it just seems a ridiculously high number of players. It means that in addition to the 16 man squad on duty on Saturday, we must have had 9 players sitting in the stand getting paid for being spectators. I think out of those Moke and Curry were possibly unavailable due to injury, but even so it seems excessive.
Given our limited budget I can only assume that management are trying to move some players on, but are perhaps finding it difficult to find clubs willing to take them. I understand the need to bring in some fresh blood, but surely that has to be a limit to the number of players we can have at the club.
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It has the potential to become very messy as Taylor, Lees, Sukar & Nelson have all been offered to other clubs. Rivers apparently also said he was 'out-of'-favour' on Saturday.
JG also wanted rid of Hazel, and I'm not convinced he sees Hedley as the answer after dropping him after two decent performances for the new player on loan from Barnsley.
Moke & Curry are injured, Mustoe is out of the picture.
Harker was signed to be the poster boy of the Academy.
JG also wanted rid of Hazel, and I'm not convinced he sees Hedley as the answer after dropping him after two decent performances for the new player on loan from Barnsley.
Moke & Curry are injured, Mustoe is out of the picture.
Harker was signed to be the poster boy of the Academy.
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Surely he has to back himself to improve the players we have.Quakers2009 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:45 amIt has the potential to become very messy as Taylor, Lees, Sukar & Nelson have all been offered to other clubs.
He hasn't even tried.
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Personally, I think it is too late with some of the players, some of the players will have the hump with JG and will want away - talk about losing the dressing room before you have even properly started. I think the best approach would have been for a gradual change and try and bringing everyone with you - all he has done now alienated certain players. If say Tommy Taylor comes back in and makes a blunder he will now have the perfect excuse and will blame it on the situation. Footballers love having excuses and we have given many of the players an excuse why they will not run through brick walls for us. I don't think JG is too far away from the push, the pressure is already building, people are pulling their boost the budget money, lose this weekend I think he will be gone.Beano wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:23 pmSurely he has to back himself to improve the players we have.Quakers2009 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:45 amIt has the potential to become very messy as Taylor, Lees, Sukar & Nelson have all been offered to other clubs.
He hasn't even tried.
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I hope people are not pulling there boost the budget, this will put the club in a very difficult position, and not what fans would want surely. Will keep my monthly one going even if we are heading down. When things get tough that is the time to stick together surely, (certainly IMO).
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Big mistake offering those 4 players to other clubs, what has Simms got that Nelson hasn't,same with TT/Robson and Sukar/Winfield.The first person out of our club should be Gowling and keep those lads.Rapidly getting deflated the longer this guy is at the club.Quakers2009 wrote:It has the potential to become very messy as Taylor, Lees, Sukar & Nelson have all been offered to other clubs. Rivers apparently also said he was 'out-of'-favour' on Saturday.
JG also wanted rid of Hazel, and I'm not convinced he sees Hedley as the answer after dropping him after two decent performances for the new player on loan from Barnsley.
Moke & Curry are injured, Mustoe is out of the picture.
Harker was signed to be the poster boy of the Academy.
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One hundred percentage agree with you. Whatever the current problems are, we as fans have to be in it for the long haul.50 years wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 2:16 pmI hope people are not pulling there boost the budget, this will put the club in a very difficult position, and not what fans would want surely. Will keep my monthly one going even if we are heading down. When things get tough that is the time to stick together surely, (certainly IMO).
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If this is true then I wouldn't be so sure Gowling is doing it out of his own free will, I'd be inclined to think it would be a cost cutting exercise a bit like how the majority of Martin Gray's squad was shipped out and replaced with mostly bargain basement signings under Tommy Wright.Quakers2009 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:45 amIt has the potential to become very messy as Taylor, Lees, Sukar & Nelson have all been offered to other clubs. Rivers apparently also said he was 'out-of'-favour' on Saturday.
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Yes there isn’t a bottomless supply of money and Armstrong has spunked it…as well as being still paid for sitting on his arse doing nowt….which is what he was doing since around last Christmas !quaker4life wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 3:15 pmIf this is true then I wouldn't be so sure Gowling is doing it out of his own free will, I'd be inclined to think it would be a cost cutting exercise a bit like how the majority of Martin Gray's squad was shipped out and replaced with mostly bargain basement signings under Tommy Wright.Quakers2009 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:45 amIt has the potential to become very messy as Taylor, Lees, Sukar & Nelson have all been offered to other clubs. Rivers apparently also said he was 'out-of'-favour' on Saturday.
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Yeah, all those players from the Midlands travelling for nothing….Styche, Trotman, Mills, Heaton etc.quaker4life wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 3:15 pmIf this is true then I wouldn't be so sure Gowling is doing it out of his own free will, I'd be inclined to think it would be a cost cutting exercise a bit like how the majority of Martin Gray's squad was shipped out and replaced with mostly bargain basement signings under Tommy Wright.Quakers2009 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:45 amIt has the potential to become very messy as Taylor, Lees, Sukar & Nelson have all been offered to other clubs. Rivers apparently also said he was 'out-of'-favour' on Saturday.
They were all on good money.
What happened under Tommy Wright is happening under Gowling now.
Remember when we all called Tommy’s team a bunch of pea-hearted players from the Midlands, and desperately wanted us to return to our NE roots? That’ll be us again in 6 months.
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Well let’s hope there are some similarities with TW’s first season. All of those players he shipped out turned us from the relegation zone at Christmas to mid table come May.Darlofan97 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:07 pmYeah, all those players from the Midlands travelling for nothing….Styche, Trotman, Mills, Heaton etc.quaker4life wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 3:15 pmIf this is true then I wouldn't be so sure Gowling is doing it out of his own free will, I'd be inclined to think it would be a cost cutting exercise a bit like how the majority of Martin Gray's squad was shipped out and replaced with mostly bargain basement signings under Tommy Wright.Quakers2009 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:45 amIt has the potential to become very messy as Taylor, Lees, Sukar & Nelson have all been offered to other clubs. Rivers apparently also said he was 'out-of'-favour' on Saturday.
They were all on good money.
What happened under Tommy Wright is happening under Gowling now.
Remember when we all called Tommy’s team a bunch of pea-hearted players from the Midlands, and desperately wanted us to return to our NE roots? That’ll be us again in 6 months.
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Not to mention we later sold Heaton and Styche for good money, and probably would have got a good fee for Trotman had he not suffered a bad injury.CrazyDarlo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:21 pmWell let’s hope there are some similarities with TW’s first season. All of those players he shipped out turned us from the relegation zone at Christmas to mid table come May.Darlofan97 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:07 pmYeah, all those players from the Midlands travelling for nothing….Styche, Trotman, Mills, Heaton etc.quaker4life wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 3:15 pmIf this is true then I wouldn't be so sure Gowling is doing it out of his own free will, I'd be inclined to think it would be a cost cutting exercise a bit like how the majority of Martin Gray's squad was shipped out and replaced with mostly bargain basement signings under Tommy Wright.Quakers2009 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:45 amIt has the potential to become very messy as Taylor, Lees, Sukar & Nelson have all been offered to other clubs. Rivers apparently also said he was 'out-of'-favour' on Saturday.
They were all on good money.
What happened under Tommy Wright is happening under Gowling now.
Remember when we all called Tommy’s team a bunch of pea-hearted players from the Midlands, and desperately wanted us to return to our NE roots? That’ll be us again in 6 months.
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Is this the same TW who took us down near the bottom of the table by going W1, D3, L7 in his first eleven league games after inheriting a W5, D6, L5 side?CrazyDarlo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:21 pmWell let’s hope there are some similarities with TW’s first season. All of those players he shipped out turned us from the relegation zone at Christmas to mid table come May.Darlofan97 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:07 pmYeah, all those players from the Midlands travelling for nothing….Styche, Trotman, Mills, Heaton etc.quaker4life wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 3:15 pmIf this is true then I wouldn't be so sure Gowling is doing it out of his own free will, I'd be inclined to think it would be a cost cutting exercise a bit like how the majority of Martin Gray's squad was shipped out and replaced with mostly bargain basement signings under Tommy Wright.Quakers2009 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:45 amIt has the potential to become very messy as Taylor, Lees, Sukar & Nelson have all been offered to other clubs. Rivers apparently also said he was 'out-of'-favour' on Saturday.
They were all on good money.
What happened under Tommy Wright is happening under Gowling now.
Remember when we all called Tommy’s team a bunch of pea-hearted players from the Midlands, and desperately wanted us to return to our NE roots? That’ll be us again in 6 months.
I also seem to remember a couple of inherited players performing out of their skin, notably Syers & Thompson. Heaton was already known to the club, too. We signed him after he recovered from a broken collar bone having been on trial with the club in the summer of that year.
We were also able to sign Styche with the funds generated from the sale of Beck, Bartlett & Ferguson. As we've just approved £13k to be allocated to the playing budget, I don't think we have the money to sign a twenty goal NLN forward to bail us out this time around.
Although I hope I'm wrong and we can wheel & deal our way to safety.
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Good job there are no "leavers" envelopes being passed around - would be more than the next BTB fund! And I'll have to invest in a programme or team sheet at every game just to keep up with the changes

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Couldn't agree more.Darlofan97 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:07 pmRemember when we all called Tommy’s team a bunch of pea-hearted players from the Midlands, and desperately wanted us to return to our NE roots? That’ll be us again in 6 months.
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Indeed.Quakers2009 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 10:42 pmIs this the same TW who took us down near the bottom of the table by going W1, D3, L7 in his first eleven league games after inheriting a W5, D6, L5 side?
It's was only the signing of the talismanic Styche which helped break us out of that 1-3-7 run. Without that signing we were toothless and could have gone down.
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Trotman sacked it off in the end to go on reality TV, can't really blame the lad it opened up a lot of doors for him outside of Football.OldGit wrote:Not to mention we later sold Heaton and Styche for good money, and probably would have got a good fee for Trotman had he not suffered a bad injury.
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D.J's always on about "sweating his assets"
Looks like we're all sweating now....

Looks like we're all sweating now....
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