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Re: Peterborough V Darlington

Post by darlo_baron » Tue Nov 07, 2023 8:49 pm

QUAKERMAN2 wrote:
Tue Nov 07, 2023 8:38 pm
Ghost_Of_1883 wrote:Lawlor is out with a back injury so Lees takes his place, other than that an unchanged line up. Rivers added to the bench.

Liddle, Curry and Windass injured.

Strange that the left back loanee Winfield isn't in the squad either.

No mention of Sukar, Mustoe in the official site match preview, everyone else above got a mention. I think it's safe to say they're well out of favour.
Don't know why Gowling is excluding Sukar from the squad, big mistake imo considering he can cover LB and CB and no such player on the bench.Crazy imo.

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As we have Burton at LCB who is three times the player and can’t say I’ve been impressed when Sukar plays LB. He was solid enough last season at CB but is also a member of the defence that spent 6 months conceding goals for fun.

I can certainly see why he’s not flavour of the month.
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Re: Peterborough V Darlington

Post by QUAKERMAN2 » Tue Nov 07, 2023 8:56 pm

Quakerlad wrote:My how we need a centre forward!!

Played decent for most of half but no cutting edge as usual and we concede the obligatory goal from a poorly defended cross. Hedley done for pace and not a centre half or goalkeeper in sight.

We really have to be beating these teams, they are utter rubbish but beating us.
What’s the betting Gowling brings Simms on for Nelson , totally predictable.


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Re: Peterborough V Darlington

Post by QUAKERMAN2 » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:09 pm

QUAKERMAN2 wrote:
Quakerlad wrote:My how we need a centre forward!!

Played decent for most of half but no cutting edge as usual and we concede the obligatory goal from a poorly defended cross. Hedley done for pace and not a centre half or goalkeeper in sight.

We really have to be beating these teams, they are utter rubbish but beating us.
What’s the betting Gowling brings Simms on for Nelson , totally predictable.


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Nelson on for a change.

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Re: Peterborough V Darlington

Post by Quakerlad » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:25 pm

This guy just really winds me up, I honestly think he is clueless!!

Do we go 0-2 down and brings Nelson on. Great 2 up front. No. Still playing this kind of 4231 system with a lone striker and no width whatsoever.

He has our new right wing back playing left back?

He has hazel playing a kind of right sided midfield role, and has spent more time in our half than the oppositions.

He has signed a left back, right back and centre forward recently, none of which he believes are good enough to start a game.

Let’s not kid ourselves that Farsley was a turning point, we are simply not good enough. In last few weeks we have lost to some very poor teams. Not sure we have had a shot on target again tonight so far.

He is a joke who is going to take us down at this rate.

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Re: Peterborough V Darlington

Post by JasonDeVos » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:38 pm

Quakerlad wrote:
Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:25 pm
This guy just really winds me up, I honestly think he is clueless!!

Do we go 0-2 down and brings Nelson on. Great 2 up front. No. Still playing this kind of 4231 system with a lone striker and no width whatsoever.

He has our new right wing back playing left back?

He has hazel playing a kind of right sided midfield role, and has spent more time in our half than the oppositions.

He has signed a left back, right back and centre forward recently, none of which he believes are good enough to start a game.

Let’s not kid ourselves that Farsley was a turning point, we are simply not good enough. In last few weeks we have lost to some very poor teams. Not sure we have had a shot on target again tonight so far.

He is a joke who is going to take us down at this rate.
Absolutely this - surely all his data told him his signings were crap

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Re: Peterborough V Darlington

Post by quakersam » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:49 pm

That was utter fucking wank. That 2nd half was one of the worst Darlo performances I’ve ever seen
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Re: Peterborough V Darlington

Post by JasonDeVos » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:51 pm

quakersam wrote:
Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:49 pm
That was utter fucking wank. That 2nd half was one of the worst Darlo performances I’ve ever seen
Did not even bother to watch it - enthusiasm is at zero

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Re: Peterborough V Darlington

Post by Darlo_CR » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:53 pm

Things look bleak, very bleak.

Thought Saturday may have been the turning point but unfortunately not. We’re going to need title challenging form after Christmas just to stay up..

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Re: Peterborough V Darlington

Post by Darlo_CR » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:59 pm

Chester on Saturday.. won 5 out of their last 5 in the league. I fear for the attendance as well after tonight.

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Re: Peterborough V Darlington

Post by QUAKERMAN2 » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:59 pm

Quakerlad wrote:This guy just really winds me up, I honestly think he is clueless!!

Do we go 0-2 down and brings Nelson on. Great 2 up front. No. Still playing this kind of 4231 system with a lone striker and no width whatsoever.

He has our new right wing back playing left back?

He has hazel playing a kind of right sided midfield role, and has spent more time in our half than the oppositions.

He has signed a left back, right back and centre forward recently, none of which he believes are good enough to start a game.

Let’s not kid ourselves that Farsley was a turning point, we are simply not good enough. In last few weeks we have lost to some very poor teams. Not sure we have had a shot on target again tonight so far.

He is a joke who is going to take us down at this rate.
His loan signings have been woeful with possibly Rowe the exception.Whats with playing Hazell in midfield when we are chasing the game, no natural left footed LB on the bench or a CB, not a single shot on goal 2nd half, what does Ngundu bring to the side, we have gifted them 2 goals tonight by the sounds of it.Not good enough Gowling and god knows how far we will be adrift after our next 2 games.

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Re: Peterborough V Darlington

Post by polam » Tue Nov 07, 2023 10:00 pm

Thought that we were unlucky to go behind in the first half, but we never threatened in the second half and didn't look like scoring. Left before full time to get an earlier train as there was no risk of missing a goal.

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Re: Peterborough V Darlington

Post by Quakers2009 » Tue Nov 07, 2023 10:22 pm

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Tue Nov 07, 2023 8:46 pm
My how we need a centre forward!!

Played decent for most of half but no cutting edge as usual and we concede the obligatory goal from a poorly defended cross. Hedley done for pace and not a centre half or goalkeeper in sight.

We really have to be beating these teams, they are utter rubbish but beating us.
Not a goalkeeper in sight?

Were you really expecting Taylor to collect that cross before it went 0-1?

We were woeful in the second-half, decent in the first-half but PSL were way off it.

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Re: Peterborough V Darlington

Post by don'tbuythesun » Tue Nov 07, 2023 10:28 pm

My lad used to travel all over with me but now rarely gets to a game. He watched tonight on telly and I can't repeat what he said about Hazel. He wasn't complimentary about anyone but is still talking about going to Chorley with me. Strange times.

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Re: Peterborough V Darlington

Post by quaker4life » Tue Nov 07, 2023 10:56 pm

Eight points adrift with Chester and Chorley to come, excellent!

Back to square one.
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Re: Peterborough V Darlington

Post by theoriginalfatcat » Tue Nov 07, 2023 11:23 pm

The league table at present is mad.

5 points separating positions 22 to 21.
5 points separating positions 21 to 6.
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Re: Peterborough V Darlington

Post by lo36789 » Wed Nov 08, 2023 6:30 am

Darlo_CR wrote:
Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:53 pm
Things look bleak, very bleak.

Thought Saturday may have been the turning point but unfortunately not. We’re going to need title challenging form after Christmas just to stay up..
I am sure there is some maths behind this - but in my simple mind. Don't we just need 9 more points than the teams around us in the remainder of the season?

I can see all of them being in playoff challenging form for the rest of the season? So unclear why we need title challenging form.

We do have a decent run of fixtures after we play Chester and Chorley we almost play the bottom 7 sides (apart from us).

Warrington (13th)
Rushall (21st)
Southport (17th)
Banbury (16th)
Gloucester (23rd)
Bishop's Stortford (22nd)
Scarborough (18th)
Scarborough (18th)
King's Lynn (20th)

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Re: Peterborough V Darlington

Post by JE93 » Wed Nov 08, 2023 7:52 am

First half there was plenty of hope. It genuinely was a good performance, controlled the ball well, pressed high, didn't give Peterborough a sniff of our goal for most of the first half. We were a bit toothless, not taking the shot on early enough, but other than that fairly positive. Then we win a free kick where our player requires treatment but two Darlo players are the only two yellow carded. Unfortunately that means when Hedley loses the first contact in the second phase of that free kick he can't take a cheap yellow and bring his man down. They come forward, deep ball to the back post and their lad has tried to square it across the face, it's hit a Darlo player and gone in. Not even sure it was on target but with their only half chance of the game we're 1-0 down. Most of the rest of the half was a none event.

Then second half, seemed like no one really wanted the ball anymore. The press dropped, the balls from the back went from being played into midfield to aimless lumped balls that the CBs of Peterborough would have happily defended all night. When we did get into potential shooting positions we were slow to take the shot. Then their lad starts making a run down the left hand side, by my count there were 4 players he went past, not one of them on a yellow. Not one of them tried to take a tactical foul, all just weakly letting him run through.

Burton and Hatfield deserve lots of credit for their performance. Burton won everything in the air all night and Hatfield put him self about, winning second balls and driving us forward.

Salkeld put in lots of effort and running, but I don't see him as a CF. Lindley and Platt were good first half, plenty of the ball happy to take it in tight areas. Ngandu I thought was tidy, turned his full back a few times and got breaking into the pitch but lacked a final ball.

As for the others nothing really of note from any of them. Hazel was a passenger for all of the second half. Coulfnt hold the ball, wouldn't put a challenge in when he lost it, couldn't pass to a player in blue. How he stayed on for 90 mins I'll never know, Ngandu should have stayed on pushed Salkeld right and Nelson through the middle. Taylor had nothing to do but pick the ball out his net twice, neither goal he stood much of a chance with. The full backs were meh, okayish defensively though I think Griffiths is starting to look very leggy for a full back, going forward too often crosses hit the first man. Lees was totally out shone by Burton who seemed to do most of the defensive work.

Subs didn't really have any impact on the game. Nelson having long balls pinged at him isn't going to work. Rowe looked like a fish out of water at LB and Rivers was weak when he came on.

Don't really know what the answer is tbh. When you concede goals like the first last night, in the manner you concede them (having dominated the ball all half) then you're in trouble. We definitely need a target man striker, I think that would definitely help us in the 4-2-3-1 to keep.the ball higher up the pitch. And we need to get rid of some of this deadwood around the squad (not likely that there will be many takers).

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Re: Peterborough V Darlington

Post by theoriginalfatcat » Wed Nov 08, 2023 8:08 am

Good read ⬆️ more informative than the Echo!
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Re: Peterborough V Darlington

Post by eddie-rowles » Wed Nov 08, 2023 8:30 am

Its the hope that kills you, One step forward and two steps back, If Burton doesn't extend his loan (would you?) and Hatfield or Platt pick up an injury , 3 match ban or just get worn down by rest of team not giving an arse and want a move then we are well and truly screwed. We are on an increasing downward spiral brought about Gowling and Roses choices and this will take several seasons to recover from and affect the enthusiasm for a new ground built to northern premier league standards . Big shout out to those fans who travelled last night, waking up feeling knackered

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Re: Peterborough V Darlington

Post by jjljks » Wed Nov 08, 2023 8:40 am

lo36789 wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2023 6:30 am
Darlo_CR wrote:
Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:53 pm
Things look bleak, very bleak.

Thought Saturday may have been the turning point but unfortunately not. We’re going to need title challenging form after Christmas just to stay up..
I am sure there is some maths behind this - but in my simple mind. Don't we just need 9 more points than the teams around us in the remainder of the season?

I can see all of them being in playoff challenging form for the rest of the season? So unclear why we need title challenging form.

We do have a decent run of fixtures after we play Chester and Chorley we almost play the bottom 7 sides (apart from us).

Warrington (13th)
Rushall (21st)
Southport (17th)
Banbury (16th)
Gloucester (23rd)
Bishop's Stortford (22nd)
Scarborough (18th)
Scarborough (18th)
King's Lynn (20th)
Recent results against these sides are not very encouraging apart from Gloucester. As Mike said on DFR, this season's NLN teams all seem to play very poorly, so not much difference between us & them. Lady Luck has deserted us completely but this will turn, although no telling when.

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Re: Peterborough V Darlington

Post by Vodka_Vic » Wed Nov 08, 2023 8:42 am

Gowling's interview makes it sound like we had their goal under siege. Being one of the Darlo fans present last night, believe me, it wasn't.

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Re: Peterborough V Darlington

Post by AndyPark » Wed Nov 08, 2023 8:52 am

Vodka_Vic wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2023 8:42 am
Gowling's interview makes it sound like we had their goal under siege. Being one of the Darlo fans present last night, believe me, it wasn't.
I turned the game off at 2-0, was dreadful once again.

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Re: Peterborough V Darlington

Post by Quakerlad » Wed Nov 08, 2023 9:31 am

Vodka_Vic wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2023 8:42 am
Gowling's interview makes it sound like we had their goal under siege. Being one of the Darlo fans present last night, believe me, it wasn't.
Must have been watching a different game. Rays first comment, something like “we paid the penalty for missing a hatful of chances” and then JG agrees with him.

Griffiths had a 1:1 and that’s all I can remember, it’s not like their goalie had much to do.

Same old comments from JG and do find it annoying the way he laughs during the interviews, when we are really hurting. Cannot help it, just don’t like him!

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Re: Peterborough V Darlington

Post by QUAKERMAN2 » Wed Nov 08, 2023 9:33 am

Vodka_Vic wrote:Gowling's interview makes it sound like we had their goal under siege. Being one of the Darlo fans present last night, believe me, it wasn't.
Vodka_Vic wrote:Gowling's interview makes it sound like we had their goal under siege. Being one of the Darlo fans present last night, believe me, it wasn't.
I take what he says with a pinch of salt Adam,talks a good talk but nothing else.Why is he freezing out Sukar yet plays Hedley and Rowe at LB when they are right footed ? Also all these loan signings he has made and at least 4 have been nowhere near good enough.Playing Hazell in midfield ?.Not good enough from our management team……roll on Chester!


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Re: Peterborough V Darlington

Post by Darlo_CR » Wed Nov 08, 2023 9:41 am

QUAKERMAN2 wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2023 9:33 am
Vodka_Vic wrote:Gowling's interview makes it sound like we had their goal under siege. Being one of the Darlo fans present last night, believe me, it wasn't.
Vodka_Vic wrote:Gowling's interview makes it sound like we had their goal under siege. Being one of the Darlo fans present last night, believe me, it wasn't.
I take what he says with a pinch of salt Adam,talks a good talk but nothing else.Why is he freezing out Sukar yet plays Hedley and Rowe at LB when they are right footed ? Also all these loan signings he has made and at least 4 have been nowhere near good enough.Playing Hazell in midfield ?.Not good enough from our management team……roll on Chester!


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Adding to the fact he signed a LB from Barnsley who has been nowhere to be seen..

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Re: Peterborough V Darlington

Post by Old Git » Wed Nov 08, 2023 9:52 am

lo36789 wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2023 6:30 am
Darlo_CR wrote:
Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:53 pm
Things look bleak, very bleak.

Thought Saturday may have been the turning point but unfortunately not. We’re going to need title challenging form after Christmas just to stay up..
I am sure there is some maths behind this - but in my simple mind. Don't we just need 9 more points than the teams around us in the remainder of the season?

I can see all of them being in playoff challenging form for the rest of the season? So unclear why we need title challenging form.

We do have a decent run of fixtures after we play Chester and Chorley we almost play the bottom 7 sides (apart from us).

Warrington (13th)
Rushall (21st)
Southport (17th)
Banbury (16th)
Gloucester (23rd)
Bishop's Stortford (22nd)
Scarborough (18th)
Scarborough (18th)
King's Lynn (20th)
Not sure it really matters who we play at the present time. When you are bottom of the league every other team is better than you, so in theory you are the underdogs every time you play.
We have a pretty pathetic 11 points from 16 games, so to achieve a realistic survival target of 50 points, we need 39 points from the next 30 games, or put another way a return of 1.3 points per game. You are correct that is not playoff form, but more like a mid table points return.

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Re: Peterborough V Darlington

Post by Quakers2009 » Wed Nov 08, 2023 10:07 am

Quakerlad wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2023 9:31 am
Vodka_Vic wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2023 8:42 am
Gowling's interview makes it sound like we had their goal under siege. Being one of the Darlo fans present last night, believe me, it wasn't.
Must have been watching a different game. Rays first comment, something like “we paid the penalty for missing a hatful of chances” and then JG agrees with him.

Griffiths had a 1:1 and that’s all I can remember, it’s not like their goalie had much to do.

Same old comments from JG and do find it annoying the way he laughs during the interviews, when we are really hurting. Cannot help it, just don’t like him!
Ray's 'we paid for missed chances, they had a hint of fortune' spin is a joke given that we created very little.

We must be the unluckiest, cash-strapped, bottom placed club that the National League has ever seen.

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Re: Peterborough V Darlington

Post by Geordie Quaker » Wed Nov 08, 2023 10:09 am

The hard facts of this are:

- Our current PPG is 0.69 (0.66 for AA, 0.71 for JG)

- To get to 50 points we now need 1.3 PPG from our remaining 30 matches

- Our PPG last season was 1.45, and that was largely attributable to a time when we had better players in attacking areas.

- Our current goals per game is 0.75. Last season it was 1.56.

- Basically we already need top ten form for a sustained 30 game period.

We are in a world of s***. And I know this will make me sound like an entitled prick, but we are trailing behind absolute nothing clubs. Places that don't appear on road signs until you are two miles away. Clubs with a core support that could comfortably fit in a XL rabbit pen. Teams who have message boards with about as much traffic as Inuit service station. Teams who share most of their fans with Premier League clubs. And we are nowhere b****** near them.

Massive kudos to the dedicated lunatics trekking to away games right now - I do not know how you find the determination to stand through this utter guff.

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Re: Peterborough V Darlington

Post by Spyman » Wed Nov 08, 2023 10:33 am

lo36789 wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2023 6:30 am
Darlo_CR wrote:
Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:53 pm
Things look bleak, very bleak.

Thought Saturday may have been the turning point but unfortunately not. We’re going to need title challenging form after Christmas just to stay up..
I am sure there is some maths behind this - but in my simple mind. Don't we just need 9 more points than the teams around us in the remainder of the season?

I can see all of them being in playoff challenging form for the rest of the season? So unclear why we need title challenging form.

We do have a decent run of fixtures after we play Chester and Chorley we almost play the bottom 7 sides (apart from us).

Warrington (13th)
Rushall (21st)
Southport (17th)
Banbury (16th)
Gloucester (23rd)
Bishop's Stortford (22nd)
Scarborough (18th)
Scarborough (18th)
King's Lynn (20th)
Correct. Look at last season as an example.

Over the first half of the season we had title challenging form.

Over the second half of the season we had relegation form.

We finished mid-table, just outside the playoffs.

So by that logic, assuming the league shapes up roughly as it did last season, title challenging form from Xmas onwards would have us finishing mid-table, just outside the playoffs. If our goal is simply to stay up, then we certainly need to improve dramatically, but we don't need to be among the best teams in the league.

And as we know our budget is mid-table, then in theory we should be able to achieve that form. Not to say we will, and the longer we go without showing a consistant upturn in results, the less likely it becomes - but its perfectly doable at this stage.
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Re: Peterborough V Darlington

Post by Quakerlad » Wed Nov 08, 2023 10:35 am

I see Hazel is getting a load of grief again across social media, but I feel quite sorry for him.

Am sure if he was asked he would say he cannot play the lone forward role. Yet basically all season he has done that. Last few games JG is now playing him in a kind of right midfield role and last night was rarely anywhere near the oppo penalty area. Play him alongside a bigger guy who can link play and you will see a completely different outcome, that’s what is missing from the team.

I would back him over any other of our players to score if we were giving them decent chances but we just don’t. How many did he score as a result of timing his run into the box to get onto both Felix and Lamberts crosses. A lot. Currently we have no width whatsoever.

Yes, sometimes he can appear to not give as much as others but we need to give the guy a break in my opinion.

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