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Re: Hazel
Massive mistake to let go the only player at our club who is capable of scoring 20 goals a season.
It beggars belief if we sell him.
It beggars belief if we sell him.
Re: Hazel
Should be building a side around him, not alienating him while trying to flog him to a rivalGhost_Of_1883 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 3:46 pmMassive mistake to let go the only player at our club who is capable of scoring 20 goals a season.
It beggars belief if we sell him.
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Certainly a player who divides opinion. Not withstanding the fact that most agree he is not being played in his best position and given enough support, on the other side the coin it is clear that other teams have worked him out this season. One season wonder maybe? Never going to get 20 goals whatever team he plays in. Also his first touch and distribution, actually finding a Darlo player with his passes is a concern. Plus his half-hearted tackles, arguing with the Ref suggest that he might not be such a big loss after all he does leave AS LONG AS we replace him with someone better.Ghost_Of_1883 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 3:46 pmMassive mistake to let go the only player at our club who is capable of scoring 20 goals a season.
It beggars belief if we sell him.
Re: Hazel
His track record says he will always get goals.bga wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:38 pmCertainly a player who divides opinion. Not withstanding the fact that most agree he is not being played in his best position and given enough support, on the other side the coin it is clear that other teams have worked him out this season. One season wonder maybe? Never going to get 20 goals whatever team he plays in. Also his first touch and distribution, actually finding a Darlo player with his passes is a concern. Plus his half-hearted tackles, arguing with the Ref suggest that he might not be such a big loss after all he does leave AS LONG AS we replace him with someone better.Ghost_Of_1883 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 3:46 pmMassive mistake to let go the only player at our club who is capable of scoring 20 goals a season.
It beggars belief if we sell him.
Typical of Darlo fans this, I remember other strikers getting dogs abuse because they didn’t score enough despite having decent goal returns.
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Re: Hazel
Would be crazy letting him go without a replacement that's at least as good, but good strikers at our level are like gold dust.Wouldn't sy no to Mark Beck mind !LoidLucan wrote:I doubt we would land a replacement who had scored 19 goals in a season at this level.
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Re: Hazel
Is making comments about a players performance/contribution abuse? His track record is one full season at NLN level. See my last sentence so you wouldn't replace him with someone who could actually score more goals than him?loan_star wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:45 pmHis track record says he will always get goals.bga wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:38 pmCertainly a player who divides opinion. Not withstanding the fact that most agree he is not being played in his best position and given enough support, on the other side the coin it is clear that other teams have worked him out this season. One season wonder maybe? Never going to get 20 goals whatever team he plays in. Also his first touch and distribution, actually finding a Darlo player with his passes is a concern. Plus his half-hearted tackles, arguing with the Ref suggest that he might not be such a big loss after all he does leave AS LONG AS we replace him with someone better.Ghost_Of_1883 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 3:46 pmMassive mistake to let go the only player at our club who is capable of scoring 20 goals a season.
It beggars belief if we sell him.
Typical of Darlo fans this, I remember other strikers getting dogs abuse because they didn’t score enough despite having decent goal returns.
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Two other teams in our league are reported to be interested in Jacob Hazel. But the wisdom in some quarters of our fan base is that he is not interested, is lazy, and has been found out by other sides in our league so as to nullify his threat after one good season. Makes you wonder why any side at our level hasn't taken heed of these obvious flaws. Must be mad.
Re: Hazel
Spot on.Ghost_Of_1883 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 3:46 pmMassive mistake to let go the only player at our club who is capable of scoring 20 goals a season.
It beggars belief if we sell him.
The grief he is currently getting is crazy. He is wanted by other clubs because he is a natural goal scorer with a great track record.
Honestly, how many actual chances have we created for him recently? Bring in a physical centre forward alongside him and watch him go.
Would be Gowlings worse decision if lets him go, and he’s made some bad ones!!
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Suggest you read my post again, I said “other strikers getting dogs abuse”. I didn’t not accuse you of abusing Hazel.bga wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:51 pmIs making comments about a players performance/contribution abuse? His track record is one full season at NLN level. See my last sentence so you wouldn't replace him with someone who could actually score more goals than him?loan_star wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:45 pmHis track record says he will always get goals.bga wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:38 pmCertainly a player who divides opinion. Not withstanding the fact that most agree he is not being played in his best position and given enough support, on the other side the coin it is clear that other teams have worked him out this season. One season wonder maybe? Never going to get 20 goals whatever team he plays in. Also his first touch and distribution, actually finding a Darlo player with his passes is a concern. Plus his half-hearted tackles, arguing with the Ref suggest that he might not be such a big loss after all he does leave AS LONG AS we replace him with someone better.Ghost_Of_1883 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 3:46 pmMassive mistake to let go the only player at our club who is capable of scoring 20 goals a season.
It beggars belief if we sell him.
Typical of Darlo fans this, I remember other strikers getting dogs abuse because they didn’t score enough despite having decent goal returns.
He will score goals wherever he goes, his record suggests this, if you play to his strengths, which we haven’t done for a good few months.
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Re: Hazel
Hazel is the best goal scorer in the squad and in an ideal world we would bring in someone to support him and not replace him. However, strikers are expensive we may not have the resources to do that.Quakerlad wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 6:18 pmSpot on.Ghost_Of_1883 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 3:46 pmMassive mistake to let go the only player at our club who is capable of scoring 20 goals a season.
It beggars belief if we sell him.
The grief he is currently getting is crazy. He is wanted by other clubs because he is a natural goal scorer with a great track record.
Honestly, how many actual chances have we created for him recently? Bring in a physical centre forward alongside him and watch him go.
Would be Gowlings worse decision if lets him go, and he’s made some bad ones!!
What we cannot do is what we’ve done since February. Continue to try Hazel as a 9, Nelson as a 9 or both of them up together because it simply hasn’t worked.
If he is allowed to leave, that decision will ultimately be judged on the quality of his replacement.
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Imagine the pressure on the new lad, replacing a player who got over 20 goals last season. If he doesn’t hit the ground running then just imagine the reaction.
This could be another major bad move by Gowling if it’s true.
This could be another major bad move by Gowling if it’s true.
Re: Hazel
Seems a weird situation at the moment any rotation that Gowling does or the moment a player is missing from the starting XI they are destined for an exit.
I don't know if Hazel will have endeared himself to Gowling as a high intensity striker who wins the ball back up high up the pitch. Lets be honest he is a complete passenger when it comes to that if you play it a yard either side of him he can't be bothered to move to get it - instead just moans - but he clearly can score when he is given enough opportunities to do so...
Hard to imagine we'd be able to replace his goals during the season - but does he create a problem for JG as if you you are a man down pressing up top then it creates the gaps in between your press which is where you get punished.
I don't know if Hazel will have endeared himself to Gowling as a high intensity striker who wins the ball back up high up the pitch. Lets be honest he is a complete passenger when it comes to that if you play it a yard either side of him he can't be bothered to move to get it - instead just moans - but he clearly can score when he is given enough opportunities to do so...
Hard to imagine we'd be able to replace his goals during the season - but does he create a problem for JG as if you you are a man down pressing up top then it creates the gaps in between your press which is where you get punished.
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Re: Hazel
Building a side around him? I think you mean that unless he has a very good side around him he is a waste of space, and we can't wait a year to put together side just so Hazel can actually score goals. Unless the plan is to wait until we are in the NPL. A big man alongside Hazel won't make him able to control a ball or lay it off to a team mate.loan_star wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:11 pmShould be building a side around him, not alienating him while trying to flog him to a rivalGhost_Of_1883 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 3:46 pmMassive mistake to let go the only player at our club who is capable of scoring 20 goals a season.
It beggars belief if we sell him.
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Re: Hazel
Since time immemorial Darlo fans have needed a scapegoat. Hazel is now it. He goes, we get a new striker who doesn't get 20 goals either, and suddenly it'll be another stick to beat Gowling with.
I would guarantee that, if Hazel went to Scarborough or Farsley, he would score more goals this season than whoever ends up our top scorer.
Post above is tosh. He scored 20 plus goals last season unless that was a dream. He has a 1 in 2 goal ratio in his career. Pretty good for someone you believe can't do any of the basics of football correctly.
I would guarantee that, if Hazel went to Scarborough or Farsley, he would score more goals this season than whoever ends up our top scorer.
Post above is tosh. He scored 20 plus goals last season unless that was a dream. He has a 1 in 2 goal ratio in his career. Pretty good for someone you believe can't do any of the basics of football correctly.
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Great, we just need to reassemble last year's team and Hazel will be able to score goals again.DavidCurriesMullet wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 7:39 pmSince time immemorial Darlo fans have needed a scapegoat. Hazel is now it. He goes, we get a new striker who doesn't get 20 goals either, and suddenly it'll be another stick to beat Gowling with.
I would guarantee that, if Hazel went to Scarborough or Farsley, he would score more goals this season than whoever ends up our top scorer.
Post above is tosh. He scored 20 plus goals last season unless that was a dream. He has a 1 in 2 goal ratio in his career. Pretty good for someone you believe can't do any of the basics of football correctly.
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I was a big Jacob Hazel fan last year, but he hasn’t been the same player since Beck left in January of this year. Having said that he is not the only player to disappoint in recent times.
I heard a rumour yesterday that we are bringing in a new striker this week, so presumably we need to sell him to finance a move for a new goalscorer.
Is it a risk ? Yes of course it is, but playing devils advocate, we did score 3 goals yesterday without him on the pitch, so maybe it isn’t the end of the world if he moves on. However, if he does go and he isn’t replaced with someone who gets a lot of goals, Josh is going to take some criticism for sure.
I heard a rumour yesterday that we are bringing in a new striker this week, so presumably we need to sell him to finance a move for a new goalscorer.
Is it a risk ? Yes of course it is, but playing devils advocate, we did score 3 goals yesterday without him on the pitch, so maybe it isn’t the end of the world if he moves on. However, if he does go and he isn’t replaced with someone who gets a lot of goals, Josh is going to take some criticism for sure.
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Re: Hazel
For all his failings Hazel has proven he can get goals and for that reason alone I'd be loathed to move him on.
However, if JG intends on continuing with a single striker (which I wish he wouldn't) then Hazel will continue to struggle for goals. Both he and Nelson are simply not cut out for the single striker role - the ball simply does not stick.
However, if JG intends on continuing with a single striker (which I wish he wouldn't) then Hazel will continue to struggle for goals. Both he and Nelson are simply not cut out for the single striker role - the ball simply does not stick.
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Loanstar, you seem to have a huge amount of patience regarding Hazel - but very little patience regarding Gowling.loan_star wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:11 pmShould be building a side around him, not alienating him while trying to flog him to a rivalGhost_Of_1883 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 3:46 pmMassive mistake to let go the only player at our club who is capable of scoring 20 goals a season.
It beggars belief if we sell him.
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Re: Hazel
Possibly because Hazel has proved himself capable both for us and other teams whereas Gowling got sacked for being mediocre.theoriginalfatcat wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 8:20 pmLoanstar, you seem to have a huge amount of patience regarding Hazel - but very little patience regarding Gowling.loan_star wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:11 pmShould be building a side around him, not alienating him while trying to flog him to a rivalGhost_Of_1883 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 3:46 pmMassive mistake to let go the only player at our club who is capable of scoring 20 goals a season.
It beggars belief if we sell him.
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Re: Hazel
His track record is one of scoring goals in the right formation. One up front isn’t his game and never will be.Yarblockos wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 7:23 pmBuilding a side around him? I think you mean that unless he has a very good side around him he is a waste of space, and we can't wait a year to put together side just so Hazel can actually score goals. Unless the plan is to wait until we are in the NPL. A big man alongside Hazel won't make him able to control a ball or lay it off to a team mate.loan_star wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:11 pmShould be building a side around him, not alienating him while trying to flog him to a rivalGhost_Of_1883 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 3:46 pmMassive mistake to let go the only player at our club who is capable of scoring 20 goals a season.
It beggars belief if we sell him.
Only a fool can’t see this.
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Nearly all managers have been sacked at one time or another, it goes with the job - even Alex Ferguson got the sack.loan_star wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 8:51 pmPossibly because Hazel has proved himself capable both for us and other teams whereas Gowling got sacked for being mediocre.theoriginalfatcat wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 8:20 pmLoanstar, you seem to have a huge amount of patience regarding Hazel - but very little patience regarding Gowling.loan_star wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:11 pmShould be building a side around him, not alienating him while trying to flog him to a rivalGhost_Of_1883 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 3:46 pmMassive mistake to let go the only player at our club who is capable of scoring 20 goals a season.
It beggars belief if we sell him.
Not looking for ruckjust pointing it out.
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Agreed but Hazel needs to be able to adapt his game to fit into the style and formation that Gowling wants to play. Rather than Gowling needs to change his style and formation to best accommodate Hazel. If he can’t do that then perhaps he’s not the right fit for us and a move would be best for all parties.loan_star wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 8:53 pmHis track record is one of scoring goals in the right formation. One up front isn’t his game and never will be.Yarblockos wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 7:23 pmBuilding a side around him? I think you mean that unless he has a very good side around him he is a waste of space, and we can't wait a year to put together side just so Hazel can actually score goals. Unless the plan is to wait until we are in the NPL. A big man alongside Hazel won't make him able to control a ball or lay it off to a team mate.loan_star wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:11 pmShould be building a side around him, not alienating him while trying to flog him to a rivalGhost_Of_1883 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 3:46 pmMassive mistake to let go the only player at our club who is capable of scoring 20 goals a season.
It beggars belief if we sell him.
Only a fool can’t see this.
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Or just reassemble all of the other teams he played in previously and scored 20-30 goals a season.Yarblockos wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 7:53 pmGreat, we just need to reassemble last year's team and Hazel will be able to score goals again.DavidCurriesMullet wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 7:39 pmSince time immemorial Darlo fans have needed a scapegoat. Hazel is now it. He goes, we get a new striker who doesn't get 20 goals either, and suddenly it'll be another stick to beat Gowling with.
I would guarantee that, if Hazel went to Scarborough or Farsley, he would score more goals this season than whoever ends up our top scorer.
Post above is tosh. He scored 20 plus goals last season unless that was a dream. He has a 1 in 2 goal ratio in his career. Pretty good for someone you believe can't do any of the basics of football correctly.
Re: Hazel
Where has this idea come from that Hazel "needs to play off a big man"? if you look at his goalscoring stats from last season he scored 9 of his 19 league goals after Mark Beck left. And he could have had another one if he hadn't gifted Nelson the penalty at Fylde.
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Hazel isn’t going to adapt his game at his age.CrazyDarlo wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:10 pmAgreed but Hazel needs to be able to adapt his game to fit into the style and formation that Gowling wants to play. Rather than Gowling needs to change his style and formation to best accommodate Hazel. If he can’t do that then perhaps he’s not the right fit for us and a move would be best for all parties.loan_star wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 8:53 pmHis track record is one of scoring goals in the right formation. One up front isn’t his game and never will be.Yarblockos wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 7:23 pmBuilding a side around him? I think you mean that unless he has a very good side around him he is a waste of space, and we can't wait a year to put together side just so Hazel can actually score goals. Unless the plan is to wait until we are in the NPL. A big man alongside Hazel won't make him able to control a ball or lay it off to a team mate.loan_star wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:11 pmShould be building a side around him, not alienating him while trying to flog him to a rivalGhost_Of_1883 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 3:46 pmMassive mistake to let go the only player at our club who is capable of scoring 20 goals a season.
It beggars belief if we sell him.
Only a fool can’t see this.
That isn’t a choice not to, by the way. The way which he plays is simply locked in.
We should be looking to develop a style/system around him. I have rarely seen a centre-forward at this level capable of consistently generating chances on goal in & around the penalty box with his style/movement.
Selling him would carry a huge risk.