Chorley

[loan_star]

I don’t want to hear the “but we only had 10 men brigade”. Shut up shop, battle hard and maybe concede one or two more. Lose respectfully. Leave it all out there. Body on the line for every cross and shot.

That right there was a spineless capitulation. It’s a shambles. To lose 8 (EIGHT) nil is pathetic. A lot of the players need to take a look at themselves but also, Gowling is not the answer.

P: 10
W: 2
D: 2
L: 6

8 points from a possible 27.

Conceded 24 goals.

This, this & this.

The players gave up tonight - that performance was the worst I've seen from any DFC side, ever. The tactics of constantly playing from the back at 0-3 and not going into damage limitation mode has cost us.

Zero game management whatsoever.

I have never watched a game where the referee felt sorry for us, until tonight.

We are seriously pinning our hopes on an un-fit Asante bailing us out of this mess.

Does he fancy trying to score 9 every week?

[Ghost_Of_1883]

What matters now is the 2 home games next week against Warrington and Rushall. I still think 4 points from those 2 games would be reasonable, and would mean 10 points gained from 6 league games. If we achieve that it will be a big improvement on the form earlier in the season.

Tbf Gowling has already got more points in the last 5 games than Armstrong did in his 9 games.

He's also had a few easier fixtures.

[Makka Pakka]

What matters now is the 2 home games next week against Warrington and Rushall. I still think 4 points from those 2 games would be reasonable, and would mean 10 points gained from 6 league games. If we achieve that it will be a big improvement on the form earlier in the season.

Tbf Gowling has already got more points in the last 5 games than Armstrong did in his 9 games.

Stop quoting facts it confuses the Armstrong fan boys

So we're actually better under Gowling?

[Darlofan97]

What matters now is the 2 home games next week against Warrington and Rushall. I still think 4 points from those 2 games would be reasonable, and would mean 10 points gained from 6 league games. If we achieve that it will be a big improvement on the form earlier in the season.

Tbf Gowling has already got more points in the last 5 games than Armstrong did in his 9 games.

And look who Alun played.

7 of his 8 fixtures were against teams now in the top 10.

[lo36789]

I was being a bit selective...

I just find it incredible that people can shift so suddenly from positivity to despair in 90 minutes.

The results, performance, everything sounds terrible. But also I expected 0 points from the last 2 and we have 3 points. Get 6 points in the next 2 and as I say I really couldn't care less.

Didn't Southampton do something really weird after getting battered by Leicester 9-0 a few seasons ago - it seemed to kick start their revival?

[Old Git]

Poor old hard done by Alan.

[LoidLucan]

What matters now is the 2 home games next week against Warrington and Rushall. I still think 4 points from those 2 games would be reasonable, and would mean 10 points gained from 6 league games. If we achieve that it will be a big improvement on the form earlier in the season.

Tbf Gowling has already got more points in the last 5 games than Armstrong did in his 9 games.

AA had a total of 8 games this season in which we gained 6 points. Gowling took us out of the FA Cup and has 8 points from his 9 league games.

[Vodka_Vic]

I was being a bit selective...

I just find it incredible that people can shift so suddenly from positivity to despair in 90 minutes.

The results, performance, everything sounds terrible. But also I expected 0 points from the last 2 and we have 3 points. Get 6 points in the next 2 and as I say I really couldn't care less.

Didn't Southampton do something really weird after getting battered by Leicester 9-0 a few seasons ago - it seemed to kick start their revival?

Soutampton hadn't already lost 5-0, 4-0 and 4-0 that season. The 9-0 was a one-off. Tonight wasn't

[lo36789]

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[lo36789]

I was being a bit selective...

I just find it incredible that people can shift so suddenly from positivity to despair in 90 minutes.

The results, performance, everything sounds terrible. But also I expected 0 points from the last 2 and we have 3 points. Get 6 points in the next 2 and as I say I really couldn't care less.

Didn't Southampton do something really weird after getting battered by Leicester 9-0 a few seasons ago - it seemed to kick start their revival?

Soutampton hadn't already lost 5-0, 4-0 and 4-0 that season. The 9-0 was a one-off. Tonight wasn't

Blaming Gowling for the defeats to Buxton and Scunthorpe feels a little harsh.

[Quakers2009]

What matters now is the 2 home games next week against Warrington and Rushall. I still think 4 points from those 2 games would be reasonable, and would mean 10 points gained from 6 league games. If we achieve that it will be a big improvement on the form earlier in the season.

Tbf Gowling has already got more points in the last 5 games than Armstrong did in his 9 games.

After Gowling went D1, L2 in his first three NLN games?

8 NLN fixtures for AA - six points.
9 NLN fixtures for JG - eight points - plus a 2-1 loss to Scarborough in the FA Cup.

& we concede more goals on average per game under JG.

[The_Natural]

To be clear I am not convinced Gowling is the answer at all, but what other options are they?

Could we really sack him after 10 games and have 3 managers on the payroll the latest will likely want new players to.

We have to give him (or anyone we appointed) a reasonable time to bring his own players in and turn it around.

He is trying to polish a stinking turd left him by the last guy who had the stuffing knocked out of him once we lost dodds and beck etc…
The mistake , which we are continuing to pay for financially and jn results was giving him a 2 year contract , all we can do is hope Gowling turns it around as not many other options without seriously spending money it’not clear we have

[Quakers2009]

What matters now is the 2 home games next week against Warrington and Rushall. I still think 4 points from those 2 games would be reasonable, and would mean 10 points gained from 6 league games. If we achieve that it will be a big improvement on the form earlier in the season.

Tbf Gowling has already got more points in the last 5 games than Armstrong did in his 9 games.

Stop quoting facts it confuses the Armstrong fan boys

So we're actually better under Gowling?

Take no notice, it's lo trying to be clever - again.

[loan_star]

I was being a bit selective...

I just find it incredible that people can shift so suddenly from positivity to despair in 90 minutes.

The results, performance, everything sounds terrible. But also I expected 0 points from the last 2 and we have 3 points. Get 6 points in the next 2 and as I say I really couldn't care less.

Didn't Southampton do something really weird after getting battered by Leicester 9-0 a few seasons ago - it seemed to kick start their revival?

An 8-0 capitulation might just have something to do with that.

[Darlofan97]

To be clear I am not convinced Gowling is the answer at all, but what other options are they?

Could we really sack him after 10 games and have 3 managers on the payroll the latest will likely want new players to.

We have to give him (or anyone we appointed) a reasonable time to bring his own players in and turn it around.

He is trying to polish a stinking turd left him by the last guy who had the stuffing knocked out of him once we lost dodds and beck etc…
The mistake , which we are continuing to pay for financially and jn results was giving him a 2 year contract , all we can do is hope Gowling turns it around as not many other options without seriously spending money it’not clear we have

Adam Lakeland was a good option.

So was Steve Watson.

[Quakers2009]

I was being a bit selective...

I just find it incredible that people can shift so suddenly from positivity to despair in 90 minutes.

The results, performance, everything sounds terrible. But also I expected 0 points from the last 2 and we have 3 points. Get 6 points in the next 2 and as I say I really couldn't care less.

Didn't Southampton do something really weird after getting battered by Leicester 9-0 a few seasons ago - it seemed to kick start their revival?

Did you watch the game tonight by any chance?

We lost EIGHT NIL.

It was an insult to every supporter who placed their hard-earned money into BTB in the summer, and also to those who travelled along the M6 this evening.

But yeah, we didn't really expect any points from Chester or Chorley, so fair game and on we go to Scunthorpe on Saturday...

[Darlo_Pete]

Having a player sent off in the 6th minute and then losing a CB within 15 minutes and playing a side in the play-offs, we were always odds on to get a hammering given those set of circumstances. Blaming the manager for what goes on once the players take to the field is ridiculous. We have taken 6 out of the last possible 12, that is hardly relegation form. There is too much paranoia on here for my liking.

[lo36789]

After Gowling went D1, L2 in his first three NLN games?

I do think that is quite an important word.

8-0 is shocking there are no doubts about it - I still think you need to allow a manager more than 10 games.

[BM1883]

Having a player sent off in the 6th minute and then losing a CB within 15 minutes and playing a side in the play-offs, we were always odds on to get a hammering given those set of circumstances. Blaming the manager for what goes on once the players take to the field is ridiculous. We have taken 6 out of the last possible 12, that is hardly relegation form. There is too much paranoia on here for my liking.

“ Blaming the manager for what goes on once the players take to the field is ridiculous”

Have you seriously just written that?

Do you understand how football management works?

By your logic no manager would ever be sacked. The IQ in this forum at times.

[Darlo_Rob]

Yes the players capitulated and have to take the blame for this defeat, but which manager in their right mind keeps 3 attacking players on the field when we're 3 down, then 4 down, then 5 down. We're going to lose the game at that stage, so shut up shop as best you can and limit the damage.

I'm not calling for Gowling to go or stay, but a 5 year old could have managed that team better tonight.

[loan_star]

Having a player sent off in the 6th minute and then losing a CB within 15 minutes and playing a side in the play-offs, we were always odds on to get a hammering given those set of circumstances. Blaming the manager for what goes on once the players take to the field is ridiculous. We have taken 6 out of the last possible 12, that is hardly relegation form. There is too much paranoia on here for my liking.

I’d call a hammering 4 or 5 nil, not 8 for gods sake. It’s not a hammering, it’s a massacre.

[Quakers2009]

After Gowling went D1, L2 in his first three NLN games?

I do think that is quite an important word

I can certainly see why you defend Gowling - kindred spirit springs to mind.

[lo36789]

Not really defending anyone - the scoreline is terrible - the result is kind of what I expected.

I just think we appear to have started to pick up points in the past five games - it just seems sensible that you would at least give him two or three more - rather than throwing in a whole new round of upheaval.

[biccynana]

7 now is this our worst defeat ever?

No, I was at Doncaster for that.

What my dad, a Doncastrian, knows about football you can write on the back of a stamp in capitals. It comprises the fact that DFC's biggest defeat was 10-0 at Doncaster, 25 Jan 1964.

[jjljks]

Every schoolboy error was there, from senseless dangerous challenges, woeful marking & no system plus some cracking goals from Chorley & Moke. The Fans Forum needs to be postponed while this debarcle sinks in & people calm down.

[MB86DFC]

Every schoolboy error was there, from senseless dangerous challenges, woeful marking & no system plus some cracking goals from Chorley & Moke. The Fans Forum needs to be postponed while this debarcle sinks in & people calm down.

No it does not. The club need to hear what the owners think. You can’t just move it to a time which makes it more comfortable for those who have put us in this position.

[Quakerlad]

Yes the players capitulated and have to take the blame for this defeat, but which manager in their right mind keeps 3 attacking players on the field when we're 3 down, then 4 down, then 5 down. We're going to lose the game at that stage, so shut up shop as best you can and limit the damage.

I'm not calling for Gowling to go or stay, but a 5 year old could have managed that team better tonight.

This is part of the problem making it very hard to accept JG, he gets so many basics very wrong and has done throughout his tenure.

Every manager that I can remember sacrifices an attacker and tightens up when down to 10, more so when it’s early on. Not him. Surely Platt should have been straight on, he was fresh for gods sake not having played Sat. Ridiculous to keep him on bench all game.

Rowe was getting slaughtered all game down left yet he had Griffiths on bench.

Apart from Burton which was almost a no brainer, I haven’t seen one of his signings past or present that are of the standard we need to improve us, not one. Jury out on the new striker obviously.

[darlo_baron]

Slept on that, as little as I got. I’ve never felt so despondent.

And I suppose therein lies the problem. How many of the players can you actually say care? Quitting like that is stuff you expect to see from poor under 14 sides. They are decently paid footballers, many without another job. Any sign of adversity and they fold.

Supporters of the club pour money into it every year and the return is non existent. You can accept defeat but not in that manner and it’s been the identify of this team since the start of the season. I’d never pull my BTB contribution but I increased it for this season and I’m left wondering why I bother.

An 8-0 defeat is not forgotten. It’s an absolute disgrace. I’m sure we will win games coming up but any respect there was for this team died last night. There needs to be an understanding that everything they earn is a direct result of fan contributions and there’s a responsibility that comes with that. Mainly actually trying.

[Piggy_]

Slept on that, as little as I got. I’ve never felt so despondent.

And I suppose therein lies the problem. How many of the players can you actually say care? Quitting like that is stuff you expect to see from poor under 14 sides. They are decently paid footballers, many without another job. Any sign of adversity and they fold.

Supporters of the club pour money into it every year and the return is non existent. You can accept defeat but not in that manner and it’s been the identify of this team since the start of the season. I’d never pull my BTB contribution but I increased it for this season and I’m left wondering why I bother.

An 8-0 defeat is not forgotten. It’s an absolute disgrace. I’m sure we will win games coming up but any respect there was for this team died last night. There needs to be an understanding that everything they earn is a direct result of fan contributions and there’s a responsibility that comes with that. Mainly actually trying.

I agree with all of that -although I’m not sure about many players don’t have another job? Really?

[Emdubya]

Just seen the goals and most of them are absolutely shocking.Chorley were strolling through us with minimal effort time after time.These players are either unfit or not playing for this bloke or possibly both.Maybe they spend too much time sat on their arses watching videos and listening to Gowling flapping his lips about analytics than they do actually training.
This has got to be the end of JG.The board have got to be big enough to hold their hands up and admit they dropped a huge bollock going with him.
We are a laughing stock.