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Warrington

Post by Wiseacre » Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:53 am

I say 2-0 to Darlo; three points, clean sheet and forget all that Chorley stuff. We could also have something else to debate then endless interpretation of various posts.

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Re: Warrington

Post by theoriginalfatcat » Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:22 am

These next two games are vital - pivotal.

Everyone has to pull together......
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Re: Warrington

Post by Heaton out » Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:45 am

Totally agree, we must get together and get behind the team and coaching staff as the next two are massive and winnable IMO , ill go 2-1 to us with Asante scoring on his home debut

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Re: Warrington

Post by Old Git » Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:00 am

Pleased to see some welcome positivity for a change. I don’t care about the score as long as we win, but I do agree these 2 games do feel really important as a barometer of where our season is heading. If we don’t win at least one I think the knives will be well and truly sharpened.
Without Nelson and Simms I would assume Hazel will play upfront with Asante maybe getting 25/30 minutes from the bench. Defence likely to be Griffiths, Lees, Sukar and Hedley, with Lawlor still injured. I think I would go with Platt, Hatfield and Moke in midfield, and Salkeld and Rivers for some width. That gives us some younger legs on the bench wit Lydley and Rowe to come on if we need them.
Lets forget the negativity from last week and make this a good one.

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Re: Warrington

Post by AndyPark » Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:52 am

Be surprised to see Hazel tonight if the rumours are to believed about his next destination.

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Re: Warrington

Post by Beano » Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:53 am

AndyPark wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:52 am
Be surprised to see Hazel tonight if the rumours are to believed about his next destination.
What are the rumours about his destination?

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Re: Warrington

Post by CrazyDarlo » Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:06 pm

I’m hoping there might be a signing or two this afternoon as we are really lacking options tonight. If Hazel isn’t involved, team may look like this.

Taylor

Griffiths Lees Sukar Hedley
Moke Platt Lindley
Rivers Salkeld Hatfield

Rowe, Winfield, Harker, Asante

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Re: Warrington

Post by AndyPark » Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:13 pm

Beano wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:53 am
AndyPark wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:52 am
Be surprised to see Hazel tonight if the rumours are to believed about his next destination.
What are the rumours about his destination?
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Re: Warrington

Post by LoidLucan » Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:23 pm

They are desperate for a fit goalscorer with a proven record. He's signed for them.

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Re: Warrington

Post by Ghost_Of_1883 » Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:41 pm

Wiseacre wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:53 am
I say 2-0 to Darlo; three points, clean sheet and forget all that Chorley stuff. We could also have something else to debate then endless interpretation of various posts.
It is impossible for a backline of Griffiths, Sukar, Lees and Hedley to keep a clean sheet. And as we have one unfit striker, this is going to be 0-3.

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Re: Warrington

Post by PierremontQuaker03 » Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:52 pm

So all these loan signings, ins and outs and it looks like we will be relying on the core of players that got us into this mess into the first place tonight.
Given all of the contacts JG has (allegedly) I was expecting us to push the boat out over the weekend and go again, but alas nothing. I have no confidence in the defence and we have not managed to move anyone on yet (which is hardly surprising given our position).
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Re: Warrington

Post by al_quaker » Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:58 pm

Hopefully Asanti is fit enough to give us something up front tonight, as I'm not quite sure what we'll do otherwise. We've struggled to score goals even with strikers playing

And with Lawlor out I'm worried (even more than usual...) about our ability to keep a clean sheet too

So, to sum up, I'm not that optimistic :lol:

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Re: Warrington

Post by MB86DFC » Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:01 pm

al_quaker wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:58 pm
Hopefully Asanti is fit enough to give us something up front tonight, as I'm not quite sure what we'll do otherwise. We've struggled to score goals even with strikers playing

And with Lawlor out I'm worried (even more than usual...) about our ability to keep a clean sheet too

So, to sum up, I'm not that optimistic :lol:

Asanti can’t be expected to perform yet as he’s played about 20 minutes in the last 8 months. He will be in at some point in the second half when the game is already beyond saving.

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Re: Warrington

Post by Quakers2009 » Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:06 pm

PierremontQuaker03 wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:52 pm
So all these loan signings, ins and outs and it looks like we will be relying on the core of players that got us into this mess into the first place tonight.
Given all of the contacts JG has (allegedly) I was expecting us to push the boat out over the weekend and go again, but alas nothing. I have no confidence in the defence and we have not managed to move anyone on yet (which is hardly surprising given our position).
Winfield's loan is also set to expire in six days.

IF Winfield returns to Barnsley, which he likely will do based on his lack of playing time with us, we are left with just four 'new signings' after nine came in.

How many have left? Barnes, Felix, Hazel - with Robson, Hannah, Burton, Winfield & Simms returning to their parent clubs?

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Re: Warrington

Post by Old Git » Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:08 pm

Old Git wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:00 am
Pleased to see some welcome positivity for a change. I don’t care about the score as long as we win, but I do agree these 2 games do feel really important as a barometer of where our season is heading. If we don’t win at least one I think the knives will be well and truly sharpened.
Without Nelson and Simms I would assume Hazel will play upfront with Asante maybe getting 25/30 minutes from the bench. Defence likely to be Griffiths, Lees, Sukar and Hedley, with Lawlor still injured. I think I would go with Platt, Hatfield and Moke in midfield, and Salkeld and Rivers for some width. That gives us some younger legs on the bench wit Lydley and Rowe to come on if we need them.
Lets forget the negativity from last week and make this a good one.
Oh well scrub that now Hazel gone. Asante the only recognised striker available, but doubt he has 90 minutes in him, so unless a new signing announcement today, we look extremely lightweight upfront.

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Re: Warrington

Post by theoriginalfatcat » Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:08 pm

It seems strange to lionise Hazel now - he's been poor this season.

We're not really going to miss his goals are we.
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Re: Warrington

Post by The_Natural » Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:36 pm

2-0--Early Asante goal...defensive solidity and a late breakaway!

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Re: Warrington

Post by Lawman3 » Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:50 pm

I'm tempering my expectations tonight (as always). Warrington are having a decent season (comfortably mid-table, 3 points off the playoffs, decent run of wins in the league). They have got a few injuries which might be a blessing, but, having sold Hazel, and Asante needing a "mini pre-season" before he is match fit, I can't really see us winning this one. We have looked toothless up front all season (the first half against Chester was a welcome aberration).

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Re: Warrington

Post by real_darlo_85 » Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:54 pm

Biggest worry in the time JG has been here is the apparent lack of a plan.

Yes, he inherited a squad devoid of confidence and a degree of ability but his approach really has been haphazard. When he first came in he was of the opinion that he could work with who was here, yet has barely given the original players a chance before chopping them and bringing in short term young loanees. Tactically in my opinion he has been rather naive, instead of keeping things simple he has tried to play a more complex system with players not able to adapt to it or have confidence to play the required roles asked of them, added to which again the high turnover of loan players has not helped.

Losing Hazel to me is either a case of JG chopping a player because he doesn't think he's good enough/inherited player or forced to financially by bringing in Asante. Either way it doesn't add to squad cohesion and means we go into a potentially crucial set of games with a lack of recognised strikers and with a few of the loanees returning, the irony is we are reliant on the remains of the squad he had to begin with (after ditching some of these for the ineffective loanees!) - so again no plan.

At the moment it just feels like the club winged appointing JG and he in turn is winging player recruitment/tactics in more of desperate hope to try and get out of this mess rather than a coherent plan.
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Re: Warrington

Post by lo36789 » Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:12 pm

We were expecting one in one out weren't we - as that is what budget allowed for.

I expected the loans were meant to be temporary breathing space which may have allowed for more outgoings to free up the budget to bring in others - rather than permanent solutions.

As it happens we are basically Asanti and Ngandu in, Hazel and Felix out compared to where Gowling started from?

Which does make it a gamble - proven but under performing out - unproven and uncertain (fitness) in.

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Re: Warrington

Post by Quakers2009 » Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:15 pm

Who’s Asanti?

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Re: Warrington

Post by AndyPark » Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:21 pm

Quakers2009 wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:15 pm
Who’s Asanti?
Thinking that myself, amount of people getting the name wrong :lol: :lol: Gave me a chuckle.

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Re: Warrington

Post by MikeinBlack2 » Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:23 pm

real_darlo_85 wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:54 pm
Biggest worry in the time JG has been here is the apparent lack of a plan.

Yes, he inherited a squad devoid of confidence and a degree of ability but his approach really has been haphazard. When he first came in he was of the opinion that he could work with who was here, yet has barely given the original players a chance before chopping them and bringing in short term young loanees. Tactically in my opinion he has been rather naive, instead of keeping things simple he has tried to play a more complex system with players not able to adapt to it or have confidence to play the required roles asked of them, added to which again the high turnover of loan players has not helped.

Losing Hazel to me is either a case of JG chopping a player because he doesn't think he's good enough/inherited player or forced to financially by bringing in Asante. Either way it doesn't add to squad cohesion and means we go into a potentially crucial set of games with a lack of recognised strikers and with a few of the loanees returning, the irony is we are reliant on the remains of the squad he had to begin with (after ditching some of these for the ineffective loanees!) - so again no plan.

At the moment it just feels like the club winged appointing JG and he in turn is winging player recruitment/tactics in more of desperate hope to try and get out of this mess rather than a coherent plan.
I think that this pretty much sums our situation up really.
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Re: Warrington

Post by Old Git » Tue Nov 21, 2023 3:01 pm

lo36789 wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:12 pm
We were expecting one in one out weren't we - as that is what budget allowed for.

I expected the loans were meant to be temporary breathing space which may have allowed for more outgoings to free up the budget to bring in others - rather than permanent solutions.

As it happens we are basically Asanti and Ngandu in, Hazel and Felix out compared to where Gowling started from?

Which does make it a gamble - proven but under performing out - unproven and uncertain (fitness) in.
I think you are forgetting about Lyndley and Rowe who have joined until the end of the season.

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Re: Warrington

Post by BM1883 » Tue Nov 21, 2023 3:43 pm

real_darlo_85 wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:54 pm
Biggest worry in the time JG has been here is the apparent lack of a plan.

Yes, he inherited a squad devoid of confidence and a degree of ability but his approach really has been haphazard. When he first came in he was of the opinion that he could work with who was here, yet has barely given the original players a chance before chopping them and bringing in short term young loanees. Tactically in my opinion he has been rather naive, instead of keeping things simple he has tried to play a more complex system with players not able to adapt to it or have confidence to play the required roles asked of them, added to which again the high turnover of loan players has not helped.

Losing Hazel to me is either a case of JG chopping a player because he doesn't think he's good enough/inherited player or forced to financially by bringing in Asante. Either way it doesn't add to squad cohesion and means we go into a potentially crucial set of games with a lack of recognised strikers and with a few of the loanees returning, the irony is we are reliant on the remains of the squad he had to begin with (after ditching some of these for the ineffective loanees!) - so again no plan.

At the moment it just feels like the club winged appointing JG and he in turn is winging player recruitment/tactics in more of desperate hope to try and get out of this mess rather than a coherent plan.
Hit the nail on the head with this mate.

Board needs to wake up and smell the coffee before it’s too late.

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Re: Warrington

Post by lo36789 » Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:51 pm

I just hope we can not concede in the opening 10 minutes...

If we can do that and then sneak a goal I fancy us to win.

If we concede early...in fact when was the last time we won in in the league from a losing position?

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Re: Warrington

Post by tdk1 » Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:54 pm

lo36789 wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:51 pm
I just hope we can not concede in the opening 10 minutes...

If we can do that and then sneak a goal I fancy us to win.

If we concede early...in fact when was the last time we won in in the league from a losing position?
I saw it was 25 years since the Burnley fa cup tie at the Riverside the other day. It feels like it was probably then.

A better question would be: when was the last time ANYTHING good happened?

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Re: Warrington

Post by theoriginalfatcat » Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:55 pm

lo36789 wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:51 pm
I just hope we can not concede in the opening 10 minutes...

If we can do that and then sneak a goal I fancy us to win.

If we concede early...in fact when was the last time we won in in the league from a losing position?
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Re: Warrington

Post by lo36789 » Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:19 pm

4th February 2023

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Re: Warrington

Post by Old Git » Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:22 pm

lo36789 wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:51 pm
I just hope we can not concede in the opening 10 minutes...

If we can do that and then sneak a goal I fancy us to win.

If we concede early...in fact when was the last time we won in in the league from a losing position?
For the record I think it was when we beat Telford 3-1 at home on 4th of February.

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