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Re: Rugby League

Post by Darlo_Pete » Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:27 am

Ed I'd be interested to know if you think the Sky coverage overall is good or bad for Rugby League? Me personally I think it is good for Rugby League, as it raises the profile of Rugby League as a national sport. It allows me to watch my side from a distance, as I don't have the time or money to regularly watch my side Wigan. I think they do cover games really well, but there coverage is biased towards the biggest sides. I also realise that they can change there televised games at short notice, which also happens in football. Do you know how much Sky put into Rugby League for their TV deal?

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Re: Rugby League

Post by EDJOHNS » Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:42 am

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Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:27 am
Ed I'd be interested to know if you think the Sky coverage overall is good or bad for Rugby League? Me personally I think it is good for Rugby League, as it raises the profile of Rugby League as a national sport. It allows me to watch my side from a distance, as I don't have the time or money to regularly watch my side Wigan. I think they do cover games really well, but there coverage is biased towards the biggest sides. I also realise that they can change there televised games at short notice, which also happens in football. Do you know how much Sky put into Rugby League for their TV deal?
What a loaded question.

Sky money was £995,000 per season to be split between the clubs with a match day TV appearance fee of £37.500 to each club.

I suppose the money is useful to fill the pockets of mediocre Australian players etc who are not good enough for the NRL. Is it good for the game? Not 1 jot it is not. I am not knocking people watching TV if they can't travel, but Sky have now put me in that group because of the number of night matches. It is a different situation than football for a number of reasons, starting with the medical aspect of the recovery period. This means that even if not on TV a sides game day can be changed to a night match because of the 5 day rule if the next side they play are on TV that week.
Second, The Prem has 20 clubs, the SL has 12,(11 when you discount Cats because of their own TV deals and down to 10 with Toronto going the same way). which means that clubs are on TV more because of that.
As they are having all 9 games played on New years day in the prem, there is no reason why they should not do the same with RL.
I know some clubs, (Hull being 1 and Warrington another), like home games on a Friday night. That is not so bad, but remembering the game prides itself on being family orientated, to ask people to take young kids the length of the M62 on a Thursday night is nonsensical. If we go to Wigan or Saints for a night match it is after 1am at best before people get home. Kids then getting up for school is not a good idea. While some will say don't take young kids, if you go to Cas in particular, pre game on the pitches outside the ground they have about 300-400 young kids all playing the game in mini leagues before going in for the match. We at KR regularly have a number of the cities junior clubs playing mini rugby pre match and at half time on the hallowed turf of CP. That is before you think about junior cheerleaders, mascots and all the rest.
They manage to fill up the screens all weekend with Union. There are far more top flight union clubs than league when you take in the Irish and European games. Let them take the strain or at least a part of it.
I get they want "live" sport on Thursday nights. I pay my bills and I do as well, but think how many complaints you hear from football clubs because the Europa league is on Thursday night, how it hinders clubs because of having to play at the weekend, because they have not time to recover etc. Football can not be compared with rugby league which is the most physical game there is by far.
I was talking on a group just this week about a film I watch regularly. "This sporting Earth" Richard Harris plays a rugby player for Wakefield in the early 60's. A brilliant film that shows what the game is all about, and that is NOT puffs of fire and smoke as the players come onto the pitch.
Do you remember when you were a kid? Uncle Eddie Warring on a Saturday and Sunday afternoon for the second half of a rugby league game live.
"Er er up and under to Uddersfield". ..... Oh what a smack in the chops. Go on there lad". " ...... "The handbags are out and the claret is flowing. Go on Billy lad give him 1 for me"

Ah, those were the days !!!!!!!

Think you can work out which side of this debate I am on.

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Re: Rugby League

Post by Darlo_Pete » Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:30 pm

Wow that's some post Ted, I don't know how the Superleague will change over the next 5 years, but I'm sure it will be pretty different from how things are now. Sadly not all progress is for the best, but hopefully they will address some of the issues you have raised.

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Re: Rugby League

Post by Darlo_Pete » Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:40 pm

We'll see how Great Britain do against the might of Papua New Guinea. If we lose yet again then the head coach should fall on his sword & resign.

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Re: Rugby League

Post by EDJOHNS » Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:01 am

Darlo_Pete wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:40 pm
We'll see how Great Britain do against the might of Papua New Guinea. If we lose yet again then the head coach should fall on his sword & resign.
He is out of contract soon anyway and it is already known it will not be renewed.
Lots of gripes and "good riddance" on rugby forums.

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Re: Rugby League

Post by Darlo_Pete » Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:04 am

It'll be interesting to see who they will replace him with.

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Re: Rugby League

Post by EDJOHNS » Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:04 pm

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Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:04 am
It'll be interesting to see who they will replace him with.
Apparently Sinfield is in the running along with your mate Wane. Neither for me.
Sinfield was woeful at club level with Leeds last year and I will never forget the nasty manner of Wane to a young kid at Batley 2 years ago.

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Re: Rugby League

Post by Darlo_Pete » Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:26 pm

Sinfield has had no success at coaching, so he no doubt will get the job. Wane would be a good shout, as he's had lots of success at club level & he seems well liked by all the players.

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Re: Rugby League

Post by EDJOHNS » Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:53 am

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Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:26 pm
Sinfield has had no success at coaching, so he no doubt will get the job. Wane would be a good shout, as he's had lots of success at club level & he seems well liked by all the players.
When KR were in the championship the other year I went to Batley for our game. Had no idea it was a double header with an Army v Air Force game before it. My son in law and I were given a look round the ground because we were there so early as we were most grounds that season then we went to our seats to watch the forses match.
Wane, his Mrs and 2 kids and about 3 blokes with clip boards doing some writing during the game were 2 rows in front of us.
They were not staying for our game and as they rose to leave at the end of the game some bloke from the pitch spoke to him for about 5 minutes. A young lad of about 12 stood quietly and politely far enough away and waited until he had finished talking then he stepped forward and said very politely Mr Wane, could I have your autograph please" "No" was the only response, and he actually pushed the poor kid away. Disgusting. Certainly not the way I would want an England or GB manager acting.
I know you like him for his time at Wigan, but to my mind RL prides itself on being family. (You have heard me say that often enough), and we need to encourage kids as much as possible. I have never seen ANYONE, player, coach or manager, EVER refuse a request for an autograph before in over 60 years of going to matches. (At KR matches the players even sign autographs and have photo's taken during the warm up before games.

As a ps, spoke to a hotel in Hull the other day about my problems and they have agreed to do me a deal where I pay to stay for the night for 2 games and they will give me the 3rd free. Pay 4 and 5 and 6 is free etc so I have been able to tell the club I will retain my membership. When I spoke to the club they have agreed to mention the hotel in the program each free night I get so free advertising for the hotel. Everyone's a winner. Nice place as well right in the city centre.

https://www.booking.com/hotel/gb/campan ... #hotelTmpl

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Re: Rugby League

Post by Darlo_Pete » Sat Nov 16, 2019 7:26 pm

That's good news about the accommodation. really pleased you can take up your membership, rather than letting it lapse. Waney may of been having a bad day, I wouldn't let one incident cloud your opinion of one of the best coaches we have had.

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Re: Rugby League

Post by EDJOHNS » Sat Nov 16, 2019 7:57 pm

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Sat Nov 16, 2019 7:26 pm
That's good news about the accommodation. really pleased you can take up your membership, rather than letting it lapse. Waney may of been having a bad day, I wouldn't let one incident cloud your opinion of one of the best coaches we have had.
Never liked him. He is the Wenger of RL. Never saw it when a Wigan player does anything wrong but always complains when they don't get every decision.
Not sure about him being such a good coach either. He always had the biggest budget and a number of breaches of cap along with that. Means they can always buy the best.
I would like to see someone like Chester at Wakey get the gig. Plays good rugby and can spot a good player from lower down.

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Re: Rugby League

Post by Darlo_Pete » Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:52 pm

Well we'll have to agree to disagree on the merits of Waney, it'll all come out in the wash.

Thought Great Britain were shocking today, beaten by a second rate nation. To say we looked tired is ridiculous, as we only played 4 times in 4 weeks, hardly a taxing schedule. Wayne Bennett needs to fall on his sword & do the honourable thing & resign, before h is shown his sword.

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Re: Rugby League

Post by robsraiders » Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:15 pm

Waste of time a GB team, performances were very poor, some players should not have been there, playing guys out of position was shocking would expect Tigers to beat that PNG side

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Re: Rugby League

Post by Darlo_Pete » Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:50 pm

robsraiders wrote:
Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:15 pm
Waste of time a GB team, performances were very poor, some players should not have been there, playing guys out of position was shocking would expect Tigers to beat that PNG side
Totally agree Rob it was embarrassing to say the least. Though PNG beat us all over the park & it shows what levels we have dropped too, when PNG had a player that pays for Doncaster in League one.

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Re: Rugby League

Post by Darlo_Pete » Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:37 am

Good move by Rugby League to shorten the game even more, see the link below.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/50543316

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Re: Rugby League

Post by EDJOHNS » Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:34 pm

Darlo_Pete wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:37 am
Good move by Rugby League to shorten the game even more, see the link below.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/50543316
Yep, we all know teams use it to get a breather or to slow things down when they are under the cosh. 5 seconds does not seem a lot, but it has reduced the start to finish times last season so we can expect another saving. Having shortened things by over 5 minutes last year I reckon we will gain another minute.
Yet again, football could do with looking at the area's they lose time on and follow suite. Throw in's, corners. Easy enough to employ the clock at both.

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