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Re: The world cup

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:11 pm
by Vokuhila
Colombia 0 England 2 (Sicknote Trippier 20'; Becks Lingard 30'). Eileen Drewery to get sent off at the death.

Re: The world cup

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:33 pm
by tezza
1 - 3 Columbia: To nippy for our centre backs to cope with (PS Add at least another for them if Phil Jones gets on the pitch)

Re: The world cup

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 5:43 pm
by darlo2001uk
We are due a John Stones howler at some point. Tonight?

Re: The world cup

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:36 pm
by Spyman
Thought we dominated the 90 overall but as usual bottled the finsih. Walker tried to fuck it and Tripper should've stopped their goal on the line. He got worse as the game went on unfortunately.

Still not convinced about Sterling and Alli. I don't think either holds the ball well enough. Rashford and Loftus-Cheek for me.

And Vardy - what a fucking bottler. He takes penalties for Leicester every other week yet doesn't step up for the five tonight. Huge let down. Dier got lucky with a weak penalty and would've been crucified had he missed (as would Henderson, who had a good penalty saved). Really disappointed.

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Re: The world cup

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:25 am
by lo36789
Agree with Walker and Trippier assessment. Trippier seemed to struggle to get into their half which is where he does his damage.

I see what you say about Alli and Sterling. I think Alli is struggling with injury still so if he hasn’t recovered it makes sense to play Loftus-Cheek. Sterling is more of a dilemma, I think he is a better player and more dangerous than Rashford but clearly unless he starts playing to what he can then maybe we would be better switching. I am probably thinking Southgate will stick for the Sweden game he does seem to be loyal to players in the hope that eventually it pays off.

Thought Maguire and Kane were brilliant by the way. Kane is clearly our focal point there was a moment yesterday when pressure was on a long ball up to him he not only managed to control it but get a free kick in the opponents half. Was just superb forward play.

I thought we played the game well last night until the death. Yes we only scored from a penalty but we didn’t need to do anything else as we were in control. My first incline watching it was Lingard and Henderson looked a bit sluggish before the first shot came in which lead to the corner - on review I may have been a bit unfair the shot came from nowhere really.

Re: The world cup

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:28 am
by lo36789
Also on the pens. I am lead to believe Southgate didn’t put it down to ‘choice’ he has assessed who his penalty takers would be based on psychological assessment etc. etc. It may be less that Vardy bottled it and more that Dier was simply ahead in the penalty taking stakes at such a crucial moment.

Re: The world cup

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 8:13 am
by Darlo_Pete
Wow I was wrong with my prediction. I was texting Darlo_Swede during last nights match and he was rooting for us. Great that we've finally broken the curse of never winning a penalty shootout in a knockout stage of a competitive tournament.

Re: The world cup

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:30 am
by Darlogramps
Spyman wrote:
And Vardy - what a fucking bottler. He takes penalties for Leicester every other week yet doesn't step up for the five tonight. Huge let down. Dier got lucky with a weak penalty and would've been crucified had he missed (as would Henderson, who had a good penalty saved). Really disappointed.
In fairness, Vardy was one of six spoken to by Southgate, so would have taken the sixth had it come to that. Whether he should have taken one of the original - I'm not getting into that. We won the shootout, let's just be happy at that.

The thing that does annoy about Vardy is how massively overrated he is at international level. Last night when he came on, he did nothing. Obviously he relies a lot on pace, but when you're up against a tight defence such as Colombia's, which didn't allow anything in round the back, it neutralises Vardy completely. That happens way more at international level than club level.

For Leicester, he benefits because the defences aren't as tight, and he gets teammates like Mahrez running at defenders at speed. That happens less at international level because there's not as much space, so it's easy to mark Vardy out of the game.

But because he has pace and is viewed as "a bit of a lad", some fans idolise him. One caller on 606 said Vardy was a better striker than Kane which is sheer nonsense.

Re: The world cup

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:39 am
by Spyman
I've been informed that Vardy picked up an injury in extra time so didn't take a penalty for that reason. Fair enough if that's the case.

But yes agree generally - I've not seen him do a lot for England and he's not in Kane's class. I prefer Rashford as a direct forward as he seems more willing to run at people rather than just in behind. Wellbek too for that matter although he's probably more wasteful than Vardy - his all round play is better.

I thought Sterling had his best game of the tournament last night there just hasn't been much/any end product yet and there were times last night it looked like he could get a shot away and perhaps due to lack of confidence didn't try.

On to the next game and I don't fear Sweden as much as Columbia - they look pretty toothless up front and generally seem to lack any kind of star quality whereas previous Swedish teams have always had someone - Brolin, Dahlin, Larrson, Ibrahimovich - nobody in this team worries me like Falcao (admittedly not the player he was) or Rodrigues (had he played).

Re: The world cup

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:24 pm
by lo36789
Spyman wrote:On to the next game and I don't fear Sweden as much as Columbia - they look pretty toothless up front and generally seem to lack any kind of star quality whereas previous Swedish teams have always had someone - Brolin, Dahlin, Larrson, Ibrahimovich - nobody in this team worries me like Falcao (admittedly not the player he was) or Rodrigues (had he played).
Agree. Even without those two names the likes of Cuadrado and Quintero were the type of threat who England don't deal with particularly well, at the other end of the pitch I believe that Mina / Sanchez were better equipped to deal with the threat from Sterling / Kane than Granqvist / Lindelof are.

We should win it ultimately, and at this stage I will be disappointed if we don't but any level of confidence feels like tempting fate!

Re: The world cup

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:06 pm
by murtonquaker
Darlo_Pete wrote:Wow I was wrong with my prediction. I was texting Darlo_Swede during last nights match and he was rooting for us. Great that we've finally broken the curse of never winning a penalty shootout in a knockout stage of a competitive tournament.
We beat Spain on Penalties at Euro 96, before obviously getting beat off the Germans.

The Shootout win against Spain was where Stuart Pearce took one and made up for 1990

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Re: The world cup

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:53 pm
by Darlogramps
Trust me, Pete knows that. You can tell from the way he's written it - too convoluted even by his standards.

He gets off on people correcting his deliberate mistakes for some reason.

Re: The world cup

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 6:05 pm
by Darlo_Pete
murtonquaker wrote:
Darlo_Pete wrote:Wow I was wrong with my prediction. I was texting Darlo_Swede during last nights match and he was rooting for us. Great that we've finally broken the curse of never winning a penalty shootout in a knockout stage of a competitive tournament.
We beat Spain on Penalties at Euro 96, before obviously getting beat off the Germans.

The Shootout win against Spain was where Stuart Pearce took one and made up for 1990

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Sorry didn't realise that, of course it's our first penalty shoot out win in any World Cup.

Re: The world cup

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 2:52 am
by murtonquaker
Darlogramps wrote:Trust me, Pete knows that. You can tell from the way he's written it - too convoluted even by his standards.

He gets off on people correcting his deliberate mistakes for some reason.
I'll bear that in mind in future Gramps

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Re: The world cup

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:50 pm
by Seventynine
murtonquaker wrote:
Darlogramps wrote:Trust me, Pete knows that. You can tell from the way he's written it - too convoluted even by his standards.

He gets off on people correcting his deliberate mistakes for some reason.
I'll bear that in mind in future Gramps

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Re: The world cup

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:56 pm
by Seventynine
any way im gobsmaked as to far we have kane came ..Wednesday for a semi final bloody hell

Re: The world cup

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:51 pm
by AndyPark
Get the fuck in.

Guaranteed some crank still won’t be happy though.

Re: The world cup

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 7:45 pm
by Seventynine
AndyPark wrote:Get the fuck in.

Guaranteed some crank still won’t be happy though.
apparently feethams big screen was cancelled, some labour voting bill broke a bottle. well bill , you dont give to hoots as your retiring, just remember one thing from the football club ...

Re: The world cup

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 7:53 pm
by Seventynine
it.

Re: The world cup

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:01 pm
by Seventynine
2-1 England ...Raheem.S (2)

Re: The world cup

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:21 am
by Darlo_Pete
I'm predicting Croatia to win. :o

Re: The world cup

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:52 am
by Darlo_Pete
So who do people fancy in the semi-finals? I'm going for Belgium and Croatia. :D
I'm not going to be blamed for us losing the World Cup.

Re: The world cup

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:15 pm
by murtonquaker
Darlo_Pete wrote:So who do people fancy in the semi-finals? I'm going for Belgium and Croatia. :D
I'm not going to be blamed for us losing the World Cup.
If we lose the World Cup, I am blaming you Pete, and my Dad...

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Re: The world cup

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:23 pm
by Darlo_Pete
murtonquaker wrote:
Darlo_Pete wrote:So who do people fancy in the semi-finals? I'm going for Belgium and Croatia. :D
I'm not going to be blamed for us losing the World Cup.
If we lose the World Cup, I am blaming you Pete, and my Dad...

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I can't win can I?

Re: The world cup

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:50 am
by Darlo_Pete
Well last night was a big disappointment, thought we were excellent up to half-time and then we were pretty poor after that. Still can't believe we lost. Not bothered about who wins, but reckon France will probably be too strong and fresher than Croatia.

Re: The world cup

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:05 pm
by murtonquaker
Darlo_Pete wrote:Well last night was a big disappointment, thought we were excellent up to half-time and then we were pretty poor after that. Still can't believe we lost. Not bothered about who wins, but reckon France will probably be too strong and fresher than Croatia.
First half we were good, and just let our foot off the pedal in the 2nd Half, thought Pickford had a decent game yet again.

I think France will win it now and hopefully we can salvage something out of it and beat Belgium on Saturday.

I have a new found respect for Gareth Southgate, I laughed at his appointment, but he has done exceptionally well, I dont think Big Sam would have led us to the Semi Final.

Hopefully we will qualify for the Pan-European Euro 2020 Tournament, and win it at home, as the final stages of Euro 2020 will be played at Wembley Stadium

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Re: The world cup

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:43 am
by Darlo_Pete
murtonquaker wrote:
Darlo_Pete wrote:Well last night was a big disappointment, thought we were excellent up to half-time and then we were pretty poor after that. Still can't believe we lost. Not bothered about who wins, but reckon France will probably be too strong and fresher than Croatia.
First half we were good, and just let our foot off the pedal in the 2nd Half, thought Pickford had a decent game yet again.

I think France will win it now and hopefully we can salvage something out of it and beat Belgium on Saturday.

I have a new found respect for Gareth Southgate, I laughed at his appointment, but he has done exceptionally well, I dont think Big Sam would have led us to the Semi Final.

Hopefully we will qualify for the Pan-European Euro 2020 Tournament, and win it at home, as the final stages of Euro 2020 will be played at Wembley Stadium

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I agree with you about Southgate. I was very disappointed with his appointment, I'm pleased to say he has proved me wrong. I don't think the 3rd place playoff really matters.

Re: The world cup

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:47 pm
by Feethams 1966
I agree with you about Southgate. I was very disappointed with his appointment, I'm pleased to say he has proved me wrong. I don't think the 3rd place playoff really matters.[/quote]

Ditto. Everything that man says is weighed and considered. I think I need a waistcoat.

Re: The world cup

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:21 pm
by Seventynine
Eric the half bee dire ..is he really a football player ? harlequins are recruiting, hes really really bad...we need a brand new team. southgate wont last another year, he hasn't got a clue about midfield players ,,deli ali has been the worst player iv seen in the world cup , rick christen wright rogber... wasn't any better today replacing the lanky lazy spurs iv no clue what he does , or did. we didn't press forward and attack, we pass sideways (dire) up and down , (henderson) and do nothing with the fooking ball...and has kane really got the golden boot ? well if he has, well done .

Re: The world cup

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:27 am
by Darlo_Pete
Waste of time today's 3rd/4th place game.