I have met and worked with a number of Germans throughout my life. I totally accept many of them are decent people. They have a flaw which, anyone who knows them will know is true. They are brought up to do as told without argument by those in authority. That makes them very easily led by those with ambition.Vokuhila wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 1:22 pmApologies for any misinterpretation on my part, Ed - it just seemed as though you were suggesting he was somehow the root cause of all Germans' supposed predilection for warmongering.
Either way, I'm sure if you just opened your mind a bit you'd probably find that most Germans are actually alright.
I also believe strongly that the treaty of Versailles was way over the top and was directly responsible for WW2.
All that said, they have not paid any reparations to countries as ordered at the end of WW2 yet they are demanding far more from these people than is possible for them to bare.
This may shock you. I voted to join the common market and said we should have been in from day 1 where we would have been at the top table making rules rather than be ruled over when we did join. Neither I, nor anyone else from any nation voted to join the EU. This was a concoction of the rich, for the rich, and to make them richer. I could go into a lot of detail, but some would jump and say I am being racist.
Just think about the basic principle of the EU and you will find that, LONG TERM, it is impossible for it to succeed. Countries such as Germany, France and a couple of others are reliant on a strong Euro to get the best prices when they trade. Against that, some countries rely heavily on such as tourism. That very much demands a weak Euro so that you and I can enjoy a good priced holiday. Those countries given "loans" at the formation of the Euro should never and could never be expected to pay back 117% of the GDP every year which in effect was what they have to do.
Again, some will jump and say you are joining the Euro to the EU.Yes I am. Anyone who thinks the aim is to keep them separate for ever is in cloud cuckoo land.
I put up a post yesterday re' an EU army. Merkle is quite clearly determined this will happen as are some of her co-horts. People standing back and saying "We have a veto" are just like Chamberlain with his "Peace in our time" slip of paper.
I said pages back in the post I did not want to give all my reasons for wanting out of the EU, and that remains. Fact is I got so bloody angry at the denial of remainders I said far more than I intended.
The simple bottom line when they argue we did not vote for a "no deal Brexit" That is true. We just voted LEAVE. No if's no and's no but's. LEAVE. You simply can NOT rewrite the meaning of the word Democracy to suite your version. That never has been, and never will be democracy.
Last point. I strongly believe in democracy. If we leave, and 3-6-10 years down the line voted to rejoin, from the date of the result to rejoin, I and many like me would clam up and accept it because that would be the wish of the majority.