General Election 2019

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Re: General Election 2019

Post by Darlo_Pete » Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:15 pm

Thankfully neither of the 2 main parties are interested in PR.

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Re: General Election 2019

Post by al_quaker » Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:56 pm

It wouldn't surprise me if Labour back PR at some point in the future. No system is perfect, but I think overall PR is a fairer electoral system than FPTP.

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Re: General Election 2019

Post by Darlo_Pete » Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:49 pm

Big clanger dropped by Labour's Jonathan Ashworth, a true gift for the Conservatives.

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Re: General Election 2019

Post by theoriginalfatcat » Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:07 pm

al_quaker wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:56 pm
It wouldn't surprise me if Labour back PR at some point in the future. No system is perfect, but I think overall PR is a fairer electoral system than FPTP.
I’m changing my mind about P.R. Where I live my vote simply just won’t mean a jot as it’s the safest (or second safest) Tory seat, and throughout the country there will loads of people in the same position.
Mr Singh said this " I'm not expecting to get back any of the money I've already put in, I'm prepared to write it off for the future of the club. I'm not hanging in to make any kind of financial gain in the short or long term - if someone was prepared to come in and take the club off my hands, I'd be more than willing to discuss it"

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Re: General Election 2019

Post by Old Git » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:44 pm

al_quaker wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:56 pm
It wouldn't surprise me if Labour back PR at some point in the future. No system is perfect, but I think overall PR is a fairer electoral system than FPTP.
Labour might have no choice in the matter if they ever want to form another government. They used to win a lot of seats in Scotland which was crucial in them winning an election.The rise of the SNP has made it increasingly unlikely as they can not win enough seats in England and Wales to gain an overall majority.

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Re: General Election 2019

Post by Darlo_Pete » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:52 pm

Labour will never form a majority government, as they have lost they're power in Scotland, they could never win enough seats in England & Wales to form a government, without someone else's help. If Scotland ever left the union, then they'd have no natural allies in Parliament, game over.

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Re: General Election 2019

Post by lo36789 » Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:32 pm

Pretty sad right gloating / willing a situation where government has no meaningful opposition.

I highly doubt labour will win this election but the gap is surely opening up for a centre left party as it did in 1997? It is almost the natural order when the tories shift right.

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Re: General Election 2019

Post by Darlo_Pete » Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:56 pm

lo36789 wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:32 pm
Pretty sad right gloating / willing a situation where government has no meaningful opposition.

I highly doubt labour will win this election but the gap is surely opening up for a centre left party as it did in 1997? It is almost the natural order when the tories shift right.
I agree there should be an effective opposition, but the Lib Dems have it looks like not made any headway & if you believe the polls, they'll lose ground or at best gain the odd seat.

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Re: General Election 2019

Post by Fatty eats roadkill » Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:32 pm

Vote Labour or you will forever have a Tory government.
Page 48 of their manifesto spells it out.
Waiting for Raj to shaft them!

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Re: General Election 2019

Post by EDJOHNS » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:44 am

Fatty eats roadkill wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:32 pm
Vote Labour or you will forever have a Tory government.
Page 48 of their manifesto spells it out.
Vote labour and they will bankrupt the country, yet again, and quicker than ever before.

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Re: General Election 2019

Post by loan_star » Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:27 pm

EDJOHNS wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:44 am
Fatty eats roadkill wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:32 pm
Vote Labour or you will forever have a Tory government.
Page 48 of their manifesto spells it out.
Vote labour and they will bankrupt the country, yet again, and quicker than ever before.
And the tories will get back in AGAIN and we will have austerity AGAIN and they'll get the blame AGAIN!

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Re: General Election 2019

Post by Henley » Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:52 pm

The thing is, even if the Tories win, I’ll still be depressed about the number of people who voted for Corbyn.

It’s like when everyone votes for what to eat and a Curry wins, but you can’t enjoy it because you know the second most popular meal was you.

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Re: General Election 2019

Post by Darlo_Pete » Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:39 pm

I've been working in one of the local constituencies & from what I witnessed the seat will be turning Tory.

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Re: General Election 2019

Post by EDJOHNS » Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:04 pm

loan_star wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:27 pm
EDJOHNS wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:44 am
Fatty eats roadkill wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:32 pm
Vote Labour or you will forever have a Tory government.
Page 48 of their manifesto spells it out.
Vote labour and they will bankrupt the country, yet again, and quicker than ever before.
And the tories will get back in AGAIN and we will have austerity AGAIN and they'll get the blame AGAIN!
The Tories are and were getting back no matter what. Even staunch lifelong Labour voters don't want Corbyn.

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Re: General Election 2019

Post by Darlo_Pete » Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:53 pm

I met a guy today whilst I was working on the election & he has been a lifelong agent for labour. He voted today for the Conservatives, as he hates Corbyn & what he stands for. he also thought Labour had betrayed the electorate by not honouring the referendum, which labour had promised to honour the outcome. Now if a bloke who has served the labour party his whole life & now turns the back on them, it means the writing is on the wall for labour & especially for Corbyn & his cronies.

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Re: General Election 2019

Post by OHDFC » Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:59 pm

Darlo_Pete wrote:I've been working in one of the local constituencies & from what I witnessed the seat will be turning Tory.
So what did you witness? As far as I am aware the vote is between the voter and her ballot paper. So what were you witnessing?

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Re: General Election 2019

Post by Darlo_Pete » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:06 pm

I was working outside a polling station & the bloke was pleased to tell me how he had voted. I wasn't work for any political party.

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Re: General Election 2019

Post by OHDFC » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:10 pm

So one bloke tols you how he voted?

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Re: General Election 2019

Post by AndyPark » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:15 pm

Made my vote today.

Sticking with Labour despite no confidence in Jenny Chapman.

Can’t bear the idea of Boris remaining in charge.

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Re: General Election 2019

Post by Darlo_Pete » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:43 pm

OHDFC wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:10 pm
So one bloke tols you how he voted?

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It isn't just one bloke though is it? he's been a lifelong supporter of Labour & he's worked for them for many years. For a person like him to turn his back on the party he has worked for & supported shouldn't be ignored.

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Re: General Election 2019

Post by OHDFC » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:56 pm

Sorry you're right. It's one bloke who claims to have been a life long Labour voter. How do you know he is who you claim he is?

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Re: General Election 2019

Post by Darlo_Pete » Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:02 pm

Because a woman was passing by at the time & on her way back out of the polling station, she said that she couldn't believe he had turned his back on Labour, after serving them for so many years.

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Re: General Election 2019

Post by OHDFC » Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:11 pm

So how did she know? And why did she tell you her opinion?
You're making this up aren't you?

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Re: General Election 2019

Post by Henley » Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:25 pm

🥳 🎉

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Re: General Election 2019

Post by Darlo_Pete » Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:28 pm

OHDFC wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:11 pm
So how did she know? And why did she tell you her opinion?
You're making this up aren't you?

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Not at all, she knew him, they said hello & how are you as they passed each other.

Wow this is a seismic event if the exit poll, is anywhere near correct. Bye bye Jenny Chapman, :lol: :lol: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Re: General Election 2019

Post by Fat josh » Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:49 pm

Fat josh wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:10 pm
Darlo_Pete wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:54 pm
Talked to my 3 sons, oldest 25 & voted Conservative, middle lad voted Labour & youngest lad 19 who has never voted & they are all voting for the Conservatives. They all think Labour's policy on Brexit is bonkers & Labour's idea to nationalise everything is crazy. Labour are in big big trouble.
Labour are a disgrace... Jenny Chapman is a anti democratic joke... She will be out of a job 13th December....
Darlington voted to leave and she is determined to stop that.
Boris wins
Labour will lose every leave constituency
Treasonous Lib Dems will do nowt as usual
Gonna love watching all the remoaner and so called peoples vote scum crying when we leave...
Well well well..... Looks like I was mostly right
Gonna love the so called people's votes tears tonight
Democracy wins

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Re: General Election 2019

Post by Darlo_Pete » Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:52 pm

Will remainers ask for another election, as people didn't know the facts???????

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Re: General Election 2019

Post by Darlo_Pete » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:24 pm

Spoke to a lecturer from Durham University & he reckons that thousands of students have registered over the last few weeks & they are all intending to vote Conservative. So even Durham City that has had a massive majority for Labour, may get very close to changing to Conservative. To think that Blyth Valley is having a recount is almost impossible to believe.

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Re: General Election 2019

Post by DarloOnTheUp » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:44 pm

Henley wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:52 pm
I’ll still be depressed about the number of people who voted for Corbyn.
Agreed.

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Re: General Election 2019

Post by The_Ozzman_Cometh » Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:06 am

Blyth Valley has gone to the Conservatives.
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