3 Darlington thugs to appear in court...
-
- Posts: 753
- Joined: Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:58 pm
- Team Supported: Darlington
3 Darlington thugs to appear in court...
tomorrow in Manchester, just heard off a friend don't want to say names though.
- HarrytheQuaker
- Posts: 3148
- Joined: Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:57 pm
- Team Supported: Darlington
3 Darlington thugs to appear in court...
For what??? No Darlo fans did anything wrong
Last edited by HarrytheQuaker on Tue Sep 06, 2016 8:58 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: 3 Darlington thugs to appear in court...
if your source is correct, then their names will be made public anywaynotgnilrad wrote:tomorrow in Manchester, just heard off a friend don't want to say names though.
-
- Posts: 6012
- Joined: Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:41 pm
- Team Supported: Darlington
Re: 3 Darlington thugs to appear in court...
If it's the FC United game the one or two did by all accounts.HarrytheQuaker wrote:For what??? No Darlo fan did anything wrong
I guess it will make the paper sooner or later.
Re: 3 Darlington thugs to appear in court...
possible banning orders may happen here if the post is correct.
Re: 3 Darlington thugs to appear in court...
The post is correct there was trouble away from the ground three from Darlington were arrested, hopefully they get what they deserve and their mugshots are plastered across the Echo.
-
- Posts: 14124
- Joined: Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:13 pm
- Team Supported: Darlington
Re: 3 Darlington thugs to appear in court...
If they are found guilty, then I'm sure the club will putting banning orders on them. Hopefully tough action now, will make others think before they do something similar.
-
- Posts: 265
- Joined: Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:08 am
- Team Supported: Mighty Darlo
Re: 3 Darlington thugs to appear in court...
At what level does Court enforced national/international football banning orders kick in, Step 1 or 2?
Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
-
- Posts: 1260
- Joined: Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:40 pm
- Team Supported: Darlington
Re: 3 Darlington thugs to appear in court...
It may need a DFSG membership vote on banning anyone convicted, however I suppose the DFC board can already decide on the fans' behalf.murtonquaker wrote:At what level does Court enforced national/international football banning orders kick in, Step 1 or 2?
Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
Re: 3 Darlington thugs to appear in court...
Neil Johnson wrote:It may need a DFSG membership vote on banning anyone convicted, however I suppose the DFC board can already decide on the fans' behalf.murtonquaker wrote:At what level does Court enforced national/international football banning orders kick in, Step 1 or 2?
Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
On Sunday April 29, 2012 at 10:25 pm, Darlo Cockney wrote:Sadly some people have nothing better to do that invent rumours.
We will be playing at the arena again next season - fact.
Quakerz - if you actually attended games and spoke to people you might actually find our facts, rather than spreading s*** on this board.
DC
Re: 3 Darlington thugs to appear in court...
Banning orders cover matches in the National League North/ South and abovemurtonquaker wrote:At what level does Court enforced national/international football banning orders kick in, Step 1 or 2?
Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
-
- Posts: 12155
- Joined: Sat Jul 25, 2009 3:08 pm
- Team Supported: Darlington
- Location: Darlington
Re: 3 Darlington thugs to appear in court...
I thought the sameSpyman wrote:Neil Johnson wrote:It may need a DFSG membership vote on banning anyone convicted, however I suppose the DFC board can already decide on the fans' behalf.murtonquaker wrote:At what level does Court enforced national/international football banning orders kick in, Step 1 or 2?
Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
Re: 3 Darlington thugs to appear in court...
Gift that keeps giving.Neil Johnson wrote:It may need a DFSG membership vote on banning anyone convicted, however I suppose the DFC board can already decide on the fans' behalf.murtonquaker wrote:At what level does Court enforced national/international football banning orders kick in, Step 1 or 2?
Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
For you to insult me, I must first value your opinion.
-
- Posts: 753
- Joined: Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:58 pm
- Team Supported: Darlington
Re: 3 Darlington thugs to appear in court...
Court date for these guys have been put back to next week now. Wish it was today as they would have been named and shamed.
Re: 3 Darlington thugs to appear in court...
From Conference North upwards banning orders can be given even without conviction if magistrates, upon application by police, believe that such an order may prevent disorder. Section 14b Football Spectaors Act 1989 (as amended), or 14a with conviction.
-
- Posts: 858
- Joined: Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:13 am
- Team Supported: Darlo
- Location: Scotland
3 Darlington thugs to appear in court...
As far as I know, as the game is on private property we can individually ban anyone we like and can advise our opponents in away games to ban the same people. This could be done at any level.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Now is not the time to cry
Now’s the time to find out why
I think you’re the same as me
We’ll see things they’ll never see
Darlo’s going to live forever!
Now’s the time to find out why
I think you’re the same as me
We’ll see things they’ll never see
Darlo’s going to live forever!
Re: 3 Darlington thugs to appear in court...
See one of the scroats was at tonight's game , threatening our own fans who he thought were responsible for pointing him out ...knob head will be getting pointed out alright at the next game he shows his scrawny face at .
-
- Posts: 1413
- Joined: Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:10 pm
- Team Supported: Darlington
Re: 3 Darlington thugs to appear in court...
Nothing to stop them being named now so long as nothing is published that prejudices the court case.notgnilrad wrote:Court date for these guys have been put back to next week now. Wish it was today as they would have been named and shamed.
-
- Posts: 1260
- Joined: Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:40 pm
- Team Supported: Darlington
Re: 3 Darlington thugs to appear in court...
As pubs can bar anyone, so can DFC at their ground.
Away bans would need a National banning order, where those ignoring a ban can be registered on fan camera phones. and sent back to court by DFC and the police.
Is that too simple?
Away bans would need a National banning order, where those ignoring a ban can be registered on fan camera phones. and sent back to court by DFC and the police.
Is that too simple?
-
- Posts: 6025
- Joined: Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:47 am
- Team Supported: Darlington
Re: 3 Darlington thugs to appear in court...
You're too simple. Everyone's said this for the months and years you've been cluttering up this board with your verbal garbage.Neil Johnson wrote:As pubs can bar anyone, so can DFC at their ground.
Away bans would need a National banning order, where those ignoring a ban can be registered on fan camera phones. and sent back to court by DFC and the police.
Is that too simple?
A couple of things - firstly pubs can't bar anyone, nor can DFC. There has to be a justification. Otherwise we end up in the situation we were in with George Reynolds, where he tried to censor anyone who criticised him.
Secondly, banning orders need to be enforced. That's more difficult for a part-time, volunteer run club. That's why we've been plagued with a minority hooligan element at some of our away games.
It's not an excuse (and I think the club could have done more in the past), but there are clearly challenges we face that a full time professional club will not.
But your idea, that enforcement of a ban relies solely on fans taking pictures at games, is way too simplistic.
The point is steps should be taken to stop these fans getting into the ground in the first place (distributing names and pictures of banned supporters to home clubs/ police etc).
Re: 3 Darlington thugs to appear in court...
DFC can bar whoever they want for any reason they want. It is a private club and they can deny admission if they choose to. Yes we don't want to go down the Reynolds route but if someone is due in court for offences relating to their support of DFC then the club have every right to deny admission.Darlogramps wrote: A couple of things - firstly pubs can't bar anyone, nor can DFC. There has to be a justification. Otherwise we end up in the situation we were in with George Reynolds, where he tried to censor anyone who criticised him.
Re: 3 Darlington thugs to appear in court...
fuckn knob end darlogramps again. knows it all.cant wait to tap you on the shoulder only a matter of time sir lets see what you have to say face to face!!
Re: 3 Darlington thugs to appear in court...
Enjoy your court appearance.darlodaz wrote:fuckn knob end darlogramps again. knows it all.cant wait to tap you on the shoulder only a matter of time sir lets see what you have to say face to face!!
-
- Posts: 6025
- Joined: Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:47 am
- Team Supported: Darlington
Re: 3 Darlington thugs to appear in court...
Keep up your obsession boyo. It is very weird, but each to their own.darlodaz wrote:fuckn knob end darlogramps again. knows it all.cant wait to tap you on the shoulder only a matter of time sir lets see what you have to say face to face!!
Last edited by Darlogramps on Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:00 pm, edited 2 times in total.
-
- Posts: 6025
- Joined: Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:47 am
- Team Supported: Darlington
Re: 3 Darlington thugs to appear in court...
There's always a pedant. The point I was making is that there must be a sufficient reason to ban an individual, otherwise there could be recourse from those who've had action taken against them.loan_star wrote:DFC can bar whoever they want for any reason they want. It is a private club and they can deny admission if they choose to. Yes we don't want to go down the Reynolds route but if someone is due in court for offences relating to their support of DFC then the club have every right to deny admission.Darlogramps wrote: A couple of things - firstly pubs can't bar anyone, nor can DFC. There has to be a justification. Otherwise we end up in the situation we were in with George Reynolds, where he tried to censor anyone who criticised him.
Obviously if a "supporter" has committed an offence, that is sufficient justification for a ban.
But the more general point, that a club can ban who it likes for what it likes, is far too simplistic.
Re: 3 Darlington thugs to appear in court...
As has been said already a club or pub can bar anyone simply because they want to.Darlogramps wrote:There's always a pedant. The point I was making is that there must be a sufficient reason to ban an individual, otherwise there could be recourse from those who've had action taken against them.loan_star wrote:DFC can bar whoever they want for any reason they want. It is a private club and they can deny admission if they choose to. Yes we don't want to go down the Reynolds route but if someone is due in court for offences relating to their support of DFC then the club have every right to deny admission.Darlogramps wrote: A couple of things - firstly pubs can't bar anyone, nor can DFC. There has to be a justification. Otherwise we end up in the situation we were in with George Reynolds, where he tried to censor anyone who criticised him.
Obviously if a "supporter" has committed an offence, that is sufficient justification for a ban.
But the more general point, that a club can ban who it likes for what it likes, is far too simplistic.
No one has any right to enter a pub or football ground.
The owner of pub or football club needs no reason to ban someone
-
- Posts: 6025
- Joined: Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:47 am
- Team Supported: Darlington
Re: 3 Darlington thugs to appear in court...
Spen666 in being deliberately obtuse shocker.spen666 wrote:As has been said already a club or pub can bar anyone simply because they want to.Darlogramps wrote:There's always a pedant. The point I was making is that there must be a sufficient reason to ban an individual, otherwise there could be recourse from those who've had action taken against them.loan_star wrote:DFC can bar whoever they want for any reason they want. It is a private club and they can deny admission if they choose to. Yes we don't want to go down the Reynolds route but if someone is due in court for offences relating to their support of DFC then the club have every right to deny admission.Darlogramps wrote: A couple of things - firstly pubs can't bar anyone, nor can DFC. There has to be a justification. Otherwise we end up in the situation we were in with George Reynolds, where he tried to censor anyone who criticised him.
Obviously if a "supporter" has committed an offence, that is sufficient justification for a ban.
But the more general point, that a club can ban who it likes for what it likes, is far too simplistic.
No one has any right to enter a pub or football ground.
The owner of pub or football club needs no reason to ban someone
Re: 3 Darlington thugs to appear in court...
The fact is Spen is correct.Darlogramps wrote:Spen666 in being deliberately obtuse shocker.spen666 wrote:As has been said already a club or pub can bar anyone simply because they want to.Darlogramps wrote:There's always a pedant. The point I was making is that there must be a sufficient reason to ban an individual, otherwise there could be recourse from those who've had action taken against them.loan_star wrote:DFC can bar whoever they want for any reason they want. It is a private club and they can deny admission if they choose to. Yes we don't want to go down the Reynolds route but if someone is due in court for offences relating to their support of DFC then the club have every right to deny admission.Darlogramps wrote: A couple of things - firstly pubs can't bar anyone, nor can DFC. There has to be a justification. Otherwise we end up in the situation we were in with George Reynolds, where he tried to censor anyone who criticised him.
Obviously if a "supporter" has committed an offence, that is sufficient justification for a ban.
But the more general point, that a club can ban who it likes for what it likes, is far too simplistic.
No one has any right to enter a pub or football ground.
The owner of pub or football club needs no reason to ban someone
-
- Posts: 6025
- Joined: Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:47 am
- Team Supported: Darlington
Re: 3 Darlington thugs to appear in court...
No he's not.
It's a reductionist argument which ignores other factors (recourse from individuals involved, reputational damage) that mean it simply couldn't happen in the real world.
It's a shame you've decided to follow a worthless troll like Spen and deliberately ignore the points I'm making.
It's a reductionist argument which ignores other factors (recourse from individuals involved, reputational damage) that mean it simply couldn't happen in the real world.
It's a shame you've decided to follow a worthless troll like Spen and deliberately ignore the points I'm making.
Re: 3 Darlington thugs to appear in court...
Sadly Gramps it is the legally correct answer. You are wrong in law.Darlogramps wrote:No he's not.
It's a reductionist argument which ignores other factors (recourse from individuals involved, reputational damage) that mean it simply couldn't happen in the real world.
It's a shame you've decided to follow a worthless troll like Spen and deliberately ignore the points I'm making.
Accept the facts.
You may have the moral high ground d but not the legal high ground.
Try looking up the law and deal with facts rather than resort to the use of abuse.
If you think stating what the law actually is, is abuse or trolling, then it says more about you than me.