Wouldn't want to give him a poor tip.divas wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:16 pmDriving a black cab in Londonbiccynana wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:42 amWhat's John Sitton doing these days?
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Neil aspin is not the best person for the role.
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I think Swailes would be making too big of a jump at the minute, we need a bit more experience as we have found out this season. Alun Armstrong will 100% have his eyes on a job in the league above and deservedly so for the great job he has done. I would try and get somebody like ex Mansfield Town manager Paul Cox... we need a manager who knows how to get teams promoted by any means possible. There isn't many names on that poll list that would get me excited.
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Paul Cox isn't a bad shout actually, although his last spell at Guiseley was about as disastrous as it gets. Not been seen since.ScottBoyT wrote:I think Swailes would be making too big of a jump at the minute, we need a bit more experience as we have found out this season. Alun Armstrong will 100% have his eyes on a job in the league above and deservedly so for the great job he has done. I would try and get somebody like ex Mansfield Town manager Paul Cox... we need a manager who knows how to get teams promoted by any means possible. There isn't many names on that poll list that would get me excited.
I also don't think it's a case of us needing promotion by any means. Off-the-field, we're nowhere near ready to go up.
For me what we need is someone who knows how to win games and get a bit of positivity and excitement around the place. Someone who can set us up well tactically and with a clear idea of what they want from us.
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It is scary to read this of Cox.....
"All told, Cox claimed just 17 from a possible 72 points available in his time at the Guiseley helm, with his mass overhaul of the squad, which has seen a host of existing players jettisoned and a plethora of new signings brought in, failing to yield a renaissance."
Although to be fair to him he had done some good things before that ill-fated stint.
"All told, Cox claimed just 17 from a possible 72 points available in his time at the Guiseley helm, with his mass overhaul of the squad, which has seen a host of existing players jettisoned and a plethora of new signings brought in, failing to yield a renaissance."
Although to be fair to him he had done some good things before that ill-fated stint.
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I wasn't aware about the Guiseley spell, 17 points from 72 isn't great. Wikipedia brings up these stats for him.LoidLucan wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:34 amIt is scary to read this of Cox.....
"All told, Cox claimed just 17 from a possible 72 points available in his time at the Guiseley helm, with his mass overhaul of the squad, which has seen a host of existing players jettisoned and a plethora of new signings brought in, failing to yield a renaissance."
Although to be fair to him he had done some good things before that ill-fated stint.
---------------------P W D L Win %
Mansfield Town 176 78 46 52 44.3
Torquay United 10 02 04 04 20.0
Barrow ---------- 86 37 30 19 43.0
Guiseley ---------29 04 10 15 13.8
-----------Total 301 121 90 90 40.2
Such a crucial decision for the board, I hope they spend the next week doing some homework on potential candidates. We don't want to leave it too late as players will already be speaking to new clubs for next season.
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Given the closing date for the position is next Monday I expect the club will get a move on. It’s likely any interviews will take place next week with an appointment by the middle of the following week all being well. Hopefully this time we’ll just get an appointment without any potential candidate’s current clubs releasing statements beforehand.
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It would also be nice for our preferred candidate to accept the job, without a last minute change of mind.
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...and for them to know the difference between a formal interview and an informal meeting
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Good job Lincoln didn't feel the same about the Cowleys.Darlofan97 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 1:32 pmWhat’s the fascination with Swailes?
Granted he has done well with Dunston this season, and had a very good cup run, but there is a gulf in quality between the Northern League & Conference North. It would be a risk, especially if the likes of Armstrong, Aspin, Bower & Flanagan are interested.
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The Cowleys were already in the National League with Braintree when they made the switch. They didnt jump 2 divisions, fresh from a home for tea league to a league that is virtually national.HarryCharltonsCat wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:46 amGood job Lincoln didn't feel the same about the Cowleys.Darlofan97 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 1:32 pmWhat’s the fascination with Swailes?
Granted he has done well with Dunston this season, and had a very good cup run, but there is a gulf in quality between the Northern League & Conference North. It would be a risk, especially if the likes of Armstrong, Aspin, Bower & Flanagan are interested.
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Ah, my mistake. Still, 2 whole leagues. Surely the principles he has successfully applied at Dunston are transferable to a higher league team? We bang on about utilising the NL more for young upcoming players, yet I would think the gulf in quality is less relevant to a manager than a player.
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Hebburn Town have just reluctantly accepted the resignation of manager Scott Oliver.
Guided Hebburn to 2nd behind Dunston this season after winning promotion last year with Hebburn, and 5th round of F.A.Vase.
If Chris Swailes of Dunston is favourite in this poll,why not Oliver.
Guided Hebburn to 2nd behind Dunston this season after winning promotion last year with Hebburn, and 5th round of F.A.Vase.
If Chris Swailes of Dunston is favourite in this poll,why not Oliver.
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Rumours that MG is taking over them.banktopp wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:06 pmHebburn Town have just reluctantly accepted the resignation of manager Scott Oliver.
Guided Hebburn to 2nd behind Dunston this season after winning promotion last year with Hebburn, and 5th round of F.A.Vase.
If Chris Swailes of Dunston is favourite in this poll,why not Oliver.
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I have to be honest and say that I haven't a clue who half of these people are.
I'm also very wary of appointing a Northern League Manager. Whatever their success at that level, there is every chance we would be promoting them beyond their abilities.
I'm also very wary of appointing a Northern League Manager. Whatever their success at that level, there is every chance we would be promoting them beyond their abilities.
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2 whole leagues? They went from National League side Braintree to National League side Lincoln. They moved across to a side in the same division, having had a proven track record by finishing 3rd & in the play-offs with Braintree.HarryCharltonsCat wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:44 pmAh, my mistake. Still, 2 whole leagues. Surely the principles he has successfully applied at Dunston are transferable to a higher league team? We bang on about utilising the NL more for young upcoming players, yet I would think the gulf in quality is less relevant to a manager than a player.
Even before Braintree they moved up from the National League South to the National League.
Swailes would be a massive risk, it would be a jump of 3 divisions for him. It’s a different standard all-together, surely we would know that more than anyone having recently progressed up these divisions over the past 5/6 years. The Northern League was a poor standard despite the locals being adamant about how good of a standard it was and how it was on par with the NPL.
We need someone with knowledge of this league.
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I’m shocked that Alan White has got 5 votes!
Surely part of the problem rather than the solution? A team who couldn’t defend for s##t all season
Surely part of the problem rather than the solution? A team who couldn’t defend for s##t all season
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A lot of names that most won't know anything about but still someone will vote for them. Its just the way it is.
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I voted for him...natural leader, FL/local contacts, great defender, strong links to town and club, good work done with Academy. I’d also say that a) we don’t know how much input he had re signings/tactics etc and b) most goals conceded last term stemmed from our midfield not tracking back and an absence of players ‘defending from the front’ rather than defensive howlers. He’d also be cheaper than other potential candidates??
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I'd argue that our full backs being caught out of position quite a lot caused a few too though.grimsbyquaker wrote:I voted for him...natural leader, FL/local contacts, great defender, strong links to town and club, good work done with Academy. I’d also say that a) we don’t know how much input he had re signings/tactics etc and b) most goals conceded last term stemmed from our midfield not tracking back and an absence of players ‘defending from the front’ rather than defensive howlers. He’d also be cheaper than other potential candidates??
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I wasn''t stating they went up 2 whole league's. You misunderstood my point. I don't see why a manager can't be successful 2 (or 3) leagues higher.Darlofan97 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:58 pm2 whole leagues? They went from National League side Braintree to National League side Lincoln. They moved across to a side in the same division, having had a proven track record by finishing 3rd & in the play-offs with Braintree.HarryCharltonsCat wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:44 pmAh, my mistake. Still, 2 whole leagues. Surely the principles he has successfully applied at Dunston are transferable to a higher league team? We bang on about utilising the NL more for young upcoming players, yet I would think the gulf in quality is less relevant to a manager than a player.
Even before Braintree they moved up from the National League South to the National League.
Swailes would be a massive risk, it would be a jump of 3 divisions for him. It’s a different standard all-together, surely we would know that more than anyone having recently progressed up these divisions over the past 5/6 years. The Northern League was a poor standard despite the locals being adamant about how good of a standard it was and how it was on par with the NPL.
We need someone with knowledge of this league.
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Surely there’s plenty of managers who moved up a few leagues at a time and been a success, Brian Little had only been an assistant and academy manager prior to coming to us in the football league and he didn’t work out too badly..Darlofan97 wrote:2 whole leagues? They went from National League side Braintree to National League side Lincoln. They moved across to a side in the same division, having had a proven track record by finishing 3rd & in the play-offs with Braintree.HarryCharltonsCat wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:44 pmAh, my mistake. Still, 2 whole leagues. Surely the principles he has successfully applied at Dunston are transferable to a higher league team? We bang on about utilising the NL more for young upcoming players, yet I would think the gulf in quality is less relevant to a manager than a player.
Even before Braintree they moved up from the National League South to the National League.
Swailes would be a massive risk, it would be a jump of 3 divisions for him. It’s a different standard all-together, surely we would know that more than anyone having recently progressed up these divisions over the past 5/6 years. The Northern League was a poor standard despite the locals being adamant about how good of a standard it was and how it was on par with the NPL.
We need someone with knowledge of this league.
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Well of course, but realistically there are several managers we could bring in with much more experience of this level and a history of building solid teams and getting results.
Like I said, he would be a massive risk.
Like I said, he would be a massive risk.
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Yeah to be honest I’m not thinking of anyone in particular but I’m extremely open minded about the level they’ve been at before. I’d be just as interested in someone with the right attributes from within the North East non league scene as anyone who’s had some success but in another part of the country. I’m actually quite attracted to finding someone who can build a career with us over several years and then go on to the pro game. Whether they exist or not is another question...Darlofan97 wrote:Well of course, but realistically there are several managers we could bring in with much more experience of this level and a history of building solid teams and getting results.
Like I said, he would be a massive risk.
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He will leave once Tommy's successor is appointed; holding the fort at present.grimsbyquaker wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:10 pmI voted for him...natural leader, FL/local contacts, great defender, strong links to town and club, good work done with Academy. I’d also say that a) we don’t know how much input he had re signings/tactics etc and b) most goals conceded last term stemmed from our midfield not tracking back and an absence of players ‘defending from the front’ rather than defensive howlers. He’d also be cheaper than other potential candidates??
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Chris Wilder was a Sunday League manager at one point and Jose Mourinho was an interpreter. Chris Swales would do as good a job as anybody, as would Nick Gray and Carl Jarrett.
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I just love the huge spread of names by so few people, no rush to make an appointment and hopefully some ex FL players and coaches looking downwards for an opportunity as opposed lower league looking up. Also like the idea of a female coach not that I know many
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Why do you like the idea of a female coach?
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With all names listed so far the ones I would like most are:
Ben Clark- Did a good job with Gateshead especially under those circumstances and got the team to show a real togetherness, which I think was something that was missing from TW’s reign. I imagine that he could come to us too considering Gateshead’s situation at the moment and maybe a bit of a chat with Ian Watson could seal the deal.
Neil Apsin- Very experienced manager and plays sort of a defensive style which could suit us as we were pretty decent on the counter attack last season in my opinion. Will have contacts in northeast and further too
Alun Armstrong- Done great with Blyth on a low budget, yes he’s pretty much done an MG and complained about it but he might be satisfied with ours as it’s most likely a lot more than what Blyths is/was, also some of blyths players are out of contract like Maguire for example imagine a front 3 of Thompson, Nicholson and Maguire...
John Flanagan- Managed Curzon at this level for the last 3 or 4 years played some lovely football too, also will know what our weaknesses are and sort them as he always had our number when we played against his teams.
Paul Thirlwell- He’s the least I know about but I believe he’s highly regarded, been part of a successful Harrogate team and may want to prove himself as the Number 1 man now.
Ben Clark- Did a good job with Gateshead especially under those circumstances and got the team to show a real togetherness, which I think was something that was missing from TW’s reign. I imagine that he could come to us too considering Gateshead’s situation at the moment and maybe a bit of a chat with Ian Watson could seal the deal.
Neil Apsin- Very experienced manager and plays sort of a defensive style which could suit us as we were pretty decent on the counter attack last season in my opinion. Will have contacts in northeast and further too
Alun Armstrong- Done great with Blyth on a low budget, yes he’s pretty much done an MG and complained about it but he might be satisfied with ours as it’s most likely a lot more than what Blyths is/was, also some of blyths players are out of contract like Maguire for example imagine a front 3 of Thompson, Nicholson and Maguire...
John Flanagan- Managed Curzon at this level for the last 3 or 4 years played some lovely football too, also will know what our weaknesses are and sort them as he always had our number when we played against his teams.
Paul Thirlwell- He’s the least I know about but I believe he’s highly regarded, been part of a successful Harrogate team and may want to prove himself as the Number 1 man now.