New Strips Change

by Scott Thornberry - 2nd April 2010

new strips change

Darlington Football Club have revealed that they have had to change the design of next season home strip after finding out that the new strip, chosen by the fans, falls fall of non league rules as it apparenttely has too much black.

With the club coming to terms with the inevitable relegation to the blue sqaure premier, they have found out that a kit which has a lot of black in it could clash with the referees kit which in non league is black.  The club sent out this e-mail:

"Once again, thanks for helping us to choose the new kit for next season. Due to league regulations not permitting a predominantly black kit, we’ve had to change the design slightly to satisfy the Football Conference. It is the same design, but with a white panel instead of the black and we will also use white shorts and hooped socks as first choice."

"The sponsor, as you can see, is NOT on a patch and fits in with the design of the shirt nicely. I hope you like the altered design just as much! The final kit, being put into production is below and as voters of the design; you have first sight of this kit!"

 

 

The original design was the one below. The away strip stays the same

 

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moodymonica - 1st April 2010 10:34:40

Dunno if Damon was sending out an April Fools or not but just received this email saying that the strips have to change due to regulations in the BSP that predominant black aint allowed.....

Once again, thanks for helping us to choose the new kit for next season. Due to league regulations not permitting a predominantly black kit, we’ve had to change the design slightly to satisfy the Football Conference. It is the same design, but with a white panel instead of the black and we will also use white shorts and hooped socks as first choice. The sponsor, as you can see, is NOT on a patch and fits in with the design of the shirt nicely. I hope you like the altered design just as much! The final kit, being put into production is below and as voters of the design; you have first sight of this kit!

divas - 1st April 2010 10:43:03

ah well i imagine that will please some if thats the case

any chance of a picture? i did vote on the kit by text and include my email but i never get any updates sent by damon

Darlo_H - 1st April 2010 10:45:05

Got the same email which I presume is genuine.

I do hope it is an April Fools though as the replacement kit looks far worse than the original. Guess it's the away kit again for me next season.

karlodarlo - 1st April 2010 10:52:14

Yes i got the same email so it must be genuine if everyone has got it!
Personally i like the kit just as much.........it's still stripy on the front;and the back is now white instead of black.I'll definately be coughing for one in the summer......

wylam_rangers - 1st April 2010 10:52:46

Of course it's a wind-up!!

Forest Green Rovers play in B/W stripes & Black Shorts. :geek:

Spyman - 1st April 2010 10:53:31

Just got the same e-mail.

The black diagonal bit is now white - that seems to be about the only difference. Also, good to hear that the sponsor will not be a patch stuck on the front.

If it is an April fool, it's a pretty weak attempt.

Norm_D_Ploom - 1st April 2010 10:54:20

divas wrote:ah well i imagine that will please some if thats the case

any chance of a picture? i did vote on the kit by text and include my email but i never get any updates sent by damon
Was that aimed at me mate

Don't worry one day you will also be middle aged and stuck in your ways :lol:

Hilly - 1st April 2010 10:55:21

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wylam_rangers - 1st April 2010 11:00:21

Well done Damon, you convinced a few!

divas - 1st April 2010 11:04:04

Norm_D_Ploom wrote:
divas wrote:ah well i imagine that will please some if thats the case

any chance of a picture? i did vote on the kit by text and include my email but i never get any updates sent by damon
Was that aimed at me mate

Don't worry one day you will also be middle aged and stuck in your ways :lol:
haha i couldnt remember who'd shown a dislike to it off the top of my head, but i guess it was you! nowt wrong with not liking it, you're not forced too.

do you like the new one any better per chance? probably not just having looked at it, it looks worse, i hope it is an april fool ;)

Quakers1883 - 1st April 2010 11:05:53

Hilly wrote:Image
I actually prefer that one !

moodymonica - 1st April 2010 11:07:52

Just had an updated email from Damon (see below)
If it was a wind up he's keeping it going - Wylam whats your take on it then?
Wind up from Damon or not??


I just want to add that either way, League 2 or Football Conference, we had to have the kit approved by the football conference and the football league so we can start production now, in time for an early release! This season’s not over yet!

Damon

TeessideQuaker - 1st April 2010 11:09:11

It's not an April Fools by all accounts.

moodymonica - 1st April 2010 11:09:46

I didnt think it was TQ but Wylam seems quite sure it is - or is the joke now on him

wylam_rangers - 1st April 2010 11:12:06

moodymonica wrote:I didnt think it was TQ but Wylam seems quite sure it is - or is the joke now on him
Looks like my neck's on the line but I'll stick with the April fool. :o

Darlo_H - 1st April 2010 11:14:22

Tell you what, I'll email Damon and find out ;)

moodymonica - 1st April 2010 11:16:01

I already did just havent had a response yet (except for the update)

AndyPark - 1st April 2010 11:21:12

Is this the same email everyone else got?

Dear All,



Once again, thanks for helping us to choose the new kit for next season. Due to league regulations not permitting a predominantly black kit, we’ve had to change the design slightly to satisfy the Football Conference. It is the same design, but with a white panel instead of the black and we will also use white shorts and hooped socks as first choice. The sponsor, as you can see, is NOT on a patch and fits in with the design of the shirt nicely. I hope you like the altered design just as much! The final kit, being put into production is below and as voters of the design; you have first sight of this kit!

We also have decided on the date of the next fans’ night, which will be Tuesday 4th May. We will do the kit presentations, player of the year awards as well as serve food and some entertainment. Look out on www.darlington-fc.net for an official announcement and how you can get tickets.



And finally, with the new manager taking the hot seat today, and kids’ tickets for only £1 for the match on Easter Monday then what are you waiting for to come and support the Quakers? Hope to see you there on Monday!



Come on Darlo!

TeessideQuaker - 1st April 2010 11:21:58

No, he sends each e-mail individually Andy...

Darlo_H - 1st April 2010 11:23:56

FFS Andy. Everyone here has said they got the same email. Why would the one he sent to you be any different from anyone elses?

AndyPark - 1st April 2010 11:26:36

Well because I received 2 emails and I just wanted to clarify that this was the 1 you were all on about FFS.

wylam_rangers - 1st April 2010 11:27:37

Why would we change the shirt and the shorts to become predominately WHITE. There's now even less black than this season.

BTW Damon's 2nd email was sent at 11.57

April Fool :twisted:

Darlo_H - 1st April 2010 11:29:55

wylam_rangers wrote:Why would we change the shirt and the shorts to become predominately WHITE. There's now even less black than this season.

BTW Damon's 2nd email was sent at 11.57

April Fool :twisted:
No reply from the man himself yet. Just you wait....!

Norm_D_Ploom - 1st April 2010 11:34:43

divas wrote:
Norm_D_Ploom wrote:
divas wrote:ah well i imagine that will please some if thats the case

any chance of a picture? i did vote on the kit by text and include my email but i never get any updates sent by damon
Was that aimed at me mate

Don't worry one day you will also be middle aged and stuck in your ways :lol:
haha i couldnt remember who'd shown a dislike to it off the top of my head, but i guess it was you! nowt wrong with not liking it, you're not forced too.

do you like the new one any better per chance? probably not just having looked at it, it looks worse, i hope it is an april fool ;)
I do prefer the white panel to a black panel to be honest, although I would be happier with full hoops or a mainly white shirt, I actually quite like this seasons.

Having said that in the pcture on the top of the board the panel isn't as wide as it seems on the graphic, so I could have lived with it, 50 / 50 on white shorts mind, BIG :thumbup: for hooped socks though.

Hope its not a wind up

Hawkeye - 1st April 2010 13:17:29

The FA doesn't allow a predominantly black kit? Racist...

Spyman - 1st April 2010 13:30:47

Hawkeye wrote:The FA doesn't allow a predominantly black kit? Racist...
Also, what about the countless away kits that are all black?

Beano - 1st April 2010 14:45:14

Only clubs playing in the professional leagues (Football and Premier Leagues) are permitted to wear a predominantly black kit, by all accounts even then it cannot be the 'home' kit.

No teams at semi-pro (Conference Premier and below) and amateur levels can wear black as the colour is reserved for match officials. The panel was deemed to make the shirt predominantly black, unlike straight stripes or hoops which does not.

Spyman - 1st April 2010 15:12:57

Beano wrote:Only clubs playing in the professional leagues (Football and Premier Leagues) are permitted to wear a predominantly black kit, by all accounts even then it cannot be the 'home' kit.

No teams at semi-pro (Conference Premier and below) and amateur levels can wear black as the colour is reserved for match officials. The panel was deemed to make the shirt predominantly black, unlike straight stripes or hoops which does not.
So the fact that Damon's second e-mail says that the kit has been changed because it would need to be for both Conference AND Football League rules is bollocks?

On a side note, I've always thought black kits should be reserved for match officials only, and that clubs should be banned from having a black kit, home or away.

al_quaker - 1st April 2010 15:17:11

Spyman wrote: So the fact that Damon's second e-mail says that the kit has been changed because it would need to be for both Conference AND Football League rules is bollocks?
Probably got told off by someone who wants to make it sound like the club isn't 100% resigned to non league football next season! Unless of course it is a wind up...

I actually quite like it. Not as much as the original though

divas - 1st April 2010 15:20:34

Spyman wrote: So the fact that Damon's second e-mail says that the kit has been changed because it would need to be for both Conference AND Football League rules is bollocks?
i think what he meant was that by changing it, the shirt would be accepted in both league 2 or the BSP dependant on where we were next season - if we stayed up there'd be no need to change, but lets face it, thats very unlikely!

Damon - 1st April 2010 15:40:56

Not a wind up, it didn't even occur that it was April fool's day! The fun I could have had!

And yes if we stay up we could have the original, but it would be too late to put into production in time for a summer release so we need a kit that is approved by BOTH leagues.

I hope you like it!

Happy Easter and thanks for the emails and feedback!

See you all on Monday - kids for a quid!

divas - 1st April 2010 15:45:48

was there no chance of a black panel on the shorts at all, such as

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Notts_Quaker - 1st April 2010 15:57:18

I prefer it with the white actually.

:thumbup:

loan_star - 1st April 2010 16:20:34

To me it looks wrong now! Not as good as the original.

Norm_D_Ploom - 1st April 2010 17:02:09

loan_star wrote:To me it looks wrong now! Not as good as the original.
Sorry LS it looks much better now, you have been going as long as me and for most of that time we have worn white shirts.

Think Divas is right with the black panel on the shorts mind.

Darlo Fonz - 1st April 2010 19:27:43

Dont mind the top to be fair. But to put shorts like that with a top like that just really wont work for me :shock: The shorts let this new kit down

real_darlo_85 - 1st April 2010 19:30:31

Initially I think the strip doesn't look as sleek now, its like having half of the current kit plus hoops. :problem: The other option would be better, but who knows it may be a grower? :think:

wylam_rangers - 1st April 2010 19:40:06

So we've voted for an illegal kit. Hmm

Why can't we have a quick (one week vote) on the kits that Staunton rejected.

The reworked reversed shirt is crap and why can't we have black shorts. I refer you to Forest Green, Histon, etc

This does beggar belief when the ref tarts up the league all have designer kits in every colour imaginable.

No wonder football is in such a fooking mess (copyright Quakerz) when these sort of "rules" exist.

I presume Curtis Main is ok in yellow boots but traditional black boots will be banned.

Darlo Fonz - 1st April 2010 19:49:18

Great point wylam, it is utter ridiculuous this. The shirt will look okay :) but the shorts will just be crap

Beano - 1st April 2010 20:14:04

The rules do allow black shorts, but maybe Errea thought if the panel was white the shorts would need to be.

Black shorts would look better on the new design, in my opinion.

divas - 1st April 2010 20:27:05

the shorts are awful we need at least some black on them

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Darlo Fonz - 1st April 2010 20:28:49

I agreee Divas :thumbup: looks much better

real_darlo_85 - 1st April 2010 20:51:31

Yep Divas' design would be the best if we are losing the black off the shirt! :thumbup: I suggest the club puts that to the rule makers and see if thats ok because that design would rescue the design somewhat!

shawry - 2nd April 2010 00:12:31

Makes a bit of a mockery of the vote though doesnt it!

Hawkeye - 2nd April 2010 06:47:09

shawry_99 wrote:Makes a bit of a mockery of the vote though doesnt it!
Agreed. DAVEY OUT!!!

Norm_D_Ploom - 2nd April 2010 09:05:14

It looks beeter with the black shorts, it is not so bad with white shorts with the black panel, not so sure about plain white shorts but I wouldn't say it was awful.

We have played in white shorts before so I don't see what the problem is, in fact when I first started going we played in an all white kit.

shawry - 2nd April 2010 09:21:39

My problem isnt actually with the kit, I prefer the black, but Im not greatly fussed.

Its the fact we didnt think to get approval before, and they should do another prize draw, with everyones name in the hat, as no one voted for this kit.

Darlo Fonz - 2nd April 2010 09:23:54

All I'm going to say is that the shorts will not! Go with that top.

Beano - 2nd April 2010 09:40:07

shawry_99 wrote:My problem isnt actually with the kit, I prefer the black, but Im not greatly fussed.

Its the fact we didnt think to get approval before, and they should do another prize draw, with everyones name in the hat, as no one voted for this kit.
A complete and unnecessary over-reaction. 99% of clubs do not give fans the option or even reward them for participating.

The club clearly didn't know the Conference kit rules, hardly surprising considering the kits we've had in the past 10 years.

Quakers1883 - 2nd April 2010 09:58:31

The white shorts don't bother me one bit, imagine peoples reaction if we went back to wearing blue shorts with a black and white shirt just like we wore in the early part of our history.

shawry - 2nd April 2010 10:22:45

Beano wrote:
shawry_99 wrote:My problem isnt actually with the kit, I prefer the black, but Im not greatly fussed.

Its the fact we didnt think to get approval before, and they should do another prize draw, with everyones name in the hat, as no one voted for this kit.
A complete and unnecessary over-reaction. 99% of clubs do not give fans the option or even reward them for participating.

The club clearly didn't know the Conference kit rules, hardly surprising considering the kits we've had in the past 10 years.
Actually I disagree, The point isnt about the kit, its the fact that some people have got some very good prizes for picking a strip that essentially we arent using, yes the basic design is the same, but the change from black to white is actually quite a substantial one to the look of it.

How many people would of voted for that strip, if it was an option?

If we are going to offer a prize draw for picking a strip, then it should be a strip we can actually use. Basically, every single entry should of been in with a chance of winning, that way the strip is irrelevant, just the participation.

As for not knowing the conference rules, how long would it of taken to forward a copy of the strip for approval prior to running a competition at all?

Beano - 2nd April 2010 10:26:14

Unbelievable.

Why don't you just ask for the prize?

shawry - 2nd April 2010 10:28:29

Beano wrote:Unbelievable.

Why don't you just ask for the prize?
I dont want the prize, I didnt enter, because I wouldnt be able to make use of them at this time, and that includes the trip away.

Beano - 2nd April 2010 10:38:33

shawry_99 wrote:
Beano wrote:Unbelievable.

Why don't you just ask for the prize?
I dont want the prize, I didnt enter, because I wouldnt be able to make use of them at this time, and that includes the trip away.
Why are you complaining then?

shawry - 2nd April 2010 10:43:43

Because, such a big deal was made of the whole competition, the prizes, and us choosing the kit.

We limited the winner of the competition to people who voted for a kit we wouldnt be able to use.

We are trying to win back fans, and we are winning this battle imo, so even if the kit had been allowed, the winner really should of been chosen from all entries.

TBH, running an additional draw, based on all entries from the first competition (less the winners) now for a first prize of a season ticket, and both strips, and 2 runners up of a season ticket and a choice of home or away top would be my way forward.

Beano - 2nd April 2010 10:46:24

Why should the people who won the original draw, fair and square, be penalised?

The kit change has been forced by the Conference, not Errea, the club or the fans and it still the same kit template.

You are moaning for the sake of it.

shawry - 2nd April 2010 10:57:11

Beano wrote:Why should the people who won the original draw, fair and square, be penalised?

The kit change has been forced by the Conference, not Errea, the club or the fans and it still the same kit template.

You are moaning for the sake of it.
The original winners have still won, so they havent been penalised, my idea is because we have a strip that wasnt voted on that everyone else possibly may of voted for.

1Superlidds - 2nd April 2010 11:28:14

well i think its good that the club is so forward planning and positive....designing a kit to be used in our League 2 campaign for season 2011/12 :clap:

comeondarlo - 2nd April 2010 11:34:31

FFS This is a non issue in the great scheme of things!

I hate the hoops but it doesn't matter, you all sound like girls getting ready to go out on the piss!

Quakerz - 2nd April 2010 11:43:12

Hooped socks with a hooped top looks awful. The socks should be plain.

darloquaker - 2nd April 2010 12:15:47

Home B with white shorts would have been a better looker now Home A has a white panel, Away B would have looked nice even if it was blue/grey, blue/pale yellow or even blue/red

Darlo_H - 2nd April 2010 12:26:46

Another poll involving the new design and the previous Home B might have been a decent idea.

Just an email to those who've already voted to vote again based on the changes.

Norm_D_Ploom - 2nd April 2010 13:34:27

Quakerz wrote:Hooped socks with a hooped top looks awful. The socks should be plain.
Bollocks they should

darlo01 - 2nd April 2010 19:54:39

Bit early for this change of strip stuff, we might still manage to avoid relegation yet?

Darlo_H - 2nd April 2010 21:10:13

darlo01 wrote:Bit early for this change of strip stuff, we might still manage to avoid relegation yet?
That was sarcasm, right?

darlo01 - 3rd April 2010 14:06:00

Well spotted!

Darlo_H - 3rd April 2010 14:07:50

darlo01 wrote:Well spotted!
Thank Christ, you can never be sure on here...

wylam_rangers - 5th April 2010 10:59:32

Noticed we played in a new strip on Sat. White (home) shirts - ok, they play in yellow - but white shorts and plain white socks!!

grytters - 22nd May 2010 11:27:33

Are we getting similar goalies shirts to Brighton?

Aren't spiders brilliant!

Darlogoth - 22nd May 2010 17:22:11

well we could do with the extra legs lol :roll:

RUMPLESTILTSKIN - 22nd May 2010 20:47:57

wylam_rangers wrote:Of course it's a wind-up!!

Forest Green Rovers play in B/W stripes & Black Shorts. :geek:

Just to confirm.

http://www.forestgreenroversfc.com/matc ... ofiles.asp

If that aint predominantly black I don't know what is.

doc_64 - 22nd May 2010 21:47:21

RUMPLESTILTSKIN wrote:
wylam_rangers wrote:Of course it's a wind-up!!

Forest Green Rovers play in B/W stripes & Black Shorts. :geek:

Just to confirm.

http://www.forestgreenroversfc.com/matc ... ofiles.asp

If that aint predominantly black I don't know what is.


is that shola (from the jawdees) brother in the team

doc_64 - 22nd May 2010 21:49:08

grytters wrote:Are we getting similar goalies shirts to Brighton?

Aren't spiders brilliant!

the red 1 looks better than the green imo

Darlo_H - 22nd May 2010 22:11:10

doc_64 wrote:
is that shola (from the jawdees) brother in the team
Yep, usually just called Tomi.

Oh, and before anyone suggests it, he's fooking shyte.

wylam_rangers - 23rd May 2010 18:03:51

RUMPLESTILTSKIN wrote:
wylam_rangers wrote:Of course it's a wind-up!!

Forest Green Rovers play in B/W stripes & Black Shorts. :geek:

Just to confirm.

http://www.forestgreenroversfc.com/matc ... ofiles.asp

If that aint predominantly black I don't know what is.
Exactly the point I tried to make at the time

loan_star - 23rd May 2010 18:50:33

Theres a difference to black & white stripes and having a solid black back to a top. Thats probably what they wont allow.