Bradfud

[fozzovmurton]

But hasn't Cardiff been told on more than one occasion if they win an English Cup, UEFA would find a place for them.

If the FA are that unwilling to let Welsh teams represent England in Europe, then why let them play in the League in the first place

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Yes UEFA have said things similar to this. This is why I believe that The FA are on a collision course with UEFA!

The decision to play in an English league competition was Swansea's and Cardiff's.
And they made this decision fully aware of the consequences. So basically. they have no argument.

I know the choice is down to individual clubs, they probably had no other choice, the LoW is not really a viable alternative, I dont see the FAs problem with Welsh Teams qualifying, it would not exactly be unprecedented, a team from a country representing another country in Europe, Derry City play in the Republic of Ireland, not the North, although the circumstances for that are quite different I admit, but the precedent is there.

I just think the FA are just being arses about the whole thing

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[Fibonacci0112358]

But hasn't Cardiff been told on more than one occasion if they win an English Cup, UEFA would find a place for them.

If the FA are that unwilling to let Welsh teams represent England in Europe, then why let them play in the League in the first place

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Yes UEFA have said things similar to this. This is why I believe that The FA are on a collision course with UEFA!

The decision to play in an English league competition was Swansea's and Cardiff's.
And they made this decision fully aware of the consequences. So basically. they have no argument.

I know the choice is down to individual clubs, they probably had no other choice, the LoW is not really a viable alternative, I dont see the FAs problem with Welsh Teams qualifying, it would not exactly be unprecedented, a team from a country representing another country in Europe, Derry City play in the Republic of Ireland, not the North, although the circumstances for that are quite different I admit, but the precedent is there.

I just think the FA are just being arses about the whole thing

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Yes, The FA are being arses about the whole thing!

How completely out of character of them.


Of course the FAW are equally at fault for not allowing those welsh teams that play in England to play in the welsh cup.

[Spyman]

But hasn't Cardiff been told on more than one occasion if they win an English Cup, UEFA would find a place for them.

If the FA are that unwilling to let Welsh teams represent England in Europe, then why let them play in the League in the first place

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Yes UEFA have said things similar to this. This is why I believe that The FA are on a collision course with UEFA!

The decision to play in an English league competition was Swansea's and Cardiff's.
And they made this decision fully aware of the consequences. So basically. they have no argument.

I know the choice is down to individual clubs, they probably had no other choice, the LoW is not really a viable alternative, I dont see the FAs problem with Welsh Teams qualifying, it would not exactly be unprecedented, a team from a country representing another country in Europe, Derry City play in the Republic of Ireland, not the North, although the circumstances for that are quite different I admit, but the precedent is there.

I just think the FA are just being arses about the whole thing

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Yes, The FA are being arses about the whole thing!

How completely out of character of them.


Of course the FAW are equally at fault for not allowing those welsh teams that play in England to play in the welsh cup.

The FAW actually wanted to give the Welsh clubs this opportunity, but UEFA ruled it out.

[fozzovmurton]

But hasn't Cardiff been told on more than one occasion if they win an English Cup, UEFA would find a place for them.

If the FA are that unwilling to let Welsh teams represent England in Europe, then why let them play in the League in the first place

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Yes UEFA have said things similar to this. This is why I believe that The FA are on a collision course with UEFA!

The decision to play in an English league competition was Swansea's and Cardiff's.
And they made this decision fully aware of the consequences. So basically. they have no argument.

I know the choice is down to individual clubs, they probably had no other choice, the LoW is not really a viable alternative, I dont see the FAs problem with Welsh Teams qualifying, it would not exactly be unprecedented, a team from a country representing another country in Europe, Derry City play in the Republic of Ireland, not the North, although the circumstances for that are quite different I admit, but the precedent is there.

I just think the FA are just being arses about the whole thing

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Yes, The FA are being arses about the whole thing!

How completely out of character of them.


Of course the FAW are equally at fault for not allowing those welsh teams that play in England to play in the welsh cup.

The FAW actually wanted to give the Welsh clubs this opportunity, but UEFA ruled it out.

Another set of wankers and arses, The FA, UEFA and FIFA are a bunch of clowns

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[Spyman]

The FAW actually wanted to give the Welsh clubs this opportunity, but UEFA ruled it out.

Another set of wankers and arses, The FA, UEFA and FIFA are a bunch of clowns

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I wouldn't blame UEFA on this one. They are happy for the Welsh sides to play in Europe, representing the league they are part of - that seems fair enough to me. If Swansea and Cardiff play in the English League, I don't see why they should be allowed to enter the Welsh Cup just to give themselves a better chance of playing in European competition. They can't have their cake and eat it.

While I'd prefer to see English clubs in the English League, and representing England in Europe, if the FA are letting Swansea et al be part of the English League then they should be offered the same rights as any English club.

[fozzovmurton]

Couldn't agree more Spyman, they all there history in the English System and should therefore be seen as an English Team in all but name and country.

Interestingly a few years the so called 6 'exile' clubs(Cardiff, Swansea, Wrexham, Merthyr Tydfil, Newport County and Colwyn Bay) were offered a spot in the Welsh Cup, only Merthyr, Newport and Wrexham took up the chance, but they were told by UEFA that they would not be allowed to qualify for Europe from the Welsh Cup, which led the FAW to expel the Wrexham, Newport and Merthyr

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[lo36789]

Can I go back to the view that if Bradford in the League Cup they won't be given a UEFA Cup spot? It would be an absolute disgrace to take that opportunity from them and can't see anybody in this country accepting that.

I somehow don't believe the claim we had the biggest catchment area in the FL either whoever said that the population of Bristol is 428,000 and neither Bristol club has been in the Premier League.

[Fibonacci0112358]

Can I go back to the view that if Bradford in the League Cup they won't be given a UEFA Cup spot? It would be an absolute disgrace to take that opportunity from them and can't see anybody in this country accepting that.

I somehow don't believe the claim we had the biggest catchment area in the FL either whoever said that the population of Bristol is 428,000 and neither Bristol club has been in the Premier League.

Not the Premier League, but League Division 1 for City in the '80's. Which is the same level.

[lo36789]

Irrespective I don't believe there was ever a time we were the team with the biggest 'catchment area' outside of the top flight. I don't even really know what catchment area refers to!

[Fibonacci0112358]

Irrespective I don't believe there was ever a time we were the team with the biggest 'catchment area' outside of the top flight. I don't even really know what catchment area refers to!

This time I agree with you.

I rather see Darlington as the catchment area for Newcastle, Sunderland & Middlesbrough.

And Leeds, Man Utd, Liverpool, etc....

[fozzovmurton]

Irrespective I don't believe there was ever a time we were the team with the biggest 'catchment area' outside of the top flight. I don't even really know what catchment area refers to!

This time I agree with you.

I rather see Darlington as the catchment area for Newcastle, Sunderland & Middlesbrough.

And Leeds, Man Utd, Liverpool, etc....

I had read or heard it years ago, maybe I was wrong though, maybe I misread or misheard at the time, but I am sure I read or was told Darlingtons catchment area was massive, as there is no other football league clubs within something like a 10 mile radius of the town.

I apologise if I have got my facts wrong on that

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[Spyman]

I had read or heard it years ago, maybe I was wrong though, maybe I misread or misheard at the time, but I am sure I read or was told Darlingtons catchment area was massive, as there is no other football league clubs within something like a 10 mile radius of the town.

I apologise if I have got my facts wrong on that

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Did George Reynolds tell you that?

The South West has fuck all football clubs in a big chunk of land. Reading have been the most South-Westerly Premiership club for some time.

[lo36789]

The South West has fuck all football clubs in a big chunk of land. Reading have been the most South-Westerly Premiership club for some time.

I'll be honest first club that came to my head was Carlisle if catchment area is defined in terms of isolation!

[Hilly]

The South West has fuck all football clubs in a big chunk of land. Reading have been the most South-Westerly Premiership club for some time.

I'll be honest first club that came to my head was Carlisle if catchment area is defined in terms of isolation!

Mine would have been Hull.

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[fozzovmurton]

I had read or heard it years ago, maybe I was wrong though, maybe I misread or misheard at the time, but I am sure I read or was told Darlingtons catchment area was massive, as there is no other football league clubs within something like a 10 mile radius of the town.

I apologise if I have got my facts wrong on that

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Did George Reynolds tell you that?

The South West has fuck all football clubs in a big chunk of land. Reading have been the most South-Westerly Premiership club for some time.

I might be quite gullible, but I wouldn't believe anything that man says

[Paddock81]

Fair play like

[Fibonacci0112358]

Yes, congratulations to Bradford City.

[Dave_from_London]

Agreed, fair play to them. I recon the Swans will beat Chelsea tomorrow as well.

[Darlo.For.Life]

A victory for football.

[Darlo Till I Die]

Deffinatley going down to Wembley to watch this one!

[lo36789]

A victory for football.

Really?

It's a nice story and not something I ever thought I would see, still can't believe it and can't imagine what it would be like to be a Bradford fan right now.

But, when you actually look at it it's a league two side who for a number of years have been spending well beyond their means and I am not convinced that the buy out from the recent administration has changed this and suspect it's a very familiar spending money chasing promotion story.

I'm not convinced the Premier League sides they have beaten are the worst 'culprits' either they don't hit me as the teams living beyond means and feel like more genuine clubs than others. If it had been Chelsea, Man City or QPR they had overcome I may feel a little different!

Don't want to take too much away from Bradford because as I said it is an amazing thing to happen but feel that victory football is a little too cliché.

[Darlo.For.Life]

A victory for football.

Really?

It's a nice story and not something I ever thought I would see, still can't believe it and can't imagine what it would be like to be a Bradford fan right now.

But, when you actually look at it it's a league two side who for a number of years have been spending well beyond their means and I am not convinced that the buy out from the recent administration has changed this and suspect it's a very familiar spending money chasing promotion story.

I'm not convinced the Premier League sides they have beaten are the worst 'culprits' either they don't hit me as the teams living beyond means and feel like more genuine clubs than others. If it had been Chelsea, Man City or QPR they had overcome I may feel a little different!

Don't want to take too much away from Bradford because as I said it is an amazing thing to happen but feel that victory football is a little too cliché.

I understand what you mean but the whole concept of a league two team beating a premier league side which at the start of the competition, no one would ever of predicted.

[Quakers1883]

Brilliant to see them make it to the final! well done City

[Vokuhila]

A victory for football.

What's Chris Moore got to do with Bratfud?

[divas]

A victory for football.

Really?

It's a nice story and not something I ever thought I would see, still can't believe it and can't imagine what it would be like to be a Bradford fan right now.

But, when you actually look at it it's a league two side who for a number of years have been spending well beyond their means and I am not convinced that the buy out from the recent administration has changed this and suspect it's a very familiar spending money chasing promotion story.

I'm not convinced the Premier League sides they have beaten are the worst 'culprits' either they don't hit me as the teams living beyond means and feel like more genuine clubs than others. If it had been Chelsea, Man City or QPR they had overcome I may feel a little different!

Don't want to take too much away from Bradford because as I said it is an amazing thing to happen but feel that victory football is a little too cliché.

I understand what you mean but the whole concept of a league two team beating a premier league side which at the start of the competition, no one would ever of predicted.

A league two side beating a PL team is no biggie - it happens every season, however beating 3 AND getting to a Wembley final - wow! And to think they were beaten 4-1 by Crewe last season.

They do seem to have a very good side mind, plenty of players who have had experience of playing much higher up obviously helped them out

[walshys_wingman_11]

My first night match at Feethams was against Bradford in the mid 70s and it was in the league cup. Although they were probably other games, the only other game I can remember before that game was against Swansea....will be great to see those 2 meet in the final.

[Gow9900]

Remember we played them in the league cup second round in 2000 after we had beaten Championship Nottingham Forest in the first round. This was just after they went on their mad spending spree, buying Carbone, Petrescu, Hopkin and putting them all on £25,000 a week plus and committing millions to their stadium expansion plan that they didn't have the fans to fill every week. That mad three months of spending was what ultimately caused them to collapse financially and fall down to league 2.

Remember Dean Windass was playing that night for them as well, the Tin Shed was in fine form that night, he got absolutely hammered!

Went down to Valley Parade for the second leg, we got beat 7 - 2. Always remember us going mad when we scored our two for some reason.

[DarloOnTheUp]

Whoever wins between Swansea and Chelsea has essentially won the cup then. Good payday for Bradford though.

[Quakerz]

My first night match at Feethams was against Bradford in the mid 70s and it was in the league cup. Although they were probably other games, the only other game I can remember before that game was against Swansea....will be great to see those 2 meet in the final.

I remember being there when we beat Swansea 6-0.

[Breedon]

This is a monumental underdog story. When was the last time a fourth tier side reached a major cup final? Has it actually ever happened before? Great stuff.