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Re: Pools

Post by quakersfan » Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:19 pm

Getting out of the NL to L2 is the hard bit once in L2 I believe you get £1.5m/£2m from the league plus a substantial amount for an academy more than enough to compete in L2. Plus increased season tickets and more away fans and any off pitch corporate which Singh is looking to do so should all help to make the club profitable.

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OYD
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Re: Pools

Post by OYD » Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:57 pm

onewayup wrote:
Tue Jun 22, 2021 4:28 pm
OYD, don't get complacent your owner isn't know for longevity . I predict he will bale sooner rather than later.
Certainly not getting complacent. Although we haven't experienced anything negative yet from Raj we know, looking from the outside, what went on your place.
All we can do is make the most of what we've got at the moment, got to remember we might not be here if it wasn't for Raj stepping in when he did.

shildonlad
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Re: Pools

Post by shildonlad » Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:55 pm

Old Git wrote:
Tue Jun 22, 2021 12:11 pm
shildonlad wrote:
Tue Jun 22, 2021 12:00 pm
Old Git wrote:
Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:11 pm
It only took Raj about 6 months in 2011 to go from cup winner at Wembley to chucking his toys out of the pram. By that reckoning Poolie will be looking for a new owner by Christmas 😢
Theres a big difference financially Winning the fa trophy compared to promotion to league 2 not to mention the fact pools play in a stadium thats about the right size for there crowds
That’s rich coming from a Gateshead fan.
At least its not a millstone round there neck
I may not live in the north east anymore but i still support the north east teams

al_quaker
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Re: Pools

Post by al_quaker » Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:05 am

quakersfan wrote:
Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:19 pm
Getting out of the NL to L2 is the hard bit once in L2 I believe you get £1.5m/£2m from the league plus a substantial amount for an academy more than enough to compete in L2. Plus increased season tickets and more away fans and any off pitch corporate which Singh is looking to do so should all help to make the club profitable.
Most clubs in league 2 lose money, so it can't be that easy to turn a profit in League 2

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Re: Pools

Post by Wing Commander Darlo » Wed Jun 23, 2021 10:28 am

OYD wrote:
Tue Jun 22, 2021 3:01 pm
Wing Commander Darlo wrote:
Mon Jun 21, 2021 3:11 pm
OYD wrote:
Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:29 pm
Darlo_Pete wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 10:08 pm
AndyPark wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:35 pm
Fuck wishing them good luck.

Hope the get demolished in every single game they play and come straight back down.
Good to see Andy is talking sense. Hope they really struggle back in the FL. Just remember that we could still be in the same league as them in 2022/23, well we can all dream!!!
Here you go lads, just for you two ;)

https://i2-prod.gazettelive.co.uk/incom ... 645863.jpg
He's wondering how much he can get for it when he pawns it to support next year's playing budget. (And how much of that he can pocket when he cuts and runs.)

How was your day out at Wembley by the way? Oh... yeah sorry... you've still not been there have you? :D
You're right Mr. Wing, we've never been to Wembley.
But we've also never played league games at Newton Aycliffe, Penrith, Sunderland RCA etc. etc.
It's swings and roundabouts isn't it, I'm happy with where we are at the moment and I'm sure you're happy with your lot :thumbup:
"And we've also not YET played league games at Newton Aycliffe, Penrith, Sunderland RCA"

There. Fixed it for you.

You know he's going to leave. You also know he's going to leave you utterly skint, without assets and probably following us and Bury down the having to rebuild way down the pyramid route. He was the last desperate hope to stop you going pop last time. If you'd had any better options you would have taken them and there will not be anyone who wants to take on a club that lovely Raj sees as owing him money.

The clock is ticking. Give my regards to Jarrow Roofing.

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Re: Pools

Post by shildonlad » Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:18 pm

Wing Commander Darlo wrote:
Wed Jun 23, 2021 10:28 am
OYD wrote:
Tue Jun 22, 2021 3:01 pm
Wing Commander Darlo wrote:
Mon Jun 21, 2021 3:11 pm
OYD wrote:
Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:29 pm
Darlo_Pete wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 10:08 pm


Good to see Andy is talking sense. Hope they really struggle back in the FL. Just remember that we could still be in the same league as them in 2022/23, well we can all dream!!!
Here you go lads, just for you two ;)

https://i2-prod.gazettelive.co.uk/incom ... 645863.jpg
He's wondering how much he can get for it when he pawns it to support next year's playing budget. (And how much of that he can pocket when he cuts and runs.)

How was your day out at Wembley by the way? Oh... yeah sorry... you've still not been there have you? :D
You're right Mr. Wing, we've never been to Wembley.
But we've also never played league games at Newton Aycliffe, Penrith, Sunderland RCA etc. etc.
It's swings and roundabouts isn't it, I'm happy with where we are at the moment and I'm sure you're happy with your lot :thumbup:
"And we've also not YET played league games at Newton Aycliffe, Penrith, Sunderland RCA"

There. Fixed it for you.

You know he's going to leave. You also know he's going to leave you utterly skint, without assets and probably following us and Bury down the having to rebuild way down the pyramid route. He was the last desperate hope to stop you going pop last time. If you'd had any better options you would have taken them and there will not be anyone who wants to take on a club that lovely Raj sees as owing him money.

The clock is ticking. Give my regards to Jarrow Roofing.
Jarrow roofing dont exist anymore
I may not live in the north east anymore but i still support the north east teams

LoidLucan
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Re: Pools

Post by LoidLucan » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:45 pm

https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/sport/ ... re-3220331


"Indeed, the accounts state that Clarence 18 Ltd provided Pools with loans of £700,000 during the 2019/20 campaign. That was up from £676,565 during the previous season. As of July 2020, the club owed £2.25million to Clarence 18 Ltd."

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D_F_C
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Re: Pools

Post by D_F_C » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:50 pm

The only thing I’m interested in is their released list


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lo36789
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Re: Pools

Post by lo36789 » Wed Jun 23, 2021 5:16 pm

LoidLucan wrote:
Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:45 pm
https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/sport/ ... re-3220331


"Indeed, the accounts state that Clarence 18 Ltd provided Pools with loans of £700,000 during the 2019/20 campaign. That was up from £676,565 during the previous season. As of July 2020, the club owed £2.25million to Clarence 18 Ltd."
Expect they won't need the same level of input at EFL.

Solidarity payments are massive.

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Re: Pools

Post by onewayup » Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:21 pm

Of course they will need more funding in the EFL that's to upgrade and pay the players the price for league 2,
Everyone knows that it's around 2/2.5 million just to stand still in league 2, tight strings will only go so far ,I will not be surprised if he's gone before the season ends. He doesn't like losses.

al_quaker
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Re: Pools

Post by al_quaker » Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:59 pm

lo36789 wrote:
Wed Jun 23, 2021 5:16 pm
LoidLucan wrote:
Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:45 pm
https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/sport/ ... re-3220331


"Indeed, the accounts state that Clarence 18 Ltd provided Pools with loans of £700,000 during the 2019/20 campaign. That was up from £676,565 during the previous season. As of July 2020, the club owed £2.25million to Clarence 18 Ltd."
Expect they won't need the same level of input at EFL.

Solidarity payments are massive.
More than half of the clubs in the latest accounts made losses of more than 675k according to what I can find on Kieran Maguire's twitter feed. Solidarity payments presumably just get eaten up by increased costs, leaving nobody particularly better off

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Re: Pools

Post by Darlo_Pete » Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:45 am

You have to love predictive texts. I was working in poolie & my partner sent me a text asking how my day was going & I started to reply that I was in monkey & it automatically came up with hanger as a predicted word, haha.

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OYD
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Re: Pools

Post by OYD » Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:32 pm

Wing Commander Darlo wrote:
Wed Jun 23, 2021 10:28 am
OYD wrote:
Tue Jun 22, 2021 3:01 pm
Wing Commander Darlo wrote:
Mon Jun 21, 2021 3:11 pm
OYD wrote:
Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:29 pm
Darlo_Pete wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 10:08 pm


Good to see Andy is talking sense. Hope they really struggle back in the FL. Just remember that we could still be in the same league as them in 2022/23, well we can all dream!!!
Here you go lads, just for you two ;)

https://i2-prod.gazettelive.co.uk/incom ... 645863.jpg
He's wondering how much he can get for it when he pawns it to support next year's playing budget. (And how much of that he can pocket when he cuts and runs.)

How was your day out at Wembley by the way? Oh... yeah sorry... you've still not been there have you? :D
You're right Mr. Wing, we've never been to Wembley.
But we've also never played league games at Newton Aycliffe, Penrith, Sunderland RCA etc. etc.
It's swings and roundabouts isn't it, I'm happy with where we are at the moment and I'm sure you're happy with your lot :thumbup:
"And we've also not YET played league games at Newton Aycliffe, Penrith, Sunderland RCA"

There. Fixed it for you.

You know he's going to leave. You also know he's going to leave you utterly skint, without assets and probably following us and Bury down the having to rebuild way down the pyramid route. He was the last desperate hope to stop you going pop last time. If you'd had any better options you would have taken them and there will not be anyone who wants to take on a club that lovely Raj sees as owing him money.

The clock is ticking. Give my regards to Jarrow Roofing.
All your comments regarding past events are correct, especially the point about him being our last hope.
I know of a couple of Poolies who refuse to go to games while he is in charge.

I am also amazed at your vision of the future, how do you know that these things are going to happen? How do you know Jarrow Roofing will re-form?
Or is it really just a list of things you hope will happen?

But what if you're wrong

lo36789
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Re: Pools

Post by lo36789 » Fri Jun 25, 2021 5:23 am

al_quaker wrote:
Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:59 pm
lo36789 wrote:
Wed Jun 23, 2021 5:16 pm
LoidLucan wrote:
Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:45 pm
https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/sport/ ... re-3220331


"Indeed, the accounts state that Clarence 18 Ltd provided Pools with loans of £700,000 during the 2019/20 campaign. That was up from £676,565 during the previous season. As of July 2020, the club owed £2.25million to Clarence 18 Ltd."
Expect they won't need the same level of input at EFL.

Solidarity payments are massive.
More than half of the clubs in the latest accounts made losses of more than 675k according to what I can find on Kieran Maguire's twitter feed. Solidarity payments presumably just get eaten up by increased costs, leaving nobody particularly better off
Maybe. I thought there was some protection the league offer if you end up in admin as one of their members versus what the NL do.

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Re: Pools

Post by Wing Commander Darlo » Fri Jun 25, 2021 4:11 pm

OYD wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:32 pm
Wing Commander Darlo wrote:
Wed Jun 23, 2021 10:28 am
OYD wrote:
Tue Jun 22, 2021 3:01 pm
Wing Commander Darlo wrote:
Mon Jun 21, 2021 3:11 pm
OYD wrote:
Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:29 pm

Here you go lads, just for you two ;)

https://i2-prod.gazettelive.co.uk/incom ... 645863.jpg
He's wondering how much he can get for it when he pawns it to support next year's playing budget. (And how much of that he can pocket when he cuts and runs.)

How was your day out at Wembley by the way? Oh... yeah sorry... you've still not been there have you? :D
You're right Mr. Wing, we've never been to Wembley.
But we've also never played league games at Newton Aycliffe, Penrith, Sunderland RCA etc. etc.
It's swings and roundabouts isn't it, I'm happy with where we are at the moment and I'm sure you're happy with your lot :thumbup:
"And we've also not YET played league games at Newton Aycliffe, Penrith, Sunderland RCA"

There. Fixed it for you.

You know he's going to leave. You also know he's going to leave you utterly skint, without assets and probably following us and Bury down the having to rebuild way down the pyramid route. He was the last desperate hope to stop you going pop last time. If you'd had any better options you would have taken them and there will not be anyone who wants to take on a club that lovely Raj sees as owing him money.

The clock is ticking. Give my regards to Jarrow Roofing.
All your comments regarding past events are correct, especially the point about him being our last hope.
I know of a couple of Poolies who refuse to go to games while he is in charge.

I am also amazed at your vision of the future, how do you know that these things are going to happen? How do you know Jarrow Roofing will re-form?
Or is it really just a list of things you hope will happen?

But what if you're wrong
Apologies for not keeping up with the affairs of Jarrow Roofing.

And if I'm wrong you have my full permission to be all smug about it. If I'm right you'll be seeing a lot more non-league grounds. Let's see eh?

Henley
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Re: Pools

Post by Henley » Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:34 pm

It must be good being a Poolie at the moment being back in the Football League and a safe Tory seat 😀

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Re: Pools

Post by biccynana » Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:29 pm

Darlo_Pete wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:45 am
You have to love predictive texts. I was working in poolie & my partner sent me a text asking how my day was going & I started to reply that I was in monkey & it automatically came up with hanger as a predicted word, haha.
Pain in the aris if you find yourself working in Monkseaton, Monkwearmouth, or Monk Bretton though :D

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Re: Pools

Post by LoidLucan » Thu Jul 08, 2021 6:15 pm

Wonder how the hell they'll replace the 34 goals that Armstrong and Oates scored. Oates is getting a fierce slagging off from the fans for jumping ship in favour of the mighty Mansfield. The joy is quickly evaporating. With Raj tightening the purse strings, maybe they should have had a Boost the Budget.

shildonlad
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Re: Pools

Post by shildonlad » Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:32 pm

Mansfield have hardly been setting the world on fire recently and the town makes hartlepool look posh. Wonder if they are bankrolled
I may not live in the north east anymore but i still support the north east teams

dfcdfcdfc
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Re: Pools

Post by dfcdfcdfc » Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:06 pm

They are!

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Re: Pools

Post by jjljks » Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:00 am

dfcdfcdfc wrote:
Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:06 pm
They are!
By John Deere? a Stag gering amount?? :lol:

bga
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Re: Pools

Post by bga » Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:48 am

jjljks wrote:
Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:00 am
dfcdfcdfc wrote:
Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:06 pm
They are!
By John Deere? a Stag gering amount?? :lol:
I think they will just Stagnate this season.

jjljks
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Re: Pools

Post by jjljks » Fri Jul 09, 2021 1:36 pm

bga wrote:
Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:48 am
jjljks wrote:
Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:00 am
dfcdfcdfc wrote:
Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:06 pm
They are!
By John Deere? a Stag gering amount?? :lol:
I think they will just Stagnate this season.
:thumbup:

Old Git
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Re: Pools

Post by Old Git » Fri Jul 09, 2021 3:54 pm

LoidLucan wrote:
Thu Jul 08, 2021 6:15 pm
Wonder how the hell they'll replace the 34 goals that Armstrong and Oates scored. Oates is getting a fierce slagging off from the fans for jumping ship in favour of the mighty Mansfield. The joy is quickly evaporating. With Raj tightening the purse strings, maybe they should have had a Boost the Budget.
Would imagine not being able to secure the services of Oates and Armstrong is a big blow. Not as if they have gone to bigger clubs but just signed for other League 2 clubs so it looks like a financial decision on their part. As we know Raj can be tight with the purse strings and maybe he thinks they can maintain their progress without paying higher wages. Will watch with interest to see what happens.

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