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Hecky rules again.

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:09 pm
by EDJOHNS
I see our ex-player Hecky has just got a 4 and a half year contract to manage Shef Utd, and the locals are not a happy bunch to say the least.
I reckon he could just do a decent job, but if not, and even if he does, I question ANY club giving a manager a 4.5 year contract in this day and age.
Wonder what his pay off will be !!
Can only think the length of the deal has something to do with covering his contract with the clubs younger section.

Re: Hecky rules again.

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:24 pm
by theoriginalfatcat
It's a long time. What quite often happens after a sacking is the manager doesn't get a payoff but just keeps on drawing his salary. I have a friend who knows a current EFL manager and he told me last year that he was getting a wage from 3 different clubs :shock:

Re: Hecky rules again.

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 8:33 pm
by bga
theoriginalfatcat wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:24 pm
It's a long time. What quite often happens after a sacking is the manager doesn't get a payoff but just keeps on drawing his salary. I have a friend who knows a current EFL manager and he told me last year that he was getting a wage from 3 different clubs :shock:
I am sure in our murky past but I can't remember the time period we once had three managers salaries on our books. The then current Manager and 3 former Managers being paid off. Anyone remember this?

Re: Hecky rules again.

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:16 pm
by EDJOHNS
bga wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 8:33 pm
theoriginalfatcat wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:24 pm
It's a long time. What quite often happens after a sacking is the manager doesn't get a payoff but just keeps on drawing his salary. I have a friend who knows a current EFL manager and he told me last year that he was getting a wage from 3 different clubs :shock:
I am sure in our murky past but I can't remember the time period we once had three managers salaries on our books. The then current Manager and 3 former Managers being paid off. Anyone remember this?
Yep, but as with you, can't remember those concerned.
As I was writing Tommy Taylor came to mind for some reason ?????

Re: Hecky rules again.

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:23 pm
by shildonlad
Was a good player for darlington and seems like a canny bloke but you would think he would be given it as caretaker to see how he gets on, maybe even until the end of the season but 4.5 years, haway. Does the chairman owe him money and is looking to sell the club? Thats what happened at gateshead when deluded dave dickson got a 3 year contract despite there been no players! Anyway i really do hope paul does well, he never seems to bliddy age either

Re: Hecky rules again.

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:15 am
by EDJOHNS
shildonlad wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:23 pm
Was a good player for darlington and seems like a canny bloke but you would think he would be given it as caretaker to see how he gets on, maybe even until the end of the season but 4.5 years, haway. Does the chairman owe him money and is looking to sell the club? Thats what happened at gateshead when deluded dave dickson got a 3 year contract despite there been no players! Anyway i really do hope paul does well, he never seems to bliddy age either
He was caretaker at the end of last season for a while and has coached there in I think 3 different time spans.
Apparently the club wants to bring on the youngsters to sell on. Hecky knows the kids well so should have the knowledge in that area.
The point of the length of the contract was what hit me most/ I find that very shocking when you look at how long the normal manager lasts at any club.

Re: Hecky rules again.

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 9:37 am
by bga
EDJOHNS wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:16 pm
bga wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 8:33 pm
theoriginalfatcat wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:24 pm
It's a long time. What quite often happens after a sacking is the manager doesn't get a payoff but just keeps on drawing his salary. I have a friend who knows a current EFL manager and he told me last year that he was getting a wage from 3 different clubs :shock:
I am sure in our murky past but I can't remember the time period we once had three managers salaries on our books. The then current Manager and 3 former Managers being paid off. Anyone remember this?
Yep, but as with you, can't remember those concerned.
As I was writing Tommy Taylor came to mind for some reason ?????
I meant "2 former managers" in my post. Ed yes I think it was around the Tommy Taylor era.

Re: Hecky rules again.

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:13 am
by Wiseacre
I think Paul Futcher might have been one of the others but he can't have been at Feethams that long. Was Paul Ward involved as well ? We must have been a popular club to manage then - early 90's ?

Re: Hecky rules again.

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 12:49 pm
by loan_star
I would have a guess at Billy McEwan, Alan Murray and Paul Futcher all being paid after being sacked.
More recently would be Colin Todd, Steve Staunton and Mark Cooper possibly?

Re: Hecky rules again.

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 1:04 pm
by bga
loan_star wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 12:49 pm
I would have a guess at Billy McEwan, Alan Murray and Paul Futcher all being paid after being sacked.
More recentl y would be Colin Todd, Steve Staunton and Mark Cooper possibly?
I think your first guess is correct as I recall it was while we were at Feethams.

Re: Hecky rules again.

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:27 pm
by EDJOHNS
bga wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 1:04 pm
loan_star wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 12:49 pm
I would have a guess at Billy McEwan, Alan Murray and Paul Futcher all being paid after being sacked.
More recentl y would be Colin Todd, Steve Staunton and Mark Cooper possibly?
I think your first guess is correct as I recall it was while we were at Feethams.
Don't mention McEwan to any of the players of his era unless you like to upset people.
Smudger in particular goes bonkers any time he is mentioned.

Re: Hecky rules again.

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 6:58 pm
by shildonlad
EDJOHNS wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:27 pm
bga wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 1:04 pm
loan_star wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 12:49 pm
I would have a guess at Billy McEwan, Alan Murray and Paul Futcher all being paid after being sacked.
More recentl y would be Colin Todd, Steve Staunton and Mark Cooper possibly?
I think your first guess is correct as I recall it was while we were at Feethams.
Don't mention McEwan to any of the players of his era unless you like to upset people.
Smudger in particular goes bonkers any time he is mentioned.
I knew lee ellsion to speak to during his time at shildon and that mcewan made lees life a missery and knocked his confidence, not a well liked bloke at all

Re: Hecky rules again.

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:42 am
by Comfortably_numb
EDJOHNS wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:09 pm
I see our ex-player Hecky has just got a 4 and a half year contract to manage Shef Utd, and the locals are not a happy bunch to say the least.
I reckon he could just do a decent job, but if not, and even if he does, I question ANY club giving a manager a 4.5 year contract in this day and age.
Wonder what his pay off will be !!
Can only think the length of the deal has something to do with covering his contract with the clubs younger section.
can depend on the content of the contract - could include all manner of clauses to cover early termination (to protect the club) - through to large compensation (to benefit the club). Could include performance related pay etc etc

won his first game like.

Re: Hecky rules again.

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:37 am
by jjljks
Quit while you are ahead, Hecky!😅